Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?
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Hi Ed.
When the other fellow (sorry, just went blank on his name) said u need a good sound card, he was right, mostly. The better the soundcard the better nap3 will work. However, when I first started - say, the first 3 months or so, I used the soundcard built into my Old Dell D620 laptop (W7), and it worked plenty well enough to get me hooked on panadapters. Biggest limitation is that the maximum bandwidth with the old dell (based on the bandwidth of the soundcard) was 48khz - where's my pricy external soundcard allows 192Khz. . That may sound like a big deal, but truth be known since im a cw and rtty guy, I don't find much more than 50khz to be all that useful. Point is, as long as whatever MIC input u use is STEREO, you can use it and gain experience with it. Should mention that according to the author of NaP3, comocon works with NaP3. In fact he stated he prefers it because it loads faster. Detail: if u use lp-bridge, be sure to put NaP3 on the "set port." As for what's easiest and best... It depends on you. I own Win4k3. It is an interesting program, that brings lots to the table. However, for me, the only piece that was (is) of real interest is the panadaptor. You can download a trial and test for yourself. Personally, so far, I strongly prefer NaP3 as a panadapter.. But of course, there is no right or wrong regarding taste. what do I like? I LOVE that NaP3 can put spots right on the spectrum. Worth its weight in gold. I also love working Rtty and CW: positioning yourself in a pileup is incredibly easy. I just got a feature working called the data/text window, which displays decoded data or CW in one window and allows u to type in the other. For now, I count nap3 as second to my rig and antenna in importance to my enjoyment of the hobby. After all, I can still use a paper log if I have to... 73, Chris NW6V : "Ed" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Message-ID: <0ed701d10861$7230b660$56922320$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7 and Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output. What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ? I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface and sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?
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What is " comocon " and why would I need it with NaP3 and my KX3 just to
view the spectrum? Ed From: Chris Rutkowski [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:53 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Hi Ed. When the other fellow (sorry, just went blank on his name) said u need a good sound card, he was right, mostly. The better the soundcard the better nap3 will work. However, when I first started - say, the first 3 months or so, I used the soundcard built into my Old Dell D620 laptop (W7), and it worked plenty well enough to get me hooked on panadapters. Biggest limitation is that the maximum bandwidth with the old dell (based on the bandwidth of the soundcard) was 48khz - where's my pricy external soundcard allows 192Khz. . That may sound like a big deal, but truth be known since im a cw and rtty guy, I don't find much more than 50khz to be all that useful. Point is, as long as whatever MIC input u use is STEREO, you can use it and gain experience with it. Should mention that according to the author of NaP3, comocon works with NaP3. In fact he stated he prefers it because it loads faster. Detail: if u use lp-bridge, be sure to put NaP3 on the "set port." As for what's easiest and best... It depends on you. I own Win4k3. It is an interesting program, that brings lots to the table. However, for me, the only piece that was (is) of real interest is the panadaptor. You can download a trial and test for yourself. Personally, so far, I strongly prefer NaP3 as a panadapter.. But of course, there is no right or wrong regarding taste. what do I like? I LOVE that NaP3 can put spots right on the spectrum. Worth its weight in gold. I also love working Rtty and CW: positioning yourself in a pileup is incredibly easy. I just got a feature working called the data/text window, which displays decoded data or CW in one window and allows u to type in the other. For now, I count nap3 as second to my rig and antenna in importance to my enjoyment of the hobby. After all, I can still use a paper log if I have to... 73, Chris NW6V : "Ed" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Message-ID: <0ed701d10861$7230b660$56922320$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7 and Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output. What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ? I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface and sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Ed,
Com0com provides a virtual comport pair that acts like a null modem cable. It can be used to connect two software packages together as long as one has the necessary logic such as Win4k3Suite. Win4k3 has a built in router that listens on special ports for commands from other software and then sends them to the radio or returns data. It connect to the other software through com0com. It effectively provides lpbridge functionality. Thus in Win4k3, you can hook up nap3 to work through win4k3 and it thinks its connected to a k3. Hope this explains it. You can find a full explanation in the win4k3 manual. 