Query, KPA500 Remote Opns
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Hello,
This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch between OPERATE and STANDBY? With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the Elecraft front panel? Thanks much, Jack ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Yes. Use the Elecraft KPA500 remote software
http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm#k3remote You can run it client/server if you have a PC on the remote end or use a serial or USB server. Ken K6MR From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 10:50 To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns Hello, This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch between OPERATE and STANDBY? With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the Elecraft front panel? Thanks much, Jack ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Query, KPA500 Remote Opns
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This will require some knowledge of vpn and/or port forwarding to handle remotely.
The new flex remote software does not use VPN and dynamically configures UPNP enabled routers, thus there will be a bit of additional tweaking and knowledge needed to accomplish this. ~Chris N6WM ________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] on behalf of Ken K6MR [[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:06 AM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns Yes. Use the Elecraft KPA500 remote software http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm#k3remote You can run it client/server if you have a PC on the remote end or use a serial or USB server. Ken K6MR From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 10:50 To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns Hello, This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch between OPERATE and STANDBY? With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the Elecraft front panel? Thanks much, Jack ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Jack
I do use my 6300 with the KPA500 and have done so for over 2 years. The way I do it is with a local pc at the remote. The other way for you would be to install a serial to ip converted at your remote and then run the KPA500 software at home. In the configuration of the Serial To IP converter this will work. The RemoteQTH Server has most of this built in as well and then you can expand to control more items. Mike va3mw On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:49 PM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello, > This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. > Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch > between OPERATE and STANDBY? > > With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex > radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there > ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate > over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. > > Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a > way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr > remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the > Elecraft front panel? > > Thanks much, > Jack > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Query, KPA500 Remote Opns
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As far as the SWR piece, I have found pairing a W2 wattmeter particularly useful with this configuration, that can also be set up in a client/server configuration when paired with a pc on the remote end.
________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] on behalf of Chris Tate - N6WM [[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:48 AM To: Ken K6MR; [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns This will require some knowledge of vpn and/or port forwarding to handle remotely. The new flex remote software does not use VPN and dynamically configures UPNP enabled routers, thus there will be a bit of additional tweaking and knowledge needed to accomplish this. ~Chris N6WM ________________________________________ From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] on behalf of Ken K6MR [[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:06 AM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns Yes. Use the Elecraft KPA500 remote software http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm#k3remote You can run it client/server if you have a PC on the remote end or use a serial or USB server. Ken K6MR From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 10:50 To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns Hello, This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch between OPERATE and STANDBY? With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the Elecraft front panel? Thanks much, Jack ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jack:
The way I manage my KPA500 remotely is via a Remote Rig RC-1216H which provides a web-based interface to manage the KPA500. See: http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=636 <http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=636> Ham Radio Outlet carries this product. See: http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-013985 <http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-013985> The price has gone up since I purchased mine (I have two-the other remotely interfaces with my Green Heron azimuth controller) The web page looks like the front panel of the KPA500, allowing you to do everything remotely that you can do at the amplifier, including seeing what power output and SWR is being measured by the amplifier. You can turn on/off the amp, place in Standby/Operate, set band switches, etc. I’ve found this approach to be very effective and relatively easy to setup. The advantage of this approach are several: 1. Manage your amp from your current location with any device that has a web browser (iPad, iPhone, Mac, PC, Android device etc.). No need for a PC in the shack itself to manage the amplifier using Elecraft KPA500 software. My preference is to avoid running PCs in the shack when I’m not there because PCs do hang up and consume power. If something goes wrong, it could be months before I’m back at the shack. I’ve been unsuccessful in getting “Wake on LAN” to work. Thus, I manage my station without the necessity of having a PC running in the shack. Using Maestro along with a smartphone/tablet is a nice way to manage everything. If you’re using SmartSDR 2.0 for iOS, you can manage both the Flex and the KPA500 on the same device. 