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Richard Thorne-4

RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

I'm interested in the Radiosport Headset.

The website (www.arlancommunications.com) recommends the electret mic,
however, I'm currently using a Heil dynamic mic which works quite well.

If anyone is using the Radiosport headset I would appreciate any info on
which mic element you are using and how you like it.

Thanks

Rich - N5ZC

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Pete Smith N4ZR

Re: RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

Holy Cow, Rich - $269? you can buy 5 Yamaha CM-500s, and tailor the
audio as you want with the K3's excellent TX equalizer. They sound
wonderfultogether.

73, Pete N4ZR
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For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 3/17/2014 7:40 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:

> I'm interested in the Radiosport Headset.
>
> The website (www.arlancommunications.com) recommends the electret mic,
> however, I'm currently using a Heil dynamic mic which works quite well.
>
> If anyone is using the Radiosport headset I would appreciate any info
> on which mic element you are using and how you like it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich - N5ZC
>
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David Gilbert

Re: RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

Agreed, Jim. I am constantly amazed at the money people will spend for
"top end" mics that perform no better with the K3 than the cheapest
electret computer mic. And some of those mics (cough*Heil*cough) have
worse durability than ANY $15 dollar computer headset I have ever
owned. I have bought several over the years for various computers in
the house and to compare fit on my head ... every one still works fine
and they all sounded great with the K3 once I played with the equalizer
a bit.

As you said, the readily available Yamaha CM-500 works great and its
price should probably be the upper yardstick for anyone contemplating a
new headset. I'm not saying that the Radiosport headset isn't a good
product, but it's practically hilarious to have a rig that is capable of
being tailored to sound great with almost any mic and then spend an
extra $200 for no practical reason.

73,
Dave AB7E

On 3/17/2014 7:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:

> Holy Cow, Rich - $269? you can buy 5 Yamaha CM-500s, and tailor the
> audio as you want with the K3's excellent TX equalizer. They sound
> wonderfultogether.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
> http://reversebeacon.net,
> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> For spots, please go to your favorite
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
> On 3/17/2014 7:40 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:
>> I'm interested in the Radiosport Headset.
>>
>> The website (www.arlancommunications.com) recommends the electret
>> mic, however, I'm currently using a Heil dynamic mic which works
>> quite well.
>>
>> If anyone is using the Radiosport headset I would appreciate any info
>> on which mic element you are using and how you like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rich - N5ZC
>>
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Jim Brown-10

Re: RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

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On 3/17/2014 4:40 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:
> If anyone is using the Radiosport headset

Someone invited the distributor of this headset to present at an NCCC
meeting (roughly 70 serious contesters). I tried it on and found it VERY
uncomfortable -- I couldn't wear it for an hour, let alone for 24 hours
during a weekend contest. I can think of no good reason for blowing the
money on it.

I strongly agree with others who recommend the Yamaha CM500, cost about
$60. VERY comfortable, both headphones and mic sound great, and plug
straight into the back of the K3 with no adapter.

73, Jim K9YC

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Dave Perry N4QS

Re: RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

In reply to this post by David Gilbert

Computer mics work fine and are a great low cost alternative. But I
personally prefer the Heil Proset sold by Elecraft. Worth every penny. In
terms of durability, I also have a Heil BM-10 headset that is over 25 years
old. I used it constantly for 20 plus years and took it on several
Dxpeditions. It still works fine. I have replaced the ear pads and maybe
another part or two, but I like the fact that Heil supports its products and
you can order replacement parts. I also like to support vendors like
Elecraft and Heil who specifically develop products for the amateur radio
community.

For that matter, the original poster was asking if anyone had experience
with the Radiosport headset and could make a recommendation. I would still
be interested in someone's comments if they have that product. Maybe it
really is worth the money. Sort like my K Line!

73,

Dave, N4QS

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

Agreed, Jim. I am constantly amazed at the money people will spend for "top
end" mics that perform no better with the K3 than the cheapest electret
computer mic. And some of those mics (cough*Heil*cough) have worse
durability than ANY $15 dollar computer headset I have ever owned. I have
bought several over the years for various computers in the house and to
compare fit on my head ... every one still works fine and they all sounded
great with the K3 once I played with the equalizer a bit.

As you said, the readily available Yamaha CM-500 works great and its price
should probably be the upper yardstick for anyone contemplating a new
headset. I'm not saying that the Radiosport headset isn't a good product,
but it's practically hilarious to have a rig that is capable of being
tailored to sound great with almost any mic and then spend an extra $200 for
no practical reason.

