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Gil WA5YKK

Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

Thanks to Ken, K0PP, for the note about the wobbly Hexkey feet - since
I've been busy with a long laundry list of things to do in the middle of
"hurricane season" here in South Texas. I, too, noted that the Hexkey
was a little difficult to adjust to, after too many years of not using a
paddle, but I thought it was just my lack of experience. I'll take his
hint and look for or make my own "stiff feet", and find out if it cures
the "catch the lost dot or dash" which I've attributed to an arthritic
wrist!

73's
Gil WA5YKK

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David Cutter

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

You might find that stiff feet don't stick to the deck so well.

David
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>
> From: Gil Gibbs <[hidden email]>
> Date: 2007/09/19 Wed AM 09:39:46 BST
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning
>
> Thanks to Ken, K0PP, for the note about the wobbly Hexkey feet - since
> I've been busy with a long laundry list of things to do in the middle of
> "hurricane season" here in South Texas. I, too, noted that the Hexkey
> was a little difficult to adjust to, after too many years of not using a
> paddle, but I thought it was just my lack of experience. I'll take his
> hint and look for or make my own "stiff feet", and find out if it cures
> the "catch the lost dot or dash" which I've attributed to an arthritic
> wrist!
>
> 73's
> Gil WA5YKK
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Tim Heasman

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

Hi All,

I sit my Begali Magnet Pro on a Dell rubber backed mouse mat to reduce the
slippage due to the rigid feet used. It has lots of mass due to the thick
steel base but can slip about on my desk top without the mat.

Regards

Tim

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

> You might find that stiff feet don't stick to the deck so well.
>
> David
> G3UNA
>
>>
>> From: Gil Gibbs <[hidden email]>
>> Date: 2007/09/19 Wed AM 09:39:46 BST
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning
>>
>> Thanks to Ken, K0PP, for the note about the wobbly Hexkey feet - since
>> I've been busy with a long laundry list of things to do in the middle of
>> "hurricane season" here in South Texas. I, too, noted that the Hexkey
>> was a little difficult to adjust to, after too many years of not using a
>> paddle, but I thought it was just my lack of experience. I'll take his
>> hint and look for or make my own "stiff feet", and find out if it cures
>> the "catch the lost dot or dash" which I've attributed to an arthritic
>> wrist!
>>
>> 73's
>> Gil WA5YKK

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AJSOENKE

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

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I got a small swatch of a rubberized waffle like padding - you can see
through the mesh like a screen - and it stops the 'scoot' really great. I've had
it so long that I can't remember where it came from, and I'm not even sure it
was intended for use with a key. The one I have is blue, quite thin, and very
soft. If anyone knows where it comes from or it's original intended use, I
think it would be a boon to all cw ops. I used a bencher before my hexkey and
before that it was a homebrew. The tendency has been to make the key heavier
to reduce the scoot from an intense contester or pileup op whose a little
excited. But that doesn't stop it unless the feet are soft and a little 'sticky'
on the surface. soft rubber legs stick but flex and the hard rubber doesn't
flex but it scoots - what a dilemma! That pad I found is the best of both
worlds - it even works if the feet are hard plastic buttons. For the hexkey -
get the pad and some nylon feet - no jiggle and no scoot.

Al WA6VNN

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Michael Bower N4NMR

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

Is that, perhaps, something called "Rug Gripper"? You can get it in
small rolls in most hardware type stores. Initially used to put under
throw rugs on wooden floors. But great for this as well. Can be cut to
size.

Michael N4NMR
Ashburn, VA

[hidden email] wrote:

