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john@kk9a.com

Re: Headphones

If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has mentioned
numerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high quality
headphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all CW
and RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.

John KK9A

Mike Streeter wm5dx wrote:

I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a while
but the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then the
foam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, it
occurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming for
hours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable for
long periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer" headset
HyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I've
had Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).
The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now I
have something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).
I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find them
durable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person is
different.
73, Mike, WM5DX.

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Gary K9GS-2

Re: Headphones

I'll second the Sony for CW and non-voice modes.For SSB I love the Irad W1https://www.vibroplex.com/contents/en-us/d9164.htmlThey are fantastic and very comfortable. All that said, headphone choice is a very personal one. In particular the fit and comfort.I'm kind of a headphone/headset junkie.I also like the Yamaha and Koss a lot.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: [hidden email] Date: 5/6/20 9:25 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headphones If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has mentionednumerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high qualityheadphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all CWand RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.John KK9AMike Streeter wm5dx wrote:I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a whilebut the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then thefoam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, itoccurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming forhours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable forlong periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer" headsetHyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I'vehad Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now Ihave something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find themdurable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person isdifferent.73, Mike, WM5DX.______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Clay Autery-2

Re: Headphones

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I've been using a set of Sennheiser HD598SE phones for a couple of years
now and love them, but I am in receipt TODAY
of a set of Sennheiser HD6XX phones from DROP (formerly Mass Drop).
This model is a cooperative venture between Drop and Sennheiser
to provide near "flagship" performance, quality and comfort at a
fraction of the cost.

I have used these before, and they are awesome, which is why I am
willing to let go of my beloved HD598SE set. (Darling bride will use
them on her
new i9-based 16 core desktop.

73,

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On 05/06/20 21:25, [hidden email] wrote:

> If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has mentioned
> numerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high quality
> headphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all CW
> and RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.
>
> John KK9A
>
> Mike Streeter wm5dx wrote:
>
> I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a while
> but the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then the
> foam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, it
> occurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming for
> hours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable for
> long periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer" headset
> HyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I've
> had Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).
> The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now I
> have something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).
> I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find them
> durable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person is
> different.
> 73, Mike, WM5DX.
>
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rich hurd WC3T

Re: Headphones

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The Sony MDR-V6's - the digital version of the 7506 - can be seen in movies
quite a bit... "Whistler" (David Strathairn) wears them in the movie
"Sneakers" and "Seaman Jones" (Courtney Vance) wears them in "The Hunt for
Red October." I've also seen the musicians in Postmodern Jukebox wearing
them in some of the YT videos. :)

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:25 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has mentioned
> numerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high quality
> headphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all
> CW
> and RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.
>
> John KK9A
>
> Mike Streeter wm5dx wrote:
>
> I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a
> while
> but the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then the
> foam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, it
> occurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming for
> hours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable for
> long periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer" headset
> HyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I've
> had Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).
> The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now I
> have something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).
> I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find them
> durable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person is
> different.
> 73, Mike, WM5DX.
>
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engineercm

Re: Headphones

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Another vote for MDR-7506. I'm a 99 44/100 CW ope and don't need the
microphone. The Sony are light, cover my entire ear, and replacement OEM
pads relatively available. Nice carrying case comes with it (for those
that travel).

Clark WU4B

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:

> If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has mentioned
> numerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high quality
> headphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all
> CW
> and RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.
>
> John KK9A
>
> Mike Streeter wm5dx wrote:
>
> I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a
> while
> but the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then the
> foam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, it
> occurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming for
> hours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable for
> long periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer" headset
> HyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I've
> had Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).
> The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now I
> have something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).
> I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find them
> durable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person is
> different.
> 73, Mike, WM5DX.
>
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Ken Widelitz-2

Re: Headphones

I recently received the Bose Quiet Comfort II headphones as a gift. I used
them on my next flights to PEI for airplane noise reduction and it works
well for that. They were so comfortable that I used them in the contest
when I arrived in PEI. I now prefer the Bose headphones over earbuds which
I have used for 30 years because I hated over the ear cans as they hurt my
head and made my ears hot (and I tried a number of headphones.) I don't
turn on the noise reduction in PEI, but I do at home as the shack is
noisier at the home QTH. You can keep them plugged in to a USB port, so the
batteries don't run out. I have always used a boom mic so the headphones
are not an issue for SSB.