2. The amp can still be interfaced with the Elecraft K3 (if you have one) for auto band switching and communication through the KPA500’s ACC port while using the RS232 port for remote access. 3. Independent verification of KPA500 status. You will probably need to setup Port Forwarding for the RC-1216H, manually specifying a Local IP address for the RC-1216H on your local network and then defining a TCP Port (other than Port 80, the default for web browser connections) to make it specific for that device. You’ll then need to setup DDNS so that you can access the LAN from the outside network. Depending upon the router you use, you may have that ability built into the router. Once configured, all you need to do is specify on your browser your ham shack WAN address (using either the DDNS address or the actual IP assignment for your location) followed by a colon and the TCP Port for the RC-1216H (e.g. hamshack.dyndns.org:90 <http://hamshack.dyndns.org:90/>) Keep in mind that the 1216H interfaces to the KPA500 through the RS-232 port. If you intend to connect to the KPA500 through RS-232 to other devices (such as a PC), you’ll have to either 1) reconnect manually the RS232 cable to the appropriate connection), or provide a means for passing RS232 between the KPA500 and more than one device, such as via software on a PC In my case, I use the KPA500 RS232 port just for RC-1216H. If I need to access a PC for KPA500 firmware upgrades for example, I use a temporary cable connection. I use the KPA500 with the K3 series so I can’t speak to specific setup/operation with the Flex-6xxx series. I have a Flex but since I’m not physically at the ham shack, have yet to download/setup SmartLink under v2.0 and the new firmware. I hope to do that next weekend when I’m back at the shack in SE Georgia. For the past three years I’ve operated remotely using my Elecraft K3/KPA500/KAT500 using the K3/0-Mini, so I’ll be interested to see how well the Flex WAN capability functions when the ham shack has relatively slow internet (at best 1.2 Mbps upload, 20 Mbps download). Hope this helps, Barry, WD4ASW (Currently in Columbia, SC) > On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:49 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > > Hello, > This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. > Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch > between OPERATE and STANDBY? > > With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex > radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there > ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate > over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. > > Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a > way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr > remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the > Elecraft front panel? > > Thanks much, > Jack > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The bottom line is that you have to have some form of PC/device at the
amplifier to get the status data to your location. It must contain a serial (via USB acceptable) port to communicate with the KPA500. You can use an older computer (or you could add a Raspberry Pi 3 for cheap, WiFi connect), running Win7+ or linux then the KPA500 utility program (remote or not; some careful port forwarding on your router). That can be done for under $100US if you don't get carried away in packaging the device. If you have a power outage, the computer/device should be set to reboot upon power available. Likewise, a means of remotely rebooting it is very useful (Murphy lives). An option (what I do) is to run the entire station (K3, KAT500, KPA500, later a rotator) on a PC, then run that PC remotely. Since I run HRD, whatever tools I choose (rig control, logging for examples) are remotely available (logging being location accurate since I'm 'operating' from that station). I add the KPA/KAT utilities and I have access to all aspects of the station, at the station console or remotely. [Eventually it will all be run on battery, including the network, so a power outage means less problems.] I use TeamViewer (available on many platforms) to run the station PC remotely. That may involve a means to determine the current control device IP (Dynamic DNS), but since I also run an IRLP node, that issue is resolved since that is a feature of IRLP (I use the node address FQDN). In my configuration, I can 'see' the freq/mode (HRD), power output, SWR, voltage, temps etc on the KAP500, verify the power/SWR/antenna choice on the KAT500; all via HRD and the KPA/KAT utilities. For audio, I use Skype (via a SignaLink which I also use for some digital modes) with the bonus that if I have enough local (where I am) bandwidth, I can enable the web cam to see the P3, front panel(s) or whatever I choose (before I leave). Your Flexware should be similar, just add a device for your other components of the