73, Tom va2fsq.com Sent from BlueMail On Oct 17, 2015, 8:15 PM, at 8:15 PM, Ed via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: >What is " comocon " and why would I need it with NaP3 and my KX3 just >to >view the spectrum? > > > >Ed > > > > > >From: Chris Rutkowski [mailto:[hidden email]] >Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:53 PM >To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] >Subject: Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? > > > >Hi Ed. > >When the other fellow (sorry, just went blank on his name) said u need >a >good sound card, he was right, mostly. The better the soundcard the >better >nap3 will work. However, when I first started - say, the first 3 months >or >so, I used the soundcard built into my Old Dell D620 laptop (W7), and >it >worked plenty well enough to get me hooked on panadapters. Biggest >limitation is that the maximum bandwidth with the old dell (based on >the >bandwidth of the soundcard) was 48khz - where's my pricy external >soundcard >allows 192Khz. . That may sound like a big deal, but truth be known >since >im a cw and rtty guy, I don't find much more than 50khz to be all that >useful. Point is, as long as whatever MIC input u use is STEREO, you >can >use it and gain experience with it. > >Should mention that according to the author of NaP3, comocon works >with >NaP3. In fact he stated he prefers it because it loads faster. > >Detail: if u use lp-bridge, be sure to put NaP3 on the "set port." > >As for what's easiest and best... It depends on you. I own Win4k3. It >is an >interesting program, that brings lots to the table. However, for me, >the >only piece that was (is) of real interest is the panadaptor. You can >download a trial and test for yourself. Personally, so far, I strongly >prefer NaP3 as a panadapter.. But of course, there is no right or wrong >regarding taste. > >what do I like? I LOVE that NaP3 can put spots right on the spectrum. >Worth >its weight in gold. I also love working Rtty and CW: positioning >yourself in >a pileup is incredibly easy. I just got a feature working called the >data/text window, which displays decoded data or CW in one window and >allows >u to type in the other. > >For now, I count nap3 as second to my rig and antenna in importance to >my >enjoyment of the hobby. > >After all, I can still use a paper log if I have to... > >73, Chris NW6V > > > > >: "Ed" <[hidden email]> >To: <[hidden email]> >Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? >Message-ID: <0ed701d10861$7230b660$56922320$@com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7 >and >Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output. >What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ? > >I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface >and >sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface. > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt?
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OK. Apparently not something I need, then, for my usage.
TNX Ed K7AAT From: Tom [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 5:33 PM To: Ed; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Hi Ed, Com0com provides a virtual comport pair that acts like a null modem cable. It can be used to connect two software packages together as long as one has the necessary logic such as Win4k3Suite. Win4k3 has a built in router that listens on special ports for commands from other software and then sends them to the radio or returns data. It connect to the other software through com0com. It effectively provides lpbridge functionality. Thus in Win4k3, you can hook up nap3 to work through win4k3 and it thinks its connected to a k3. Hope this explains it. You can find a full explanation in the win4k3 manual. 73, Tom va2fsq.com Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On Oct 17, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Ed via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: What is " comocon " and why would I need it with NaP3 and my KX3 just to view the spectrum? Ed From: Chris Rutkowski [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:53 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Hi Ed. When the other fellow (sorry, just went blank on his name) said u need a good sound card, he was right, mostly. The better the soundcard the better nap3 will work. However, when I first started - say, the first 3 months or so, I used the soundcard built into my Old Dell D620 laptop (W7), and it worked plenty well enough to get me hooked on panadapters. Biggest limitation is that the maximum bandwidth with the old dell (based on the bandwidth of the soundcard) was 48khz - where's my pricy external soundcard allows 192Khz. . That may sound like a big deal, but truth be known since im a cw and rtty guy, I don't find much more than 50khz to be all that useful. Point is, as long as whatever MIC input u use is STEREO, you can use it and gain experience with it. Should mention that according to the author of NaP3, comocon works with NaP3. In fact he stated he prefers it because it loads faster. Detail: if u use lp-bridge, be sure to put NaP3 on the "set port." As for what's easiest and best... It depends on you. I own Win4k3. It is an interesting program, that brings lots to the table. However, for me, the only piece that was (is) of real interest is the panadaptor. You can download a trial and test for yourself. Personally, so far, I strongly prefer NaP3 as a panadapter.. But of course, there is no right or wrong regarding taste. what do I like? I LOVE that NaP3 can put spots right on the spectrum. Worth its weight in gold. I also love working Rtty and CW: positioning yourself in a pileup is incredibly easy. I just got a feature working called the data/text window, which displays decoded data or CW in one window and allows u to type in the other. For now, I count nap3 as second to my rig and antenna in importance to my enjoyment of the hobby. After all, I can still use a paper log if I have to... 73, Chris NW6V : "Ed" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Message-ID: <0ed701d10861$7230b660$56922320$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7 and Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output. What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ? I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface and sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface. _____ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It is an alternative to lp-bridge.