73,
Dave AB7E

On 3/17/2014 7:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:

> Holy Cow, Rich - $269? you can buy 5 Yamaha CM-500s, and tailor the
> audio as you want with the K3's excellent TX equalizer. They sound
> wonderfultogether.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog
> at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> For spots, please go to your favorite
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
> On 3/17/2014 7:40 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:
>> I'm interested in the Radiosport Headset.
>>
>> The website (www.arlancommunications.com) recommends the electret
>> mic, however, I'm currently using a Heil dynamic mic which works
>> quite well.
>>
>> If anyone is using the Radiosport headset I would appreciate any info
>> on which mic element you are using and how you like it.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rich - N5ZC
>>
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Deni F5VJC

Re: RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

The Heil Proset!

I bought one, ridiculous price for poor quality!
This is the only headset that has ever broken on me. The horrible very poor
quality Mic. plug was intermittent from day one, I replaced it.

I now use the Yamaha CM500, far superior in every respect.

73, F5VJC

On 18 March 2014 01:12, Dave Perry <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Computer mics work fine and are a great low cost alternative. But I
> personally prefer the Heil Proset sold by Elecraft. Worth every penny. In
> terms of durability, I also have a Heil BM-10 headset that is over 25 years
> old. I used it constantly for 20 plus years and took it on several
> Dxpeditions. It still works fine. I have replaced the ear pads and maybe
> another part or two, but I like the fact that Heil supports its products
> and
> you can order replacement parts. I also like to support vendors like
> Elecraft and Heil who specifically develop products for the amateur radio
> community.
>
> For that matter, the original poster was asking if anyone had experience
> with the Radiosport headset and could make a recommendation. I would still
> be interested in someone's comments if they have that product. Maybe it
> really is worth the money. Sort like my K Line!
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, N4QS
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 11:53 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element
>
>
> Agreed, Jim. I am constantly amazed at the money people will spend for
> "top
> end" mics that perform no better with the K3 than the cheapest electret
> computer mic. And some of those mics (cough*Heil*cough) have worse
> durability than ANY $15 dollar computer headset I have ever owned. I have
> bought several over the years for various computers in the house and to
> compare fit on my head ... every one still works fine and they all sounded
> great with the K3 once I played with the equalizer a bit.
>
> As you said, the readily available Yamaha CM-500 works great and its price
> should probably be the upper yardstick for anyone contemplating a new
> headset. I'm not saying that the Radiosport headset isn't a good product,
> but it's practically hilarious to have a rig that is capable of being
> tailored to sound great with almost any mic and then spend an extra $200
> for
> no practical reason.
>
> 73,
> Dave AB7E
>
>
>
> On 3/17/2014 7:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> > Holy Cow, Rich - $269? you can buy 5 Yamaha CM-500s, and tailor the
> > audio as you want with the K3's excellent TX equalizer. They sound
> > wonderfultogether.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog
> > at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> > For spots, please go to your favorite
> > ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
> >
> > On 3/17/2014 7:40 AM, Richard Thorne wrote:
> >> I'm interested in the Radiosport Headset.
> >>
> >> The website (www.arlancommunications.com) recommends the electret
> >> mic, however, I'm currently using a Heil dynamic mic which works
> >> quite well.
> >>
> >> If anyone is using the Radiosport headset I would appreciate any info
> >> on which mic element you are using and how you like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Rich - N5ZC
> >>
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w8fn

Re: RadioSport Headset - Which Mic Element

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I've been using one of the RS-60CF headsets for several months. I got
the electret microphone element, mainly because I've got an old Shure
444D desk mic I sometimes use, and I didn't want to fool with the
radically different output level from the Heil dynamics. I'm by no means
a dedicated phone operator, but the Radiosport mic has worked well in
getting me heard through the sometimes raucous W1AW/* pileups and in a
few contest sessions.

Prior to getting the Radiosport headset I had been using a CM-500. It
worked OK and I didn't need to change any level settings or EQ when I
replaced it with the Radiosport mic. The Yamaha is certainly a good
value for the money, but it doesn't come even close to the Radiosport
set in terms of build quality, comfort and outside sound attenuation.
I've found the RS-60CF (and the headphones only RS-20 variant) to be by
far the most comfortable headset I've ever used. It's the only one that
I've been able to use for the full 24 hours of Sweepstakes CW with
essentially no discomfort. I know K9YC finds it uncomfortable, but as
far as I know he's the only person I know of reporting this. YMMV.

If you're concerned about whether you'll find it uncomfortable, perhaps
you should see if you can find someone who has one he'll let you try
out. You certainly should get great results with the electret mic
feeding a K3. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the RS-60CF in
any way.

73...
Randy, W8FN
On 3/17/2014 6:40 AM, Richard Thorne wrote: