Re: Adventurous QRPers needed

[John Harper AE5X]

>It has come to my attention that Ultra Marathons have difficulty getting
>support from ham radio. Most of this reason is laziness.



In my case, it would be apathy for both your project and your attitude.

John Harper AE5X
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[k6dgw]

For the record, local hams have been supporting the Western States
Endurance Run (the very first 100 miler) with communications for many
years.  Starts in Squaw Valley CA (~6,000) feet, climbs over the summit
at 9,000', and finishes at the stadium at Placer High School in Auburn
at 1,200'.  ~18,000 feet total climb, 22,000 feet total descent, along
the historic Western States Trail that once linked Salt Lake City and
Sacramento.  Lowest point is the crossing over the American River at No
Hands Bridge at about 650'.  Hams staff 20 some checkpoints and aid
stations in some of the most rugged terrain in the US, using a
collection of linked and stand-alone UHF and VHF repeater systems,
cross-band repeaters, and simplex channels, including radio-equipped
mounted patrols that "sweep" the trail to make sure everyone is
accounted for.  It usually fields about 100-120 hams and an equal number
of unlicensed family members to cover all the needs.  Scott Jurek has
been the top male finisher in the last 6 or so events, crossing the
finish line in around 16 or so hours elapsed time.  www.ws100.com

A month or so later, the same hams staff many of the same checkpoints
and the NCS to support the 100 mile Tevis Cup Endurance Ride.  I've been
doing both events for many years.  Laziness is not one of the qualities
I've ever seen in any of the communications troops.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

John Harper wrote:
>> It has come to my attention that Ultra Marathons have difficulty
>> getting support from ham radio. Most of this reason is laziness.
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[Dan Barker]

Well, I must be lazy then. If I have to go 100 miles, I'm taking my bicycle;
I'm not going to run. And I'm not going to rush it either. I'll take at
least 5 hours to do it, usually a bit more.

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

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[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Adventurous QRPers needed


For the record, local hams have been supporting the Western States
Endurance Run (the very first 100 miler) with communications for many
years.  Starts in Squaw Valley CA (~6,000) feet, climbs over the summit
at 9,000', and finishes at the stadium at Placer High School in Auburn
at 1,200'.  ~18,000 feet total climb, 22,000 feet total descent, along
the historic Western States Trail that once linked Salt Lake City and
Sacramento.  Lowest point is the crossing over the American River at No
Hands Bridge at about 650'.  Hams staff 20 some checkpoints and aid
stations in some of the most rugged terrain in the US, using a
collection of linked and stand-alone UHF and VHF repeater systems,
cross-band repeaters, and simplex channels, including radio-equipped
mounted patrols that "sweep" the trail to make sure everyone is
accounted for.  It usually fields about 100-120 hams and an equal number
of unlicensed family members to cover all the needs.  Scott Jurek has
been the top male finisher in the last 6 or so events, crossing the
finish line in around 16 or so hours elapsed time.  www.ws100.com

A month or so later, the same hams staff many of the same checkpoints
and the NCS to support the 100 mile Tevis Cup Endurance Ride.  I've been
doing both events for many years.  Laziness is not one of the qualities
I've ever seen in any of the communications troops.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

John Harper wrote:
>> It has come to my attention that Ultra Marathons have difficulty
>> getting support from ham radio. Most of this reason is laziness.
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[Ron-72]

