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OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW).
QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? Also, during the contests I sometimes hear cw going so fast all that is heard is "thumping", there is no tone whatsoever being transmitted. Do I have something set wrong or are some radios prone to transmit like this? These are not close in stations (579 or so) so it shouldn't be overload and backing off the rf gain doesn't make it any different. Thanks, de Jim KG0KP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The thumping could either be you've got the NB on too heavy a setting, or you have someone just outside of your filter skirts. IE, you have 100Hz set and some one really strong is out around 150 or even 200hz to your side. That tends to cause the type of "thumping" sound you're talking about. As for the send and receiving of CW at those speeeds. Yes, you CAN do it with a good keyer.. and Yes, you do decode it with your brain... Keep in mind, if you can only copy 15 wpm, 25wpm sounds like 100wpm.. if you can do 45wpm, 55 or 60wpm starts sounding fast to you.. So, it's all realitive to your speed that you can already go. Keep up your code and you'll get there soon enough... well, okay 45 is good enough...Hi hi.. 73 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:54:57 -0500 > Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ > > OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW). > > QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? > > Also, during the contests I sometimes hear cw going so fast all that is heard is "thumping", there is no tone whatsoever being transmitted. Do I have something set wrong or are some radios prone to transmit like this? These are not close in stations (579 or so) so it shouldn't be overload and backing off the rf gain doesn't make it any different. > > Thanks, de Jim KG0KP > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Jim,
The "thumping" you hear during contests could be due to overload, especially so if you have the IF noise blanker turned on. The common problem with typical IF noise blankers is that they are hit by *all* of the signals large and small that get through the wide bandpass filters. If the sum total of all of these signals is large in amplitude, then the NB could be overloaded. Backing off the "RF" gain won't help because it changes the gain of the IF after the NB and roofing filter, not the gain before the NB. To change the gain before the K3's NB you have to change the preamp and attenuator settings. NBs that do not suffer from this problem blank the LO, but that's another subject. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Jim Miller KG0KP wrote on Wednesday, June 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM: > OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding > CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my > extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself > to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining > on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW). > > QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC > or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code > being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even > up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? > > Also, during the contests I sometimes hear cw going so fast all that is > heard is "thumping", there is no tone whatsoever being transmitted. Do I > have something set wrong or are some radios prone to transmit like this? > These are not close in stations (579 or so) so it shouldn't be overload > and backing off the rf gain doesn't make it any different. > > Thanks, de Jim KG0KP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I often hear newcomers (to CW) say "I'll never get to 50 wpm". If I have
a keyer handy I will send a single CQ at 50 wpm and ask them "What was that"? If they have been around CW very long at all they will recognize the CQ even at 50 wpm. I explain to them that as they progress they will start recognizing letters instead of dots and dashes. Later they will begin to recognize words and so on. The secret is to keep at it. The Chuck Adams CW course is the best that I have seen for building speed. 72/73, Jim - W4BQP On 6/16/2010 3:03 PM, The Smiths wrote: > > > The thumping could either be you've got the NB on too heavy a setting, or you have someone just outside of your filter skirts. IE, you have 100Hz set and some one really strong is out around 150 or even 200hz to your side. That tends to cause the type of "thumping" sound you're talking about. > As for the send and receiving of CW at those speeeds. Yes, you CAN do it with a good keyer.. and Yes, you do decode it with your brain... Keep in mind, if you can only copy 15 wpm, 25wpm sounds like 100wpm.. if you can do 45wpm, 55 or 60wpm starts sounding fast to you.. So, it's all realitive to your speed that you can already go. Keep up your code and you'll get there soon enough... well, okay 45 is good enough...Hi hi.. 73 > > > > >> From: [hidden email] >> To: [hidden email] >> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:54:57 -0500 >> Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ >> >> OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW). >> >> QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? >> >> Also, during the contests I sometimes hear cw going so fast all that is heard is "thumping", there is no tone whatsoever being transmitted. Do I have something set wrong or are some radios prone to transmit like this? These are not close in stations (579 or so) so it shouldn't be overload and backing off the rf gain doesn't make it any different. >> >> Thanks, de Jim KG0KP >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Jim,
If you'd like to get your code speed up, I highly recommend "The Art & Skill of Radio-Telegraphy" ... it can be found in html at http://www.zerobeat.net/tasrt/contents.htm . A downloadable pdf is available, but it's not nearly so easy to navigate. I'm trying to get my code speed up too, and it's very helpful. I also use CwType <http://dxsoft.com/> (paste any text in the window and hear it at whatever speed you want). The Art&Skill book has "common words" you can copy and paste directly into CwType, which really helps with the practice. At http://www.k0ru.net/fog/highspeed.html , you'll find a few words of advice from a chap who's running at speed. Cheers, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 Jim Miller KG0KP wrote: > OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW). > > QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? > > <snip> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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