RE: "Mic for K3" (was #309 first issues)
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RE: "Mic for K3" (was #309 first issues)
 
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On Tue 12 Feb 2008 22:42:18 EST Joe Stofko (W1AIU) wrote ...
-Front mic socket not compatible with any other mfg. that I can find. Actually, it is!.. and it is well documented.. the front panel mic connector conforms to the Kenwood pin-out. I am using a Kenwood MC-60 on my K3 (#269) with no modifications and no problems. -- As Don has already stated the Kenwood standard wants power (+5V ~ +8V) on pin-5, whereas the K3 Elecraft standard has FUNC on pin-5 and what Elecraft calls "bias" on pin-6. See < http://elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.1.jpg > for the K3 pin-out and < http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/kwood.jpg > for the Kenwood pin-out. If this < http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/kwoodcompat.pdf > partial Kenwood microphone compatibility table is correct, one can rule out plug- compatible interoperability of many Kenwood mics with the K3, based solely on the fact that they have an Electret element. From the available information, it appears that your MC-60 and just two other Kenwood mics (the MC-42 and MC-43) are the only 8-pin round connector models that will work with the K3 without some sort of adaptor to swap pins 5 and 6. My conclusions are based on available information. There may be addi- tional Kenwood mics that will simply plug in and work properly with the K3. 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 S/N TBD P.S. I don't see this issue as a good reason to sell the K3! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
RE: "Mic for K3" (was #309 first issues)
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Hi Gary...
Right you are... I stand corrected ! The MC60 does play well with the K3... I've also used my Behringer B1 to a Behringer UB802 mixer and then to the line input on the rear panel. BTW - It took a bit of fiddling to get the TX audio shaped the way I wanted it. It is still lacking at the low end... but it is extremely clean... no compression/processor pumping, etc. I like a "fuller" sound for rag-chewing... but out of the box the K3 TX audio is perfect for contesting and DX chasing... Give a listen to the gang on Ducie Island, VP6DX... The K3's sound great. 73, Joe - W1AIU -----Original Message----- From: Gary Hvizdak [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:34 AM To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: RE: "Mic for K3" (was #309 first issues) On Tue 12 Feb 2008 22:42:18 EST Joe Stofko (W1AIU) wrote ... -Front mic socket not compatible with any other mfg. that I can find. Actually, it is!.. and it is well documented.. the front panel mic connector conforms to the Kenwood pin-out. I am using a Kenwood MC-60 on my K3 (#269) with no modifications and no problems. -- As Don has already stated the Kenwood standard wants power (+5V ~ +8V) on pin-5, whereas the K3 Elecraft standard has FUNC on pin-5 and what Elecraft calls "bias" on pin-6. See < http://elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.1.jpg > for the K3 pin-out and < http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/kwood.jpg > for the Kenwood pin-out. If this < http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/kwoodcompat.pdf > partial Kenwood microphone compatibility table is correct, one can rule out plug- compatible interoperability of many Kenwood mics with the K3, based solely on the fact that they have an Electret element. From the available information, it appears that your MC-60 and just two other Kenwood mics (the MC-42 and MC-43) are the only 8-pin round connector models that will work with the K3 without some sort of adaptor to swap pins 5 and 6. My conclusions are based on available information. There may be addi- tional Kenwood mics that will simply plug in and work properly with the K3. 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 S/N TBD P.S. I don't see this issue as a good reason to sell the K3! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Gary Hvizdak
Hi Joe,
I had a QSO with VP6DX last night on 17m and the K3s sounde great. I can't wait to get mine. 73, Mike, N4GW awaiting my K3 -------------- Original message from "Joe Stofko" <[hidden email]>: -------------- > Hi Gary... > > Right you are... I stand corrected ! The MC60 > does play well with the K3... I've also used my > Behringer B1 to a Behringer UB802 mixer and then to > the line input on the rear panel. BTW - It took a bit > of fiddling to get the TX audio shaped the way I wanted > it. It is still lacking at the low end... but it is > extremely clean... no compression/processor pumping, etc. > I like a "fuller" sound for rag-chewing... but out of > the box the K3 TX audio is perfect for contesting and > DX chasing... Give a listen to the gang on Ducie Island, > VP6DX... The K3's sound great. > > 73, > Joe - W1AIU > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Hvizdak [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:34 AM > To: [hidden email] > Cc: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: RE: "Mic for K3" (was #309 first issues) > > On Tue 12 Feb 2008 22:42:18 EST Joe Stofko (W1AIU) wrote ... > > -Front mic socket not compatible with any other mfg. that I can find. > > Actually, it is!.. and it is well documented.. the front panel mic connector > conforms to the Kenwood pin-out. I am using a Kenwood MC-60 on my K3 (#269) > with no modifications and no problems. > > -- > > As Don has already stated the Kenwood standard wants power (+5V ~ +8V) > on pin-5, whereas the K3 Elecraft standard has FUNC on pin-5 and what > Elecraft calls "bias" on pin-6. > > See < http://elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.1.jpg > for the K3 pin-out and > < http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/kwood.jpg > for the Kenwood pin-out. > > If this < http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/kwoodcompat.pdf > partial > Kenwood microphone compatibility table is correct, one can rule out plug- > compatible interoperability of many Kenwood mics with the K3, based solely > on the fact that they have an Electret element. > > From the available information, it appears that your MC-60 and just two > other Kenwood mics (the MC-42 and MC-43) are the only 8-pin round connector > models that will work with the K3 without some sort of adaptor to swap pins > 5 and 6. > > My conclusions are based on available information. There may be addi- > tional Kenwood mics that will simply plug in and work properly with the K3. > > 73, > Gary KI4GGX > K3 S/N TBD > > P.S. I don't see this issue as a good reason to sell the K3! > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Gary Hvizdak
If you built the kit, you might not have mounted the front panel properly and fully seated the mic connector. Go to http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Kit_Building and read the tips under "Front Panel and DSP". Check what is described about seating the mic connector.
73, Barry N1EU
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