RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility

[K5LAD]

I'd seen comments about the inability of uploading the K3
firmware through the P3's RS-232 connection and I knew that the
instructions, until the P3 firmware is updated, was to turn off the
P3 while loading the K3.

I had not seen any comments about a problem using the K3 Utility
program to run the Terminal program on RTTY but I discovered
that in order to use the RTTY terminal section, and probably the
CW and PSK31 decode feature too, was to turn off the P3.  Once
it's off, the Terminal program comes back to life.

I'm looking forward to a P3 firmware update when it becomes
more transparent to the information flowing to and from the K3
through the P3.

Also I'll put in another plug for updating the K3 Utility program so
it can share a virtual serial port through LP-Bridge (for the
Terminal) while the K3 can continue to talk to the computer for the
Logger32 logging program.

Thanks for everything and 73,
Jim - K5LAD



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[Dick Dievendorff]

The K3 Utility currenly uses the text-to-terminal capability of the K3 for
its terminal program.  Currently the P3 doesn't forward this information to
the PC host. I've started an effort to exploit a new K3 MCU command, TB,
designed for programs like this. It's going to be a few weeks more because
of a vacation, but an update that provides terminal support concurrently
with P3 operation is planned.

It will be a K3 Utility update rather than a P3 update.

Dick, K6KR


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I'd seen comments about the inability of uploading the K3
firmware through the P3's RS-232 connection and I knew that the
instructions, until the P3 firmware is updated, was to turn off the
P3 while loading the K3.

I had not seen any comments about a problem using the K3 Utility
program to run the Terminal program on RTTY but I discovered
that in order to use the RTTY terminal section, and probably the
CW and PSK31 decode feature too, was to turn off the P3.  Once
it's off, the Terminal program comes back to life.

I'm looking forward to a P3 firmware update when it becomes
more transparent to the information flowing to and from the K3
through the P3.

Also I'll put in another plug for updating the K3 Utility program so
it can share a virtual serial port through LP-Bridge (for the
Terminal) while the K3 can continue to talk to the computer for the
Logger32 logging program.

Thanks for everything and 73,
Jim - K5LAD



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for a crime you haven't committed.
-- Anthony Powell
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      http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
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[K5LAD]

OK Dick --
Sounds great........ thanks.
I just thought I'd mention it now just in case someone wanted to
dip their toe into the RTTY waters for this weekend's RTTY
contest and planned to use the Terminal program in the Utility
program.  It surprised me, at first, when I couldn't decode on the
Terminal program now when I had done it in the past.

The P3 is new to me, however, and it took me a while to figure out
what had changed.

Thanks again,
Jim - K5LAD

BTW - I was playing around with RTTY decoding with MMTTY
software and the K3 was doing a noticeably better job than was
the MMTTY program copying RTTY off the air.  It surprised me,
but then, I guess it really shouldn't have.

> The K3 Utility currenly uses the text-to-terminal capability of the K3 for
> its terminal program.  Currently the P3 doesn't forward this information to
> the PC host. I've started an effort to exploit a new K3 MCU command, TB,
> designed for programs like this. It's going to be a few weeks more because
> of a vacation, but an update that provides terminal support concurrently
> with P3 operation is planned.
>
> It will be a K3 Utility update rather than a P3 update.
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:11 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY operation with Terminal in Utility
>
> I'd seen comments about the inability of uploading the K3
> firmware through the P3's RS-232 connection and I knew that the
> instructions, until the P3 firmware is updated, was to turn off the
> P3 while loading the K3.
>
> I had not seen any comments about a problem using the K3 Utility
> program to run the Terminal program on RTTY but I discovered
> that in order to use the RTTY terminal section, and probably the
> CW and PSK31 decode feature too, was to turn off the P3.  Once
> it's off, the Terminal program comes back to life.
>
> I'm looking forward to a P3 firmware update when it becomes
> more transparent to the information flowing to and from the K3
> through the P3.
>
> Also I'll put in another plug for updating the K3 Utility program so
> it can share a virtual serial port through LP-Bridge (for the
> Terminal) while the K3 can continue to talk to the computer for the
> Logger32 logging program.
>
> Thanks for everything and 73,
> Jim - K5LAD
>
>
>
> ================================================
> Growing old is like being increasingly penalized
> for a crime you haven't committed.
> -- Anthony Powell
> -----------------
> Visit my webpages at:
>       http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
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>
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[Dunc Carter - W5DC]

  Currently, LP_Bridge blocks the K3 Utility because of potential
problems with K3 commands that have been removed from the current K3
Utility.  According to Larry Phipps, LP_Bridge will be changed to allow
the K3 Utility to be used with  LP_Bridge but, AFAIK, this hasn't been
done yet.

Dunc, W5DC


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[Julian, G4ILO]

I have a version of KComm that uses the DB command, though I have no idea if it works through a P3 because I don't have a P3.

I have pretty much lost all interest in the software development aspect of the hobby though I haven't completely given up on KComm as I still use it myself. However there are still several things outstanding to do before I go to all the trouble of updating the documentation, building an installer and officially releasing a new and hopefully final version and at the current rate of progress this might take a few more months.

I did put an interim version that supports the DB command on the website for someone who asked, but it is only available as a zip file that you must install yourself: http://www.g4ilo.com/files/kcomm.zip .

[K5LAD]

Hi Dunc --
Yeah, I'm well aware of that.  I've been in communication
with both Dick and Larry concerning this and they both
say it was done to not allow collisions of data (in firmware
uploads) but they also both agree that what I want to do
will not cause a problem.  They have limited my request
which is possible and would not cause a problem, to keep
from opening things up to cause others problems in the
firmware uploads.

They are working on the "situation" and will eventually
have a solution, it just hasn't appeared yet.  That was why
I said "put in another plug" for it.

I'm 'a waitin'

73,
Jim - K5LAD



On 24 Sep 2010 at 2:35, Duncan Carter wrote:

>   Currently, LP_Bridge blocks the K3 Utility because of potential
> problems with K3 commands that have been removed from the current K3
> Utility.  According to Larry Phipps, LP_Bridge will be changed to
> allow the K3 Utility to be used with  LP_Bridge but, AFAIK, this
> hasn't been done yet.
>
> Dunc, W5DC
>
>


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