RE: Good morse key?
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Hey Justin (& the group)
If you're interested in a straight key, I have a couple of recommendations http://skccgroup.com - The Straight Key Century Club. A great bunch of straight key (and bug) users. Great place to be if you are doing slow manual CW. www.MorseX.com - Morse Express. Marshall sells a number of keys and is a great guy to deal with. You'll need to figure out which sending style you will use. American doesn't work with all keys, European (for me) works with every key I try. I send European style. For practice, I put my K2 in test mode and send away. Sidetone sounds but the rig won't transmit. Straight Keys: - Navy Flameproof 26003A. Get 'em used on e-bay for $30 to $70. Get a NOS model straight from Bunnel for about $95 http://jhbunnell.com/navykey.shtml. - German Junker. Get NOS models from Morse Express. Cost about $100. My absolute top pick for straight keys. Ugly, functions wonderfully. I drilled & tapped the knob mounting hole and put a navy knob on mine. Hog heaven. - Kent. Costs about $150 from AES or HRO (don't recall which). You can also order directly from Kent http://www.kent-engineers.com/ and get the kit model. Available with wooden or metal base. Wood base is noisy, like a wood block. - J38. Another WWII vintage key. Lots of guys love 'em. Cost on e-bay seem to be in the $30 to $50 range. I've never used one so I can't say much. - Begali. I hear good things, but haven't used one. http://www.i2rtf.com/ - Vibroplex. I hear mostly mediocre things. Probably a nice $100 key selling for $175. - Bencher. Most Bencher straight key owners end up with something else. Bencher seems to be the one that people don't stick with. Either the upgrade or they quit using the straight key. Morse Express has a good price on them. - LTA. Available from Morse Express. I've owned an LTA Marconi key and it was quite good. Very pretty key, functions as well as the Flameproof and nearly as well as the Kent or Junker. - GHD. Expensive but I hear good things. Not to many using the, probably due to price. - Swedish pumper. I hear great things. On my short list of keys to try. - Hi Mound. I hear great things about their Swedish model and little about the others. - Amplidan. Wonderful, I missed my chance to buy a NOS key for $350. They're all gone now. Good luck finding one. Good luck finding one that is affordable. I'll stick with the Junker for $100. Enough for now. I probably have you and the whole list in information overload. 73! - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - -----Original Message----- From: Justin Croonenberghs I've been off this list for a good long while...quick question. Any picks for a good starting morse key? I've played around with the paddles and maybe want to start with a straight key... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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What is the difference between English and American style?
- David Wilburn [hidden email] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 07:09 -0700, Darwin, Keith wrote: > Hey Justin (& the group) > > If you're interested in a straight key, I have a couple of > recommendations > > http://skccgroup.com - The Straight Key Century Club. A great bunch of > straight key (and bug) users. Great place to be if you are doing slow > manual CW. > > www.MorseX.com - Morse Express. Marshall sells a number of keys and is > a great guy to deal with. > > You'll need to figure out which sending style you will use. American > doesn't work with all keys, European (for me) works with every key I > try. I send European style. > > For practice, I put my K2 in test mode and send away. Sidetone sounds > but the rig won't transmit. > > Straight Keys: > > - Navy Flameproof 26003A. Get 'em used on e-bay for $30 to $70. Get a > NOS model straight from Bunnel for about $95 > http://jhbunnell.com/navykey.shtml. > > - German Junker. Get NOS models from Morse Express. Cost about $100. > My absolute top pick for straight keys. Ugly, functions wonderfully. I > drilled & tapped the knob mounting hole and put a navy knob on mine. > Hog heaven. > > - Kent. Costs about $150 from AES or HRO (don't recall which). You can > also order directly from Kent http://www.kent-engineers.com/ and get the > kit model. Available with wooden or metal base. Wood base is noisy, > like a wood block. > > - J38. Another WWII vintage key. Lots of guys love 'em. Cost on e-bay > seem to be in the $30 to $50 range. I've never used one so I can't say > much. > > - Begali. I hear good things, but haven't used one. > http://www.i2rtf.com/ > > - Vibroplex. I hear mostly mediocre things. Probably a nice $100 key > selling for $175. > > - Bencher. Most Bencher straight key owners end up with something else. > Bencher seems to be the one that people don't stick with. Either the > upgrade or they quit using the straight key. Morse Express has a good > price on them. > > - LTA. Available from Morse Express. I've owned an LTA Marconi key and > it was quite good. Very pretty key, functions as well as the Flameproof > and nearly as well as the Kent or Junker. > > - GHD. Expensive but I hear good things. Not to many using the, > probably due to price. > > - Swedish pumper. I hear great things. On my short list of keys to > try. > > - Hi Mound. I hear great things about their Swedish model and little > about the others. > > - Amplidan. Wonderful, I missed my chance to buy a NOS key for $350. > They're all gone now. Good luck finding one. Good luck finding one > that is affordable. I'll stick with the Junker for $100. > > > Enough for now. I probably have you and the whole list in information > overload. > > 73! > > - Keith N1AS - > - K2 5411.ssb.100 - > - K3 Wave 3 - > > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Croonenberghs > > I've been off this list for a good long while...quick question. Any > picks for a good starting morse key? I've played around with the paddles > and maybe want to start with a straight key... > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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American style is done with the forearm on the desk and sending is done
by rocking the hand up & down, pivoting at the wrist. Some (myself included) will use a modified American style where the elbow is on the desk but the forearm is held above the desk a bit and sending is done by flexing the hand / wrist and moving the forearm up and down. With American sending, you usually want a key with a knob close to the desk and the key is set back from the front edge to make room for your arm. European sending starts with the key at the front edge of the desk. Your upper arm hangs at your side, elbow close to your rig cage. The forearm is parallel to the floor and is unsupported. Sending is done by moving various parts of your whole arm in a rocking / bouncing fashion. Keys for this style often have large mushroom knobs which are high off the desk. >From a key perspective, European senders can use any key since knob height doesn't really matter much. American senders are pretty dependant on having a knob close to the desk and struggle with mushroom knobs. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - -----Original Message----- What is the difference between English and American style? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Darwin, Keith wrote:
> American style is done with the forearm on the desk and sending is done > by rocking the hand up & down, pivoting at the wrist. > > European sending starts with the key at the front edge of the desk. > Your upper arm hangs at your side, elbow close to your rig cage. I believe it was G.B Shaw who once said: "England and America are two countries separated by a common language." So, we can now add to that, "and by morse sending technique?" 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Darwin, Keith
On Nov 14, 2007 9:09 AM, Darwin, Keith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> - Begali. I hear good things, but haven't used one. > http://www.i2rtf.com/ Thanks for the advice! The list concensus seems to be around Bengali keys, so I'll definately check them out. Also thanks to those I replied to; I forget to use "reply to all" to include the reflector in my replys. Oh well, live and learn... -- Justin "C++12" Croonenberghs No more Geek Code... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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