I always had mixed (mainly negative) feelings about the idea of a big Elecraft
Amp. Elecraft started, and got it's loyal user base among QRPers. OK, so they have a couple 100 watt rigs now, still not as far off as a 1500 watt amp. Sorta like if Hummer came out with a Hybrid..... -- --- _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn check out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QRPariahs/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
I have a problem with the Elecraft amps, i.e. hi-power amps have become commodity items.
I don't see that there can be any meaningful competition on the basis of price so you have to compete with whiz-bang features. I've seen the amps, and they certainly look nice, but I don't see many, if any, features that aren't available elsewhere. Built-in tuner, PIN diode QSK, automatic band switching etc. but nothing really "whiz-bang". I just hope that Elecraft won't get themselves in trouble with a product that will soak up a lot of resources and provide little return. IMHO I would like to see a "full kit" amp on the order of the Ameritron ALS-600. A nice "medium power " amp with full QSK and a built in power supply. I think this could have a rather large market. Basically a scaled down version of the 850 Elecraft amp. Doug, W6JD K2/100 #1626 K3/100 eagerly awaited -------------- Original message -------------- From: W2AGN <[hidden email]> > I always had mixed (mainly negative) feelings about the idea of a big Elecraft > Amp. Elecraft started, and got it's loyal user base among QRPers. OK, so they > have a couple 100 watt rigs now, still not as far off as a 1500 watt amp. > > Sorta like if Hummer came out with a Hybrid..... > > -- > --- > _ _ _ _ _ > / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke > ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net > \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ http://www.blurty.com/users/w2agn > check out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/QRPariahs/ > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> IMHO I would like to see a "full kit" amp on the order of the > Ameritron ALS-600. A nice "medium power " amp with full QSK and a > built in power supply. I think this could have a rather large market. Agreed! About 600-750W out, built-in PS, with 6M COVERAGE (low end of band only, 50.0-50.5) at full power output to go with the K3's 6M capabilities. I think you'd have a sure-fire winner. I would buy one if I had to mortgage my mother's house. ;-) Bill / W5WVO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Bill and Doug, you NEED the KPA800 then!!
http://www.n6ie.com/Elecraft.html I am not sure if it covers 6m but looking at the toroids I suspect so. Not a "full" kit presumably because of the SMD components and the associated situation as with the K3. I don't understand the argument about Elecraft not marketing amps. The Company has the expertise and the customer base with hundreds if not thousands of 100w amps being used. These are very similar to the modules that would be in the KPA 800/1600 units. There was big interest at Dayton last year and I see these as fulfilling several growing markets sectors. Firstly the users like yourselves, secondly the guys who want a US legal limit amp and finally like myself and others who want 2 amps for an SO2R or multi-op station. Chris G3SJJ Bill W5WVO wrote: > [hidden email] wrote: >> IMHO I would like to see a "full kit" amp on the order of the >> Ameritron ALS-600. A nice "medium power " amp with full QSK and a >> built in power supply. I think this could have a rather large market. > > Agreed! About 600-750W out, built-in PS, with 6M COVERAGE (low end of > band only, 50.0-50.5) at full power output to go with the K3's 6M > capabilities. I think you'd have a sure-fire winner. I would buy one > if I had to mortgage my mother's house. ;-) > > Bill / W5WVO > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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[hidden email] writes: > I don't understand the argument > about Elecraft not marketing amps. T It's simply a matter of available resources, IMHO. It's clear to me that Elecraft made the decision to delay the release of the amplifiers until after the release of the K3, because they don't have the resources to do both and provide adequate support for the entire Elecraft product line all at once. IOW, rather than release everything at once and reduce their standards of customer service, they put K3 ahead of KPAxxx. Since they will probably sell more K3s than KPAs, this makes perfect sense. More than one company supplying the amateur market has gone belly-up because they had great products but lacked a good marketing plan. Elecraft isn't repeating that history. Just my impression from a continent away. 73 de Jim, N2EY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
No, I wasn't meaning that, Jim. I agree with your comments and I think
K3 then amps is a good marketing decision.As you say K3 volume should be in excess of amps but also K3 owners will be more amenable to go for the amps than K2 owners I suspect. What I don't agree with are recent postings on the Reflector where users are saying that Elecraft shouldn't market amps because it is a QRP kit supplier. I used follow business programs in the UK where initially Sir John Harvey-Jones and then Sir Gerry Robinson went in to companies to look and advice them on how to turn the business around if they were in trouble or how to expand. I am sure both would have held Elecraft in high esteem but would have disagreed with the idea of staying a QRP kit supplier. 73 Chris G3SJJ [hidden email] wrote: > In a message dated 5/27/07 6:21:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > >> I don't understand the argument >> about Elecraft not marketing amps. T > > > It's simply a matter of available resources, IMHO. It's clear to me > that Elecraft made the decision to delay the release of the amplifiers > until after the release of the K3, because they don't have the > resources to do both and provide adequate support for the entire > Elecraft product line all at once. > > IOW, rather than release everything at once and reduce their standards > of customer service, they put K3 ahead of KPAxxx. Since they will > probably sell more K3s than KPAs, this makes perfect sense. > > More than one company supplying the amateur market has gone belly-up > because they had great products but lacked a good marketing plan. > Elecraft isn't repeating that history. > > Just my impression from a continent away. > > 73 de Jim, N2EY > > > ************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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