As long as I am touting products, I have the Heil PRAS in both my shacks. I
built a breakout box so it only is used on my mostly deaf left ear. The
PRAS works so well that I actually forget I have a hearing deficit while
doing SO2R. I have a hearing aid for my left ear, but it doesn't improve
intelligibility at all. The PARS unit improves intelligibility amazingly
well.

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Clark Macaulay <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> Another vote for MDR-7506. I'm a 99 44/100 CW ope and don't need the
> microphone. The Sony are light, cover my entire ear, and replacement OEM
> pads relatively available. Nice carrying case comes with it (for those
> that travel).
>
> Clark WU4B
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has
> mentioned
> > numerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high quality
> > headphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all
> > CW
> > and RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.
> >
> > John KK9A
> >
> > Mike Streeter wm5dx wrote:
> >
> > I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a
> > while
> > but the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then
> the
> > foam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, it
> > occurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming for
> > hours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable for
> > long periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer"
> headset
> > HyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I've
> > had Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).
> > The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now
> I
> > have something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).
> > I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find them
> > durable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person is
> > different.
> > 73, Mike, WM5DX.
> >
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Macy monkeys

Re: Headphones

100% Bose QC25 here. Lightweight. Over the ear. Stay cool. Noise cancelling. Love 'em!

John K7FD

> On May 7, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Widelitz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I recently received the Bose Quiet Comfort II headphones as a gift. I used
> them on my next flights to PEI for airplane noise reduction and it works
> well for that. They were so comfortable that I used them in the contest
> when I arrived in PEI. I now prefer the Bose headphones over earbuds which
> I have used for 30 years because I hated over the ear cans as they hurt my
> head and made my ears hot (and I tried a number of headphones.) I don't
> turn on the noise reduction in PEI, but I do at home as the shack is
> noisier at the home QTH. You can keep them plugged in to a USB port, so the
> batteries don't run out. I have always used a boom mic so the headphones
> are not an issue for SSB.
>
> As long as I am touting products, I have the Heil PRAS in both my shacks. I
> built a breakout box so it only is used on my mostly deaf left ear. The
> PRAS works so well that I actually forget I have a hearing deficit while
> doing SO2R. I have a hearing aid for my left ear, but it doesn't improve
> intelligibility at all. The PARS unit improves intelligibility amazingly
> well.
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Clark Macaulay <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Another vote for MDR-7506. I'm a 99 44/100 CW ope and don't need the
>> microphone. The Sony are light, cover my entire ear, and replacement OEM
>> pads relatively available. Nice carrying case comes with it (for those
>> that travel).
>>
>> Clark WU4B
>>
>>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:26 PM <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you do not need a microphone, the Sony MDR-7506 that K9YC has
>> mentioned
>>> numerous times on this list is just awesome. These are high quality
>>> headphones that sound great and are super comfortable. I use mine for all
>>> CW
>>> and RTTY contests plus occasionally for other things around the house.
>>>
>>> John KK9A
>>>
>>> Mike Streeter wm5dx wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought the Yamaha phones a couple of years ago. They were fine for a
>>> while
>>> but the microphone was very loose and kept getting in the way and then
>> the
>>> foam earpiece covering all fell apart. So, when I thought about it, it
>>> occurred to me that the younger generation that does a lot of gaming for
>>> hours on end must need something that worked well and are comfortable for
>>> long periods. I did a little research and then bought a "Pro Gamer"
>> headset
>>> HyperX Cloud. Not as cheap as the Yamaha but not as pricey as Heil. (I've
>>> had Heil headsets over the years and never been really happy with them).
>>> The real clincher was that the HyperX has a detachable microphone so now
>> I
>>> have something to stir my tea with. (The only use I have for it).
>>> I am very pleased, they seem to perform well with the K3 and I find them
>>> durable and comfortable. But, as someone else said, every person is
>>> different.
>>> 73, Mike, WM5DX.
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
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>>
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>> 73,
>>
>> Clark, WU4B
>> Little Pistol With Wires
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>> SKCC #3892
>> NAQCC #5055
>> CWOPS #1869
>> Collins Collectors #AC90-12432
>> Southeastern DX Club <http://www.sedxc.org>
>> North Georgia QRP Club <http://www.nogaqrp.org>
>>
>>
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Jim Brown-10

Re: Headphones

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On 5/7/2020 10:38 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> I
> built a breakout box so it only is used on my mostly deaf left ear. The
> PRAS works so well that I actually forget I have a hearing deficit while
> doing SO2R. I have a hearing aid for my left ear, but it doesn't improve
> intelligibility at all. The PARS unit improves intelligibility amazingly
> well.