And you're right: Such programs are not "needed" for the panadapter per se. Rather, they are needed to integrate multiple pieces of software sharing a single serial port on your computer, which is hooked to the KX3 (or other rig). And that is a very common requirement. for example, I almost always open my Amateur Contact Log and NaP3 for every-day operating. For another example, during a recent contest I had NaP3, cw-skimmer, and N1MM+ open at once. All use the same serial port to control the rig. Chris NW6V -----Original Message----- From: Ed Sent: 10/17/2015 5:13 PM To: 'Chris Rutkowski'; [hidden email] Subject: RE: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? What is " comocon " and why would I need it with NaP3 and my KX3 just to view the spectrum? Ed From: Chris Rutkowski [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:53 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Hi Ed. When the other fellow (sorry, just went blank on his name) said u need a good sound card, he was right, mostly. The better the soundcard the better nap3 will work. However, when I first started - say, the first 3 months or so, I used the soundcard built into my Old Dell D620 laptop (W7), and it worked plenty well enough to get me hooked on panadapters. Biggest limitation is that the maximum bandwidth with the old dell (based on the bandwidth of the soundcard) was 48khz - where's my pricy external soundcard allows 192Khz. . That may sound like a big deal, but truth be known since im a cw and rtty guy, I don't find much more than 50khz to be all that useful. Point is, as long as whatever MIC input u use is STEREO, you can use it and gain experience with it. Should mention that according to the author of NaP3, comocon works with NaP3. In fact he stated he prefers it because it loads faster. Detail: if u use lp-bridge, be sure to put NaP3 on the "set port." As for what's easiest and best... It depends on you. I own Win4k3. It is an interesting program, that brings lots to the table. However, for me, the only piece that was (is) of real interest is the panadaptor. You can download a trial and test for yourself. Personally, so far, I strongly prefer NaP3 as a panadapter.. But of course, there is no right or wrong regarding taste. what do I like? I LOVE that NaP3 can put spots right on the spectrum. Worth its weight in gold. I also love working Rtty and CW: positioning yourself in a pileup is incredibly easy. I just got a feature working called the data/text window, which displays decoded data or CW in one window and allows u to type in the other. For now, I count nap3 as second to my rig and antenna in importance to my enjoyment of the hobby. After all, I can still use a paper log if I have to... 73, Chris NW6V : "Ed" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - easiest way to panadapt? Message-ID: <0ed701d10861$7230b660$56922320$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have a KX3. I would like to use my computer and laptop ( Windows 7 and Windows 8 ) to display a spectrum from my KX3, using the RX I/Q output. What is the simplest and recommended easiest way to do this? NaP3 ? I use my KX3 mostly on digital modes .... with SignaLink USB interface and sometimes with just the laptop soundcard interface. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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