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py5eg
Hi Folks:
Somebody could explain how to operate RTTY via computer with the K3 using MixW2?
Thanks in advance
Oms PY5EG
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py5eg

Hi folks
If some of the users of the K3 has experience on RTTY I kindly ask a step by step instruction.
I normaly use the MixW2 on my MarkV.
Best regards
Oms PY5EG


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Hi Folks:
Somebody could explain how to operate RTTY via computer with the K3 using MixW2?
Thanks in advance
Oms PY5EG
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RE: RTTY ON K3 - PY5EG

Ed Muns, W0YK
Oms, I feel bad about not answering your request since I've extensively used
a pair of K3s in RTTY contesting.  However, I've never seen or used MixW, so
I have no experience in what the specific setup steps might be.  The first
question is whether MixW runs AFSK or FSK transmission and what your desire
is.  Then, other questions follow.

I know of at least one other K3 user on this list who uses MixW, so
hopefully he will speak up.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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>
> Hi folks
> If some of the users of the K3 has experience on RTTY I
> kindly ask a step by step instruction.
> I normaly use the MixW2 on my MarkV.
> Best regards
> Oms PY5EG
>
>
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> [mailto:[hidden email]]Em nome de py5eg
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 28 de abril de 2008 16:03
> Para: [hidden email]
> Assunto: [Elecraft] RTTY ON K3 - PY5EG
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> Hi Folks:
> Somebody could explain how to operate RTTY via computer with
> the K3 using MixW2?
> Thanks in advance
> Oms PY5EG

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RE: RTTY ON K3 - PY5EG

Julian, G4ILO
Ed Muns, W0YK wrote
Oms, I feel bad about not answering your request since I've extensively used
a pair of K3s in RTTY contesting.  However, I've never seen or used MixW, so
I have no experience in what the specific setup steps might be.  The first
question is whether MixW runs AFSK or FSK transmission and what your desire
is.  Then, other questions follow.

I know of at least one other K3 user on this list who uses MixW, so
hopefully he will speak up.
I used to use MixW when I used Windows, but balked at the request for a "step-by-step" setup. As far as I can see, setting up MixW with the K3 should be no harder than with any other radio. You just need the serial cable for CAT, which you already have for firmware uploads, and a pair of audio cables between line in and headphone out and the corresponding sockets on the back of the K3. Despite the suggestion in another thread that a 10:1 attenuator is needed for the TX audio drive from the PC, I haven't needed one.

The K3 should be placed in DATA A mode. In other words, AFSK will be used. MixW does not support the K3 (unless this has been added in the latest version) so you would have to select K2 (NB this appears under Kenwood!.) There may be an issue with the frequency display, as I seem to recall the K2 is not consistent with the Kenwood radios (which MixW's Elecraft support is based on) in the sidebands it uses in data mode, and I don't know if the K3 is consistent with the K2 either, but if you notice a problem try telling the software the K3 is a TS-2000.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222 KX3 #110
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py5eg
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Thanks Julian for the comprehensive report.
I will try to do the same think here.
Best 73
Oms

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Ed Muns, W0YK wrote:

>
> Oms, I feel bad about not answering your request since I've extensively
> used
> a pair of K3s in RTTY contesting.  However, I've never seen or used MixW,
> so
> I have no experience in what the specific setup steps might be.  The first
> question is whether MixW runs AFSK or FSK transmission and what your
> desire
> is.  Then, other questions follow.
>
> I know of at least one other K3 user on this list who uses MixW, so
> hopefully he will speak up.
>
>
I used to use MixW when I used Windows, but balked at the request for a
"step-by-step" setup. As far as I can see, setting up MixW with the K3
should be no harder than with any other radio. You just need the serial
cable for CAT, which you already have for firmware uploads, and a pair of
audio cables between line in and headphone out and the corresponding sockets
on the back of the K3. Despite the suggestion in another thread that a 10:1
attenuator is needed for the TX audio drive from the PC, I haven't needed
one.

