QSK options inquiry
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I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing DX. The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 and K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an option. The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way to integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine from the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also considered the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps.
I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can apprise me of where that has gone. Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I realize some do not. 73, Jim W9VNE Cincinnati, Ohio ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on full
QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes quality. For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's hard to beat. Very quiet, too. /Rick On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it > daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy > the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing DX. > The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from > the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 and > K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an option. > The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way to > integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller > Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine from > the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also considered > the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps. > > I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can > apprise me of where that has gone. > > Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I > realize some do not. > > 73, Jim W9VNE > Cincinnati, Ohio > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search.
Sure looks nice. Doug -- K0DXV Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: > Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on full > QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the > 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes quality. > For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's > hard to beat. Very quiet, too. > > /Rick > > On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it >> daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I enjoy >> the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing DX. >> The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input from >> the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 and >> K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an option. >> The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a way to >> integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the smaller >> Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine from >> the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also considered >> the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps. >> >> I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can >> apprise me of where that has gone. >> >> Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I >> realize some do not. >> >> 73, Jim W9VNE >> Cincinnati, Ohio >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/acom.htm
Doug Person wrote: > Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search. > Sure looks nice. > > Doug -- K0DXV > > Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: >> Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on full >> QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the >> 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes quality. >> For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's >> hard to beat. Very quiet, too. >> >> /Rick >> ____________________________________________________________ Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Doug,
Check the Array Solutions website ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I recall sometime ago enquiring of Ron Stone GW3YDX at Vine (UK Acom sales) and being told that the 1010 doesn't have vacuum relays and to go with the 1000 if I was serious about QSK.
I did just that and fully support what Rick says below about the 1000..... Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF
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Doug
Same problem here finding out anything about sales in North America. All I get is a photo of the Acom 1010 and nothing else. A few years ago they were being sold by a company in Boston then K6ND now it appears their sales in NA are in limbo. That type of instability scares me. I am sure we will get some needed feedback on my comments. That is why I am blunt with my comments. Need answers based upon facts not guess work. Jim W9VNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Person" <[hidden email]> To: "Rick Tavan N6XI" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Jim Danehy" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry > Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search. > Sure looks nice. > > Doug -- K0DXV > > Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: >> Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on >> full >> QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the >> 1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes >> quality. >> For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's >> hard to beat. Very quiet, too. >> >> /Rick >> >> On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it >>> daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I >>> enjoy >>> the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing >>> DX. >>> The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input >>> from >>> the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 >>> and >>> K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an >>> option. >>> The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a >>> way to >>> integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the >>> smaller >>> Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine >>> from >>> the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also >>> considered >>> the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps. >>> >>> I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can >>> apprise me of where that has gone. >>> >>> Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I >>> realize some do not. >>> >>> 73, Jim W9VNE >>> Cincinnati, Ohio >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Doug,