This has been great. Found out that the hams in Colorado are extremely
active in supporting Ultra's. In fact, they do support the Hardrock...Oh,
the Hardrock...toughest 100 miler there is. Got to be some tough hams to
support that. I lust for the Hardrock.... one day...
I'm so glad Western States has such good support. Western States is "The"
Ultra. I was wondering. Was figuring the immediate reports on the internet
of check in/out and finish were due to hams? Thank you guys. Followed a
couple friends all night long on the internet. If any of you want to lean
just how tough a 100 miler is. Just read a book titled: "Ultra Marathon Man"
by Dean Kanarzes. He does a great job of describing his first Western
States. It lets you know just how serious support is in something like this.
And BTW: Two weeks after Western States this last year...Scott set a record
at the Badwater to Mount Whitney race.
So glad to find support other places.
I have no wish to get down on those who can't, and those who are getting out
there.
It's sad that I was told McNaughton Trail had to give up on hams. The same
trouble I'm running up against. Didn't mean to be rude to anyone. It left a
very bad taste in my mouth when I asked the man who organizes support for
events in this area about it ....told him my only possible problem with
being there the whole time was that I hoped to pace this year...it could
take about three hours out of my radio support time (I'm willing to forego
the pacing if I have to) . He wouldn't even let me finish and said: "If you
want to run with your HT. That's your business." This guy had obviously
decided all I want to do is "play". All I could think was....Geesh... these
guys don't have a clue.... This is a chance to actually support where it
could be seriously needed and they don't have a clue.

And yes, I did run this Ultra last year. I wont' get into it. Won't write a
book about me. Can't this year. But sure will go for it next year. And hope
to run other Ultra's in the future.


Ron Pyle
kc0qxu
Hot Springs, SD
When being chased by a bear. You don't have to outrun the bear. You just
have to outrun the other guy.
Beware of kisses from Pit Bulls...They might have the flu...

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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

Guys,

Let's tone this down and end this direction for the thread. As always,
personal attacks directed towards list members are not allowed on the list.

Now, back to the lab... :-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
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You wrote:
>> It has come to my attention that Ultra Marathons have difficulty
>> getting support from ham radio. Most of this reason is laziness.
> In my case, it would be apathy for both your project and your attitude.
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[Wes Linscott]

I must be REALLY lazy then.  If I have to go 100 miles, I'm taking my
Toyota!  :-)

Wes W1LIC

>From: "Dan Barker" <[hidden email]>
>To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
>Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Re: Adventurous QRPers needed
>Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:39:03 -0400
>
>Well, I must be lazy then. If I have to go 100 miles, I'm taking my
>bicycle;
>I'm not going to run. And I'm not going to rush it either. I'll take at
>least 5 hours to do it, usually a bit more.
>
>Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [hidden email]
>[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
>Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:29 PM
>To: Elecraft Reflector
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Adventurous QRPers needed
>
>
>For the record, local hams have been supporting the Western States
>Endurance Run (the very first 100 miler) with communications for many
>years.  Starts in Squaw Valley CA (~6,000) feet, climbs over the summit
>at 9,000', and finishes at the stadium at Placer High School in Auburn
>at 1,200'.  ~18,000 feet total climb, 22,000 feet total descent, along
>the historic Western States Trail that once linked Salt Lake City and
>Sacramento.  Lowest point is the crossing over the American River at No
>Hands Bridge at about 650'.  Hams staff 20 some checkpoints and aid
>stations in some of the most rugged terrain in the US, using a
>collection of linked and stand-alone UHF and VHF repeater systems,
>cross-band repeaters, and simplex channels, including radio-equipped
>mounted patrols that "sweep" the trail to make sure everyone is
>accounted for.  It usually fields about 100-120 hams and an equal number
>of unlicensed family members to cover all the needs.  Scott Jurek has
>been the top male finisher in the last 6 or so events, crossing the
>finish line in around 16 or so hours elapsed time.  www.ws100.com
>
>A month or so later, the same hams staff many of the same checkpoints
>and the NCS to support the 100 mile Tevis Cup Endurance Ride.  I've been
>doing both events for many years.  Laziness is not one of the qualities
>I've ever seen in any of the communications troops.
>
>73,
>
>Fred K6DGW
>Auburn CA CM98lw
>
>John Harper wrote:
> >> It has come to my attention that Ultra Marathons have difficulty
> >> getting support from ham radio. Most of this reason is laziness.
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