Very interesting, Ken. Differing hearing loss between ears is quite
common, which suggests that it could be useful for the new K4 to
incorporate the ability to EQ left and right headphone channels
separately! I've often recommended to ham friends with hearing loss to
use the K3/K3S/KX2/KX3 to compensate by massive cut of low audio
frequencies and massive boost the the top bands, and guys have told me
that it helps a lot.

Wayne, are you listening?

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Headphones

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Comfort is just one consideration. If you use Bose QC35s with Bluetooth there is a delay that increases over time. No problem listening to music. But if you watch TV the delay becomes intolerable.

For BT use to watch TV you want a set using the Qualcomm APTX LL (low latency) codec.

The Bose 700s don't use the APTX codec yet they don't have the delay of the 35s. So there's likely more than one LL codec.

Delay is not an issue when using a cord vs BT.

73 - Steve WB6RSE

On May 7, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Ken Widelitz <[hidden email]> wrote:

I recently received the Bose Quiet Comfort II headphones as a gift.

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I second the suggestion that RX EQ be separate for left and right sides.
Almost a year ago I was diagnosed with a severe hearing problem on the L ear
only, where some high freqencies are exaggerated but the normal speech
frequency range is severely attenuated. When people speak into my L ear, I
typically can't understand what they say, even if the volume is fine. I am
so far resisting hearing aids, as my R side hearing is fine. I am thinking
about ditching my SO2R setup, at least for voice purposes. Now, if only the
new separate L and R EQ would become available also for the K3.....
73,
Erik K7TV

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To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

On 5/7/2020 10:38 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> I
> built a breakout box so it only is used on my mostly deaf left ear.
> The PRAS works so well that I actually forget I have a hearing deficit
> while doing SO2R. I have a hearing aid for my left ear, but it doesn't
> improve intelligibility at all. The PARS unit improves intelligibility
> amazingly well.

Very interesting, Ken. Differing hearing loss between ears is quite common,
which suggests that it could be useful for the new K4 to incorporate the
ability to EQ left and right headphone channels separately! I've often
recommended to ham friends with hearing loss to use the K3/K3S/KX2/KX3 to
compensate by massive cut of low audio frequencies and massive boost the the
top bands, and guys have told me that it helps a lot.

Wayne, are you listening?

73, Jim K9YC
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Ken Widelitz-2

Re: Headphones

Jim and Eric - Great suggestions!

If the feature is added to the K3/K4 to adjust EQ by ear, the AF should be
able to be adjusted by ear also. Maybe a menu item that lets you select
which ear gets some additional DBs.

Using the Heil PRAS in my left ear only, I adjust the volume until my
preferred CW tone frequency is centered in my head. I have always been very
careful about headphone volume. My hearing loss was caused by a virus, so
my being careful didn't save my hearing. Now, I'm sure my left ear volume
is at a dangerously high level, but I'm already mostly deaf in my left ear,
so I'm not concerned about it.

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 12:19 PM Erik B <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I second the suggestion that RX EQ be separate for left and right sides.
> Almost a year ago I was diagnosed with a severe hearing problem on the L
> ear
> only, where some high freqencies are exaggerated but the normal speech
> frequency range is severely attenuated. When people speak into my L ear, I
> typically can't understand what they say, even if the volume is fine. I am
> so far resisting hearing aids, as my R side hearing is fine. I am thinking
> about ditching my SO2R setup, at least for voice purposes. Now, if only the
> new separate L and R EQ would become available also for the K3.....
> 73,
> Erik K7TV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> On
> Behalf Of Jim Brown
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 10:51 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headphones
>
> On 5/7/2020 10:38 AM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
> > I
> > built a breakout box so it only is used on my mostly deaf left ear.
> > The PRAS works so well that I actually forget I have a hearing deficit
> > while doing SO2R. I have a hearing aid for my left ear, but it doesn't
> > improve intelligibility at all. The PARS unit improves intelligibility
> > amazingly well.
>
> Very interesting, Ken. Differing hearing loss between ears is quite common,
> which suggests that it could be useful for the new K4 to incorporate the
> ability to EQ left and right headphone channels separately! I've often
> recommended to ham friends with hearing loss to use the K3/K3S/KX2/KX3 to
> compensate by massive cut of low audio frequencies and massive boost the
> the
> top bands, and guys have told me that it helps a lot.
>
> Wayne, are you listening?
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Headphones