station. Since the K line was designed so well, no one knows is I'm home or away. Well done Elecraft. I use PTT remotely, not VOX, so the only caveat is if there is borderline bandwidth, I must be super careful to not let the transmitter be locked up. For that I tend to use HRD macros for digital modes (with an end transmission command at the end of each message) or K3 memories (CW). If I lose a connection mid phone transmission,the transmitter will be active but (almost) nothing would be sent (no audio); then I simply reconnect (TeamViewer only, nothing else, minimize the limited bandwidth) to disable the transmitter until I have better bandwidth. Even a marginal 3G cell signal has been enough from BFE to control the station. It sounds complex; it isn't. Manage your (entire) station from a local computer; run that computer remotely. In the case of your Flex, use the Flexware for remote radio, a device to control non-Flex items and software to use that device remotely. I've used an Android device, iPhone, iPad or another computer to manage the station remotely; it's great fun. 73, Rick wa6nhc/7 North ID On 7/28/2017 12:03 PM, Barry Baines wrote: > Jack: > > The way I manage my KPA500 remotely is via a Remote Rig RC-1216H which provides a web-based interface to manage the KPA500. > > S... > Barry, WD4ASW > (Currently in Columbia, SC) > > > >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:49 PM, [hidden email] wrote: >> >> Hello, >> This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. >> Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch >> between OPERATE and STANDBY? >> >> With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex >> radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there >> ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate >> over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. >> >> Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a >> way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr >> remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the >> Elecraft front panel? >> >> Thanks much, >> Jack >> _______ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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There are multiple ways to do this, some more complicated than others.
One way is to run the KPA500 Control/Display program on a local PC and then log into it with a remote control package such as Teamviewer. And, that's only one of many. 73, Fred ("Skip") K6DGW Sparks NV USA Washoe County DM09dn On 7/28/2017 10:49 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Hello, > This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. > Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch > between OPERATE and STANDBY? > > With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex > radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there > ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate > over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. > > Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a > way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr > remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the > Elecraft front panel? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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KPA500 Remote does not require a VPN. In Client/Server mode, you run an
instance on a computer near the KPA500 and tell it "Start Hosting Remote." It connects to the KPA500 via a COM port or USB-Serial connection. You connect to it from an instance running at the control site and tell it to "Connect to Remote." Easy peasy, no VPN. I think you can also run a single instance of KPA500 Remote at the control site through a remote serial port connection, again without a VPN, but I've not tried it. FYI, KAT500 Remote operates identically to control the ATU remotely. Both Kxx500 Remote applications provide a very readable, full front panel experience. 73, /Rick On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Chris Tate - N6WM <[hidden email]> wrote: > This will require some knowledge of vpn and/or port forwarding to handle > remotely. > > The new flex remote software does not use VPN and dynamically configures > UPNP enabled routers, thus there will be a bit of additional tweaking and > knowledge needed to accomplish this. > > ~Chris > N6WM > ________________________________________ > From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] > on behalf of Ken K6MR [[hidden email]] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:06 AM > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns > > Yes. Use the Elecraft KPA500 remote software > > http://www.elecraft.com/k2_remote.htm#k3remote > > You can run it client/server if you have a PC on the remote end or use a > serial or USB server. > > Ken K6MR > > From: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 10:50 > To: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Query, KPA500 Remote Opns > > Hello, > This is my 2nd attempt to get this into the digest. > Is there a way to remotely cause the KPA500 to switch > between OPERATE and STANDBY? > > With the new Flex 2.0 Software, the entire flex > radio can be operated over IP. Ultimately, there > ought to be a way to allow the KPA500 to switch Standby/Operate > over IP in tandem with the Flex SDR 2.0 software. > > Next question, and this may be too hard to do. Is there a > way for a remote operator to ascertain the KPA500's SWR/Pwr > remotely over IP, so I won't have to beam an IP camera to the > Elecraft front panel? > > Thanks much, > Jack > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- Rick Tavan Truckee, CA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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