> I got a small swatch of a rubberized waffle like padding - you can see
> through the mesh like a screen - and it stops the 'scoot' really great. I've had
> it so long that I can't remember where it came from, and I'm not even sure it
> was intended for use with a key. The one I have is blue, quite thin, and very
> soft. If anyone knows where it comes from or it's original intended use, I
> think it would be a boon to all cw ops. I used a bencher before my hexkey and
> before that it was a homebrew. The tendency has been to make the key heavier
> to reduce the scoot from an intense contester or pileup op whose a little
> excited. But that doesn't stop it unless the feet are soft and a little 'sticky'
> on the surface. soft rubber legs stick but flex and the hard rubber doesn't
> flex but it scoots - what a dilemma! That pad I found is the best of both
> worlds - it even works if the feet are hard plastic buttons. For the hexkey -
> get the pad and some nylon feet - no jiggle and no scoot.
>
> Al WA6VNN
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Rob Locher W7GH

solution to sliding paddles

In reply to this post by AJSOENKE

That stuff is sold as shelf and drawer liner, and is available at just
about everywhere kitchen supplies are sold. (Mine came from that mecca of
capitalism, Wal-Mart.) It works great. Having never learned how to use a
bug, I don't smack my paddle around like some do; however, my Bencher BY-2
did tend to meander a few inches over a period of weeks. With the rubber
waffle-style shelf liner under the paddle, it might as well be screwed
down to the desktop. I pushed the paddle to see how much force was
required to move it, and I had to push quite hard to get it to move at
all. That rubber waffle-style shelf liner stuff is really amazing.

73,
- Rob W7GH

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:39:09 -0700, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I got a small swatch of a rubberized waffle like padding - you can see
> through the mesh like a screen - and it stops the 'scoot' really great.
> I've had
> it so long that I can't remember where it came from, and I'm not even
> sure it
> was intended for use with a key. The one I have is blue, quite thin, and
> very
> soft. If anyone knows where it comes from or it's original intended use,
> I
> think it would be a boon to all cw ops.

k6dgw

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

In reply to this post by Michael Bower N4NMR

Michael Bower wrote:
> Is that, perhaps, something called "Rug Gripper"? You can get it in
> small rolls in most hardware type stores. Initially used to put under
> throw rugs on wooden floors. But great for this as well. Can be cut to
> size.

My wife uses it to keep stuff from sliding around in the back of her
Honda Pilot. I have a little square under my Bencher for the K2 and it
solved the "scoot" problem nicely.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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Mike B-12

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

In reply to this post by AJSOENKE

If this is the same stuff I'm thinking of, in addition to "Rug Gripper" as
another fellow posted, it's available in smaller rolls in the housewares section
of stores like Wal-Mart. It's marketed as a type of drawer liner. I've also
seen it in the hardware stores, and I also once saw a sleeping bag with a 12" or
so band of the material around the center - marketed as a way to keep your bag
from sliding around the tent floor at night.

There are different thicknesses and levels of how bumpy it is, for lack of a
better term. I have one type (sold as a rug keeper), but it slides on my
varnished desk top with the HexKey. I'm sure it's primarily me and excessive
hand movement, but it very well may work great for others.

One thing to keep in mind, too, is how much contact you have with the paddles.
If you just barely graze the outer edge of the paddles, you'll have a fair bit
more leverage than someone whose thumb tip rests on the paddles' screws.

[hidden email] wrote:
> I got a small swatch of a rubberized waffle like padding - you can see
> through the mesh like a screen - and it stops the 'scoot' really great.

Just my ramblings...

73,

Mike KW1ND
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Thom LaCosta

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Michael Bower wrote:

> Is that, perhaps, something called "Rug Gripper"? You can get it in small
> rolls in most hardware type stores. Initially used to put under throw rugs
> on wooden floors. But great for this as well. Can be cut to size.

There are also a rubberized mesh product that is used as shelf liners...can be
found in many dollar stores...worth a buck as an experiment.

73 k3hrn
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AJSOENKE

Re: solution to sliding paddles

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In a message dated 9/19/2007 7:03:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:
That stuff is sold as shelf and drawer liner, and is available at just
about everywhere kitchen supplies are sold. (Mine came from that mecca of
capitalism, Wal-Mart.) It works great. Having never learned how to use a
bug, I don't smack my paddle around like some do; however, my Bencher BY-2
did tend to meander a few inches over a period of weeks. With the rubber
waffle-style shelf liner under the paddle, it might as well be screwed
down to the desktop. I pushed the paddle to see how much force was
required to move it, and I had to push quite hard to get it to move at
all. That rubber waffle-style shelf liner stuff is really amazing.