The K3 should be placed in DATA A mode. In other words, AFSK will be used.
MixW does not support the K3 (unless this has been added in the latest
version) so you would have to select K2 (NB this appears under Kenwood!.)
There may be an issue with the frequency display, as I seem to recall the K2
is not consistent with the Kenwood radios (which MixW's Elecraft support is
based on) in the sidebands it uses in data mode, and I don't know if the K3
is consistent with the K2 either, but if you notice a problem try telling
the software the K3 is a TS-2000.

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Hi Ed:
Thanks for the tips and also for putting me in contact with Julian.
What kind of setup you have used for the RTTY contesting?
Regards
Oms PY5EG

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Oms, I feel bad about not answering your request since I've extensively used
a pair of K3s in RTTY contesting.  However, I've never seen or used MixW, so
I have no experience in what the specific setup steps might be.  The first
question is whether MixW runs AFSK or FSK transmission and what your desire
is.  Then, other questions follow.

I know of at least one other K3 user on this list who uses MixW, so
hopefully he will speak up.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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> Subject: RES: [Elecraft] RTTY ON K3 - PY5EG
>
>
> Hi folks
> If some of the users of the K3 has experience on RTTY I
> kindly ask a step by step instruction.
> I normaly use the MixW2 on my MarkV.
> Best regards
> Oms PY5EG
>
>
> -----Mensagem original-----
> De: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]Em nome de py5eg
> Enviada em: segunda-feira, 28 de abril de 2008 16:03
> Para: [hidden email]
> Assunto: [Elecraft] RTTY ON K3 - PY5EG
>
>
> Hi Folks:
> Somebody could explain how to operate RTTY via computer with
> the K3 using MixW2?
> Thanks in advance
> Oms PY5EG

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Ed Muns, W0YK
> What kind of setup you have used for the RTTY contesting?

I only use FSK TX, not AFSK, and decode in parallel with a DXP38 and MMTTY
(sometimes multiple windows with different decoding profiles).  For SO2R
control I use the Top Ten DX Doubler.  No USB anywhere, all standard Serial
ports.  With the K3 I no longer use an external audio DSP box like the
NIR-12, nor do I use any additional audio isolation transformers since they
are built into the K3.  Currently I use WriteLog for RTTY contest logging
and will eventually migrate to Win-Test when enough of the SO2R features I
use are implemented (for both CW and RTTY modes).  I use TR-Log for CW (and
SSB) contesting so the USB SO2R/keyer interfaces aren't useable (MicroHam,
EZ-Master, etc.).  Once I migrate from TR-Log to Win-Test, I may upgrade to
one of these nifty USB interface boxes.  (Before someone asks, no I don't
consider TR4W an acceptable substitute for TR-Log.)

For PSK31 I use Digi-Pan which works great with the K3, just two standard
audio cables between the K3 and PC soundcard.

I use 400 MHz Pentium II towers at home and 1 GHz notebooks when away.  Just
standard run-of-the-mill sound cards built into these computers.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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py5eg
Hi Ed:
Thanks for all very clear information.
I´ll make some tests and will let you know about it.
73 and thanks again
Oms PY5EG

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> What kind of setup you have used for the RTTY contesting?

I only use FSK TX, not AFSK, and decode in parallel with a DXP38 and MMTTY
(sometimes multiple windows with different decoding profiles).  For SO2R
control I use the Top Ten DX Doubler.  No USB anywhere, all standard Serial
ports.  With the K3 I no longer use an external audio DSP box like the
NIR-12, nor do I use any additional audio isolation transformers since they
are built into the K3.  Currently I use WriteLog for RTTY contest logging
and will eventually migrate to Win-Test when enough of the SO2R features I
use are implemented (for both CW and RTTY modes).  I use TR-Log for CW (and
SSB) contesting so the USB SO2R/keyer interfaces aren't useable (MicroHam,
EZ-Master, etc.).  Once I migrate from TR-Log to Win-Test, I may upgrade to
one of these nifty USB interface boxes.  (Before someone asks, no I don't
consider TR4W an acceptable substitute for TR-Log.)

For PSK31 I use Digi-Pan which works great with the K3, just two standard
audio cables between the K3 and PC soundcard.

I use 400 MHz Pentium II towers at home and 1 GHz notebooks when away.  Just
standard run-of-the-mill sound cards built into these computers.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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