I am interested in determining which earphone (or speaker) would have the
highest physical movement. I am deaf and intend to read morse by feeling the vibration. Once I have found the earphone/speaker, I then have another problem. I suspect I will have to find the K2's best audio that fits the device, then I need to nullify its audio output, since I do not want the neighbours to be annoyed by loud morse noise. I partially understand how a speaker works and in order to decrease its audio output I will have to remove or partially remove the paper which joins the core to the outer body - but will it still vibrate ?. Any suggestions would be most welcome. John G4BOU _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
John, you bring up a very interesting issue here, and there are a world
of possibilities. Speakers in general are transducers that convert electrical energy to motion; the motion of the speaker coil moves the cone it is attached to, which moves the air, which is what we hear or feel. So, more motion (easier to feel) usually means louder for them too. Your idea of trying to remove the paper (speaker cone) could be a good one, if you can adequately sense the motion to decode the tone. I am curious though, how do you achieve zero-beat? If you are using an optical aid, such as some we have seen discussed on this list, what of the idea of visually decoding the morse? Most navies did this for decades for inter-ship radio silence, and should prove inoffensive to the neighbors as well. Another question, is can you feel the sound pressure of headphone(s)? Efficient headphones (high sound pressure for a given drive level) have been discussed on list as well, and if that works for you, it might be a way to go; one option might be from the Clansman series of UK army radios, some of which use bone conduction of sound to get it to our ears; odd looking setup that places the speaker on the rear of your skull, but it may work as well. [hidden email] wrote: >I am interested in determining which earphone (or speaker) would have the >highest physical movement. I am deaf and intend to read morse by feeling the >vibration. Once I have found the earphone/speaker, I then have another >problem. I suspect I will have to find the K2's best audio that fits the device, >then I need to nullify its audio output, since I do not want the neighbours to >be annoyed by loud morse noise. I partially understand how a speaker works >and in order to decrease its audio output I will have to remove or partially >remove the paper which joins the core to the outer body - but will it still >vibrate ?. > the paper cone), but might be sub-optimal; worth a try if you can find a cheap speaker with a blown cone - a possible source would be the custom sound installers for cars; they rip out the old speakers and generally discard them, so it might be a free source. >Any suggestions would be most welcome. >John G4BOU > If you like the idea of visually decoding it, the tool for visually zero beating might be usefully adapted to do double duty as a "morse indicator" as well. Please let us of developments; we might be able to help more. 73 de Dave, W5SV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I partially understand how a speaker works > and in order to decrease its audio output I will have to remove or partially > remove the paper which joins the core to the outer body - but will it still > vibrate ? It would be worth a try to take a small speaker and cut four pie-shaped segments from the cone, leaving four strips about 1/4" (6.4 mm) wide to hold the voice coil in position. You might also try something like the zero-beat indicator that's been discussed here to give a visual indication of correct tuning. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> > I am interested in determining which earphone (or speaker) > would have the highest physical movement. I am deaf and > intend to read morse by feeling the vibration. It occurred to me that the vibrator which is found in most cellular phones these days may be just as suitable for feeling the vibrations. Anybody who has any experience with such a device? 73 Sverre LA3ZA http://www.qslnet.de/la3za/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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John:
Do not cut the speaker cone. It serves two positioning purposes. First it holds the voice coil in place so that it does not rub against the magnet or driving coil (depending on the speaker type). Second it provides the spring that allows the coil to return to the center of its travel from either direction. Cutting the cone material would seriously compromise both of these actions. I would think that an earphone module would serve your purposes quite well. They would make some audible sound, but it wouldn't carry very far. best wishes, dave belsley, w1euy On Dec 22, 2005, at 6:41 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > I am interested in determining which earphone (or speaker) would > have the > highest physical movement. I am deaf and intend to read morse by > feeling the > vibration. Once I have found the earphone/speaker, I then have > another > problem. I suspect I will have to find the K2's best audio that > fits the device, > then I need to nullify its audio output, since I do not want the > neighbours to > be annoyed by loud morse noise. I partially understand how a > speaker works > and in order to decrease its audio output I will have to remove or > partially > remove the paper which joins the core to the outer body - but will > it still > vibrate ?. Any suggestions would be most welcome. > John G4BOU > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> It occurred to me that the vibrator which is found in most cellular phones > these days may be just as suitable for feeling the vibrations. Doubt it. They're basically an electric motor with an offset weight. I'll admit I've never tried feeding them with AF AC, but I wouldn't expect them to respond well or give much indication of different pitches. You might do better with some sort of solenoid? > Anybody who has any experience with such a device? Yup, I work for a well known mobile email gadget company, and have taken quite a few of them apart :-) -- "Nosey" Nick Waterman, G7RZQ, building k2#5209. #include <stddisclaimer> [hidden email] Sign in a taxidermist's window: We really know our stuff _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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