Here's what I've gleaned on the 1010 The 1010 is a different beastie from the 1000. It isn't just a 1000 without 6M. 1) takes more drive for full output. 2) full output at least a few hundred watts less. (I also believe the transformer is not has hefty) 3) an electronicly controlled bias circuit 4) The RF deck is different, it doesn't have the extra shielding the 1000 has. This is both a plus (if you change tubes) and a potential negative. It is a good amp for countries with an enforced 400 W power limit. Unfortunately I can't comment on the amp key circuit or QSK. 73 de Brian/K3KO Jim Danehy wrote: > Doug > > Same problem here finding out anything about sales in North America. All I > get is a photo of the Acom 1010 and nothing else. A few years ago they were > being sold by a company in Boston then K6ND now it appears their sales in NA > are in limbo. That type of instability scares me. I am sure we will get some > needed feedback on my comments. That is why I am blunt with my comments. > Need answers based upon facts not guess work. > > Jim W9VNE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Person" <[hidden email]> > To: "Rick Tavan N6XI" <[hidden email]> > Cc: "Jim Danehy" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" > <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSK options inquiry > > > >>Who sells the Acom 1010? Can't find any dealers with a google search. >>Sure looks nice. >> >>Doug -- K0DXV >> >>Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: >> >>>Dunno about the 1010 but the ACOM 1000 works beautifully with my K3 on >>>full >>>QSK. I think but am not sure that the 1010 is just a recent update of the >>>1000. At any rate, I can't imagine them regressing. The 1000 exudes >>>quality. >>>For a manually tuned, not-quite-full power amp with a warmup cycle, it's >>>hard to beat. Very quiet, too. >>> >>>/Rick >>> >>>On 8/11/09, Jim Danehy <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I ordered a K3 last week. I built my K2 about 8 years ago and operate it >>>>daily. I also have a Ten Tec Omni 6+ and a Hercules II amplifier. I >>>>enjoy >>>>the Ten Tec transceiver and amplifier when used in contests and chasing >>>>DX. >>>>The purpose of this email is to solicit (direct and reflector) input >>>>from >>>>the Elecraft community about a new amplifier that I can use with the K2 >>>>and >>>>K3. I also see that Array Solutions has a QSK box which might be an >>>>option. >>>>The QSK box from Array Solutions (they call it QSK Master) would be a >>>>way to >>>>integrate my Elecraft rigs with my Henry amplifier as well as the >>>>smaller >>>>Hercules II. I have thought about the Acom 1010 but I can not determine >>>>from >>>>the Internet whether that amplifier really has QSK. I have also >>>>considered >>>>the smaller 600 to 700 watt Tokyo Hy-power amps. >>>> >>>>I have not followed the saga of the Elecraft amps so maybe somebody can >>>>apprise me of where that has gone. >>>> >>>>Your advice and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I love QSK. I >>>>realize some do not. >>>> >>>>73, Jim W9VNE >>>> Cincinnati, Ohio >>>>______________________________________________________________ >>>>Elecraft mailing list >>>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>> >>>______________________________________________________________ >>>Elecraft mailing list >>>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.52/2298 - Release Date: 08/12/09 06:09:00 > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.52/2298 - Release Date: 08/12/09 06:09:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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ARRL has reviewed the Acom 1000, 1010 and 2000. See QST or the ARRL
website. The answer to all this discussion is found in this pair of sentences from the 1010 review in December, 2006: "So what does the 1010 give up in exchange for its svelte packaging and lower price? The short answer is about 300W output, full break-in CW (QSK) and 6 meter coverage." QST is your friend... 73, Lyle KK7P ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Then it would be a, wait for it now.....
Little Shack of Horrors???? :p Dave Wilburn NM4M Lyle Johnson wrote: > ARRL has reviewed the Acom 1000, 1010 and 2000. See QST or the ARRL > website. > > The answer to all this discussion is found in this pair of sentences > from the 1010 review in December, 2006: > > "So what does the 1010 give up in exchange for its svelte packaging and > lower price? The short answer is about 300W output, full break-in CW > (QSK) and 6 meter coverage." > > QST is your friend... > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have the Acom 1000 and use it with the K3/100 (#250)...full QSK, no
problems at all with keying,(up to 44wpm) etc. I got it in 2004. I have made over 15000 Qs with many of these Qs during contest operations, phone, cw and rtty. I do crank it back to 500w out when running rtty so as to run a little cooler. If you like computer controlled amps, this is a remarkable little amp, very quiet and puts out about 600w or so. It is NOT a 1000w amp...the specs on the tube the 4CX800 say plate dissipation is 800w...plug in typical efficiency and that will put it down around 600wto 680w....My LP-100 shows 800w peak and my Bird shows around 600-650w (key dwn) output into Steppir 3 ele yagi. Not sure that anyone could tell the difference over the air if power was 1000w or 600w. Not sure about the marketing of the amp now...did Array Solutions or DX Eng pick up the line in the US? A recent email to K6ND (US rep) garnered a response from a technician in LZ land. All in all, I like the amp and would recommend one to someone in the US or EU. 73 Tom CX7TT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 16:50 -0300, [hidden email] wrote:
> I have the Acom 1000 ...snip... > this is > a remarkable little amp, very quiet and puts out about 600w or so. It is > NOT a 1000w amp...the specs on the tube the 4CX800 say plate dissipation > is 800w...plug in typical efficiency and that will put it down around > 600wto 680w....My LP-100 shows 800w peak and my Bird shows around > 600-650w (key dwn) output into Steppir 3 ele yagi. I have run my Acom1000 at a measured 1kw out on 6m for JT6M, this is a high duty mode (100% keydown, 1 minute on & 1 minute off) which is, I am sure pretty hard on tube life but no issues so far where the tube is concerned. I have had this amp since late 2001 so it's an early model. The ACOM 1k runs hot but well within it's rated temp ratings @1Kw high duty cycle. Keep the dust filter at the back well cleaned and ensure that the exhaust vent is free. I measured a little over 1100 watts into a Dummy load on most bands. My measurement is based on a Dummy load and an LP-100 calibrated against a Rohde & Schwarz power sensor borrowed from work the power meter on the acom 1k can be a little optimistic, reading around 1300W for 1050W into the dummy load ;-) if you are only getting ~ 600W out of your Acom 1k you may want to check that the transformer taps are set correctly for your line voltage and that your shack supply is not 'sagging' too much on keydown 73 Brendan EI6IZ -- 73 Brendan EI6IZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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