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On 5/7/2020 12:17 PM, Erik B wrote:
> I am
> so far resisting hearing aids, as my R side hearing is fine.

If you want to consider aids, go to Costco. They sell very good stuff at
half the price of audiologists, they have first rate test equipment to
check hearing and to adjust aids to fit individual needs. My XYL has
aids from them; I sat in while they counseled her and adjusted her aids.

In my professional life designing large sound systems, I had to learn a
lot about the mechanisms of our hearing system and hearing loss, and I
regularly used test equipment to adjust large sound systems. It is from
this background that I can attest to the quality of Costco's
performance. I was first pointed to them by W6OAT, who has worn aids for
many years. I know other hams who have bought aids from them.

When you talk to them, make sure they understand that you work with
earphones -- that will influence which of several types of aids will
work best for you.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Headphones

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On 5/7/2020 12:17 PM, Erik B wrote:

> I am so far resisting hearing aids, as my R side hearing is fine.

I have been using aids for over a decade. The L side needs one sort of
equalization, the R side does not. Any competent audiologist can adjust
an aid to be flat. Several times I have gone without the R side aid,
and I could not tell the difference.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: Headphones

IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky, heavy,
over the ear models?

I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years. Appears that model is discontinued, but
there are similar ones. It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost about $20 when I got
them. Do a search and you'll find similar ones.

Barry W2UP

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Re: Headphones

My Sennheiser HD6XX are neither bulky or heavy, but over-the-ear from
larger drivers generally produces better results all around.
I have A/B tested over-the-ear, on-ear, and in-ear...

On-ear, for me is the worst of all worlds. I use my in-ear wireless BLE
stereo set when I am in a noisy environment or in the field.
But there is simply no substitute for a proper set of OTE phones when
you need to dig an audio signal out of a pack or out of the mud.

My 2/100ths of a paper debt instrument posing as "money"....

73,

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On 05/08/20 07:35, Barry wrote:

> IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky, heavy,
> over the ear models?
>
> I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years. Appears that model is discontinued, but
> there are similar ones. It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost about $20 when I got
> them. Do a search and you'll find similar ones.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
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Clay,

Have to agree about OTE headphones. I am hearing impaired and have not found a "truly compatible" over the hearing aid solution. The best one for me so far is the Sennheiser S1 avionic headset (no longer available). I happened to have one from my flying days. It has the best TX and RX noise cancelling function I have found. It is a shame that Sennheiser did not continue them. I have not played with the Bose or LightSpeed sets since my early experience with both being too tight.

I have used the Sennheiser PXC 550 II set with the Kenwood D74A BT feature and gotten good voice reports. They are also OTE and good for those of us with larger hat sizes, but did not work acceptably without taking off the hearing aids. They do work without a lot of BT lag so might be acceptable for CW.

I never used either with my KX3.

Jack - KD4IZ

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My Sennheiser HD6XX are neither bulky or heavy, but over-the-ear from larger drivers generally produces better results all around.
I have A/B tested over-the-ear, on-ear, and in-ear...

On-ear, for me is the worst of all worlds. I use my in-ear wireless BLE stereo set when I am in a noisy environment or in the field.
But there is simply no substitute for a proper set of OTE phones when you need to dig an audio signal out of a pack or out of the mud.

My 2/100ths of a paper debt instrument posing as "money"....

73,

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On 05/08/20 07:35, Barry wrote:

> IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky,
> heavy, over the ear models?
>
> I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years. Appears that model is
> discontinued, but there are similar ones. It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost
> about $20 when I got them. Do a search and you'll find similar ones.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
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Re: Headphones

Adding to the small but growing chorus of over-ear 'cans.' I have an
MDR-V6 and a 7506 -- and want for nothing. On ear is damned uncomfortable
and I shudder when i think of putting something in my ears. My son with
his ear buds - he can keep 'em. I can wear the V6 all day with no
discomfort.