Right on - you jogged my memory. One of the enterprising hams in SBA cut up
a piece of that and was handing it out at our hamfest a couple years ago. It
seems to have a very long life!!

Al

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M0XDF

Re: solution to sliding paddles

Anyone in the UK know where this stuff can be bought over here?

Seems to me, you guys in the US have lots of good stuff just sitting around
on shelves crying out to be purchased - over here, we have to search for it
- rather like a trek up the Amazon to find a rare species!

> That stuff is sold as shelf and drawer liner, and is available at just
> about everywhere kitchen supplies are sold. (Mine came from that mecca of
> capitalism, Wal-Mart.)
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David Cutter

Re: Re: solution to sliding paddles

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You might also look at the sheet of material the airline puts on your plastic tray to stop your plastic dinner from sliding about. It's free as well :D

David
G3UNA

>
> From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
> Date: 2007/09/20 Thu AM 10:09:21 BST
> To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solution to sliding paddles
>
> Anyone in the UK know where this stuff can be bought over here?
>
> Seems to me, you guys in the US have lots of good stuff just sitting around
> on shelves crying out to be purchased - over here, we have to search for it
> - rather like a trek up the Amazon to find a rare species!
>
> > That stuff is sold as shelf and drawer liner, and is available at just
> > about everywhere kitchen supplies are sold. (Mine came from that mecca of
> > capitalism, Wal-Mart.)
> --
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Stephen Prior

Re: solution to sliding paddles

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You can buy the stuff in places like Halfords, where it is sold as a tool
drawer liner.

Hope that helps

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 20/9/07 10:09, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Anyone in the UK know where this stuff can be bought over here?
>
> Seems to me, you guys in the US have lots of good stuff just sitting around
> on shelves crying out to be purchased - over here, we have to search for it
> - rather like a trek up the Amazon to find a rare species!
>

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Chris Kantarjiev K6DBG

Re: solution to sliding paddles

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>
> Anyone in the UK know where this stuff can be bought over here?

Amazon.com sells it:

http://www.amazon.com/Griptex-Wonderliner-240-Inch-Standard-White/dp/B000H7VGTK/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3444193-2826424?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1190309731&sr=8-1

(sorry 'bout the long URL) ... chances are that should give you enough
detail to get it there, perhaps from the UK amazon.

73 de chris K6DBG
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M0XDF

Re: solution to sliding paddles

Thank you Chris, from Amazon.co.uk :

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grip-Liner-Multi-Purpose-150cm-30cm/dp/B000V1QPY8/re
f=sr_1_23/026-5812468-6916424?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1190361451&sr=1-23

(Grip Liner in Home & Garden)

On 20/9/07 18:36, "Chris Kantarjiev" <[hidden email]> sent:
>> Anyone in the UK know where this stuff can be bought over here?
> Amazon.com sells it:
> http://www.amazon.com/Griptex-Wonderliner-240-Inch-Standard-White/dp/B000H7VGT
> K/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3444193-2826424?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1190309731&sr=
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dave.wilburn

Re: Re: Hexkey waiting on bench, due to warning

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They sell at Wal-Mart, for use in RV's to keep things from sliding
around. Tones of uses around the house. I had one under my HexKey
until a recent trip. Now will have to track down that roll again and
get another piece....

David Wilburn
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Don Brown-4

Re: solution to sliding paddles

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Hi

My Profi II came with a chunk of this stuff. Anyway you might find it at a
store that sells wood working tools or power tools. The mat is used to hold
the work piece when using a router. Good luck

Don Brown
KD5NDB

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solution to sliding paddles

> Anyone in the UK know where this stuff can be bought over here?
>
> Seems to me, you guys in the US have lots of good stuff just sitting
> around
> on shelves crying out to be purchased - over here, we have to search for
> it
> - rather like a trek up the Amazon to find a rare species!
>
> > That stuff is sold as shelf and drawer liner, and is available at just
> > about everywhere kitchen supplies are sold. (Mine came from that mecca
> > of
> > capitalism, Wal-Mart.)
> --
> The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose
> from. -Andrew Tannenbaum, computer science professor (1944- )
>
>
>
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