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RF build up

David A. Belsley
Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen RF from an antenna?  It
is now so thick on my wire that the new RF can no longer get through.  
Typically the antenna stays pretty clear where there is a current max,
but I've been changing qrg so much, only the feed point looks okay,
even running the K2/100 qro.  I envy you chaps down south and on the
left coast who don't have to put up with this problem.

best wishes,

dave belsley, w1euy

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Re: RF build up

Thom LaCosta
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, David A. Belsley wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen RF from an antenna?

Considering the season, you might want to find some eggnog and see if it
helps the RF escape.  Even if it doesn't, if you drink enough, you may no longer
be aware of/plagued by the frozen RF.

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Re: RF build up

David-470
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now this is why you want an air dielectric on your coax that way you can
hook a heat gun and blow hot air up to the frozen rf and thaw it out.
you could also try cognac after a few you won't care about the frozen rf

another thing is to get a couple dozen young hams together give them each a
mirror 2"X2" than have them reflect the suns light on the antenna with
enough mirrors you will be able to warm that frozen rf right out off the
antenna and make it as good as new.( of course to much heat will destroy
it.)




> Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen RF from an antenna?  It
> is now so thick on my wire that the new RF can no longer get through.
> Typically the antenna stays pretty clear where there is a current max,
> but I've been changing qrg so much, only the feed point looks okay,
> even running the K2/100 qro.  I envy you chaps down south and on the
> left coast who don't have to put up with this problem.
>
> best wishes,
>
> dave belsley, w1euy
>

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Re: RF build up

Able2fly
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I know what you mean Dave. I have wrap my feedline around the pot belly  
stove to keep it from happening.
 
Bill  K3UJ

=========================

Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen  RF from an antenna?  It
is now so thick on my wire that the new RF can  no longer get through.  
Typically the antenna stays pretty clear where  there is a current max,
but I've been changing qrg so much, only the feed  point looks okay,
even running the K2/100 qro.  I envy you chaps down  south and on the
left coast who don't have to put up with this  problem.

best wishes,

dave belsley, w1euy


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RE: RF build up

N2TK
In reply to this post by David-470
That's what my Acom amp is for. Don't usually need it. The K2/100 by itself
typically keeps the frost RF off the antennas. I relabeled the ON switch to
RF Heater on my amp. Had to use it last night. Temp dropped to 4 degrees and
had snow. It was sluggish trying to get my CW speed up.  After the RF Heater
warmed up CW was flowing fine.
Happy Holidays.
N2TK, Tony



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Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:37 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector; David A. Belsley
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF build up

now this is why you want an air dielectric on your coax that way you can
hook a heat gun and blow hot air up to the frozen rf and thaw it out.
you could also try cognac after a few you won't care about the frozen rf

another thing is to get a couple dozen young hams together give them each a
mirror 2"X2" than have them reflect the suns light on the antenna with
enough mirrors you will be able to warm that frozen rf right out off the
antenna and make it as good as new.( of course to much heat will destroy
it.)




> Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen RF from an antenna?  It
> is now so thick on my wire that the new RF can no longer get through.
> Typically the antenna stays pretty clear where there is a current max,
> but I've been changing qrg so much, only the feed point looks okay,
> even running the K2/100 qro.  I envy you chaps down south and on the
> left coast who don't have to put up with this problem.
>
> best wishes,
>
> dave belsley, w1euy
>

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Re: RF build up

Tom Mc
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It's my understanding (from reading another list which is addressing this
problem) that some of the RF will, in fact radiate, but that it slows down
the speed of the signal.  For example, one guy reports sending 27 WPM from
his K2 but by the time it gets through the frozen RF build-up on his
antenna, it was only 18 WPM.

With this in mind, it might be a good time for me to go for the ARRL high
speed endorsements on my code copying certificate.

Just a thought...

Happy Holidays

Tom, WB2QDG
K2 #1103
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From: Thom R. Lacosta <[hidden email]>
To: David A. Belsley <[hidden email]>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF build up


On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, David A. Belsley wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen RF from an antenna?

Considering the season, you might want to find some eggnog and see if it
helps the RF escape.  Even if it doesn't, if you drink enough, you may no
longer
be aware of/plagued by the frozen RF.

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Re: RF build up

R March
It's a little known aspect of special relativity which was in fact predicted
by Einstein's equations.  That coupled with the Heisenberg Uncertainty
Principle implies that as you approach a certin limiting speed in CW,  the
actual transmission speed will slow down and one will no longer be able to
distinguish dots from dashes.
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> It's my understanding (from reading another list which is addressing this
> problem) that some of the RF will, in fact radiate, but that it slows down
> the speed of the signal.  For example, one guy reports sending 27 WPM from
> his K2 but by the time it gets through the frozen RF build-up on his
> antenna, it was only 18 WPM.
>
> With this in mind, it might be a good time for me to go for the ARRL high
> speed endorsements on my code copying certificate.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> Happy Holidays
>
> Tom, WB2QDG
> K2 #1103
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thom R. Lacosta <[hidden email]>
> To: David A. Belsley <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
> Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF build up
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, David A. Belsley wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a good way to remove frozen RF from an antenna?
>
> Considering the season, you might want to find some eggnog and see if it
> helps the RF escape.  Even if it doesn't, if you drink enough, you may no
> longer
> be aware of/plagued by the frozen RF.
>
> 73,Thom-k3hrn
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RF Falling from the Aether (was RF build up)

Kevin Rock
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During the 40 meter Elecraft Net last Sunday the RF was falling short of
my antenna.  Later that evening I discovered windrows of it scattered East
of my antenna.  I raked it up and brought it in to sit next to the
woodstove over night.  I now have a pail full of what appears to be
alphabet soup.  Trouble is the connections between the letters has been
broken so I just have the individual letters and not the words nor
sentences.  I may just have to paste all of this in my log until Spring
when it may make a bit more sense.  I do wish the call signs at least
would have stuck together and then I could acknowledge their reception
albeit in quite a strange manner.  Maybe Santa will bring us all RF
heaters for our stations.
    Season's greetings to you all,
       Kevin.  KD5ONS
       K2 #2511


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