Postscript: i just ordered velour cushions for the two Sony cans. Can't
wait. That will be Nirvana.

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:53 AM <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Clay,
>
> Have to agree about OTE headphones. I am hearing impaired and have not
> found a "truly compatible" over the hearing aid solution. The best one for
> me so far is the Sennheiser S1 avionic headset (no longer available). I
> happened to have one from my flying days. It has the best TX and RX noise
> cancelling function I have found. It is a shame that Sennheiser did not
> continue them. I have not played with the Bose or LightSpeed sets since my
> early experience with both being too tight.
>
> I have used the Sennheiser PXC 550 II set with the Kenwood D74A BT feature
> and gotten good voice reports. They are also OTE and good for those of us
> with larger hat sizes, but did not work acceptably without taking off the
> hearing aids. They do work without a lot of BT lag so might be acceptable
> for CW.
>
> I never used either with my KX3.
>
> Jack - KD4IZ
>
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> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> On Behalf Of Clay Autery
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> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Headphones
>
> My Sennheiser HD6XX are neither bulky or heavy, but over-the-ear from
> larger drivers generally produces better results all around.
> I have A/B tested over-the-ear, on-ear, and in-ear...
>
> On-ear, for me is the worst of all worlds. I use my in-ear wireless BLE
> stereo set when I am in a noisy environment or in the field.
> But there is simply no substitute for a proper set of OTE phones when you
> need to dig an audio signal out of a pack or out of the mud.
>
> My 2/100ths of a paper debt instrument posing as "money"....
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
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> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 05/08/20 07:35, Barry wrote:
> > IUnless you're in a multi-op or noisy environment, why go with bulky,
> > heavy, over the ear models?
> >
> > I've used a Sony MDR-W08 for years. Appears that model is
> > discontinued, but there are similar ones. It weighs 1 oz(!) and cost
> > about $20 when I got them. Do a search and you'll find similar ones.
> >
> > Barry W2UP
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FWIW, I bought a pair of the Bose 700 headphones, and I'm NOT happy.
They are very susceptible to RF, especially on 40 and 80m. They make
their system "bong" sound when I transmit. I have tried several toroid
chokes, even one close to the ear piece -- no help. On 40m, I have the
problem at power levels ranging from 5 to 1200 w. Too bad, they fit and
sound great.
- John, N0TA
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That's a bummer. The wired Bose QC25’s show no signs of RFI while running my KPA500. I even bought a spare pair of QC25’s when the price was right. I do go through a few batteries...maybe two a month. The noise cancelling sure wipes out all ambient room noise, amplifier fan noise, TV, and conversations from an adjoining room. Very happy...

John K7FD, locked down on the Oregon coast, wondering...waiting...

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> FWIW, I bought a pair of the Bose 700 headphones, and I'm NOT happy. They are very susceptible to RF, especially on 40 and 80m. They make their system "bong" sound when I transmit. I have tried several toroid chokes, even one close to the ear piece -- no help. On 40m, I have the problem at power levels ranging from 5 to 1200 w. Too bad, they fit and sound great.
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Have you contacted Bose? They are FCC part 15 and even say this in the user
manual:

This device complies with part 15 of the FCC Rules and with Industry Canada
license-exempt RSS standard(s).
Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) This device may
not cause harmful interference, and (2) this
device must accept any interference received, including interference that
may cause undesired operation.

I think it is incumbent upon them to make them work.

I know they have the capability. Their aircraft headsets have to operate in
very similar conditions. Aircraft have HF radios.

I operate a station in our small RV with a KPA500 and a collection of other
electronics and bluetooth devices, with good bonding and ferrites in
hopefully the right places. Everything works with no issues.

73,

Mark
W7MLG

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> FWIW, I bought a pair of the Bose 700 headphones, and I'm NOT happy.
> They are very susceptible to RF, especially on 40 and 80m. They make
> their system "bong" sound when I transmit. I have tried several toroid
> chokes, even one close to the ear piece -- no help. On 40m, I have the
> problem at power levels ranging from 5 to 1200 w. Too bad, they fit and
> sound great.
> - John, N0TA
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