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RE: Elecraft Amplifiers

W2AGN-2
I always had mixed (mainly negative) feelings about the idea of a big Elecraft
Amp. Elecraft started, and got it's loyal user base among QRPers. OK, so they
have a couple 100 watt rigs now, still not as far off as a 1500 watt amp.

Sorta like if Hummer came out with a Hybrid.....

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Re: RE: Elecraft Amplifiers

w6jd
I have a problem with the Elecraft amps, i.e. hi-power amps have become commodity items.
I don't see that there can be any meaningful competition on the basis of price so you have to compete
with whiz-bang features. I've seen the amps, and they certainly look nice, but I don't see many, if any, features that aren't available elsewhere. Built-in tuner, PIN diode QSK, automatic band switching etc.
but nothing really "whiz-bang". I just hope that Elecraft won't get themselves in trouble with a product that will soak up a lot of resources and provide little return.

IMHO I would like to see a "full kit" amp on the order of the Ameritron ALS-600. A nice "medium power " amp with full QSK and a built in power supply. I think this could have a rather large market.
Basically a scaled down version of the 850 Elecraft amp.

Doug, W6JD
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K3/100 eagerly awaited


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> I always had mixed (mainly negative) feelings about the idea of a big Elecraft
> Amp. Elecraft started, and got it's loyal user base among QRPers. OK, so they
> have a couple 100 watt rigs now, still not as far off as a 1500 watt amp.
>
> Sorta like if Hummer came out with a Hybrid.....
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Re: RE: Elecraft Amplifiers

Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
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> IMHO I would like to see a "full kit" amp on the order of the
> Ameritron ALS-600. A nice "medium power " amp with full QSK and a
> built in power supply. I think this could have a rather large market.

Agreed! About 600-750W out, built-in PS, with 6M COVERAGE (low end of band
only, 50.0-50.5) at full power output to go with the K3's 6M capabilities. I
think you'd have a sure-fire winner. I would buy one if I had to mortgage my
mother's house.  ;-)

Bill / W5WVO



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Re: RE: Elecraft Amplifiers

Chris G3SJJ
Bill and Doug, you NEED the KPA800 then!!  
http://www.n6ie.com/Elecraft.html

I am not sure if it covers 6m but looking at the toroids I suspect so.
Not a "full" kit presumably because of the SMD components and the
associated situation as with the K3.  I don't understand the argument
about Elecraft not marketing amps. The Company has the expertise and the
customer base with hundreds if not thousands of 100w amps being used.
These are very similar to the modules that would be in the KPA 800/1600
units. There was big interest at Dayton last year and I see these as
fulfilling several growing markets sectors. Firstly the users like
yourselves, secondly the guys who want a US legal limit amp and finally
like myself and others who want 2 amps for an SO2R or multi-op station.

Chris G3SJJ


Bill W5WVO wrote:

> [hidden email] wrote:
>> IMHO I would like to see a "full kit" amp on the order of the
>> Ameritron ALS-600. A nice "medium power " amp with full QSK and a
>> built in power supply. I think this could have a rather large market.
>
> Agreed! About 600-750W out, built-in PS, with 6M COVERAGE (low end of
> band only, 50.0-50.5) at full power output to go with the K3's 6M
> capabilities. I think you'd have a sure-fire winner. I would buy one
> if I had to mortgage my mother's house.  ;-)
>
> Bill / W5WVO
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Re: RE: Elecraft Amplifiers

N2EY
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> I don't understand the argument
> about Elecraft not marketing amps. T

It's simply a matter of available resources, IMHO. It's clear to me that
Elecraft made the decision to delay the release of the amplifiers until after the
release of the K3, because they don't have the resources to do both and
provide adequate support for the entire Elecraft product line all at once.

IOW, rather than release everything at once and reduce their standards of
customer service, they put K3 ahead of KPAxxx. Since they will probably sell more
K3s than KPAs, this makes perfect sense.

More than one company supplying the amateur market has gone belly-up because
they had great products but lacked a good marketing plan. Elecraft isn't
repeating that history.

Just my impression from a continent away.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: RE: Elecraft Amplifiers

Chris G3SJJ
No, I wasn't meaning that, Jim. I agree with your comments and I think
K3 then amps is a good marketing decision.As you say K3 volume should be
in excess of amps but also K3 owners will be more amenable to go for the
amps than K2 owners I suspect.

What I don't agree with are recent postings on the Reflector where users
are saying that Elecraft shouldn't market amps because it is a QRP kit
supplier.

I used follow business programs in the UK where initially Sir John
Harvey-Jones and then Sir Gerry Robinson went in to companies to look
and advice them on how to turn the business around if they were in
trouble or how to expand. I am sure both would have held Elecraft in
high esteem but would have disagreed with the idea of staying a QRP kit
supplier.

73 Chris G3SJJ



[hidden email] wrote:

> In a message dated 5/27/07 6:21:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>> I don't understand the argument
>> about Elecraft not marketing amps. T
>
>
> It's simply a matter of available resources, IMHO. It's clear to me
> that Elecraft made the decision to delay the release of the amplifiers
> until after the release of the K3, because they don't have the
> resources to do both and provide adequate support for the entire
> Elecraft product line all at once.
>
> IOW, rather than release everything at once and reduce their standards
> of customer service, they put K3 ahead of KPAxxx. Since they will
> probably sell more K3s than KPAs, this makes perfect sense.
>
> More than one company supplying the amateur market has gone belly-up
> because they had great products but lacked a good marketing plan.
> Elecraft isn't repeating that history.
>
> Just my impression from a continent away.
>
> 73 de Jim, N2EY
>
>
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