Re: [K3] Need for advice
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I'm certainly not an expert on the K3, but I do appreciate the information
that cycles through this reflector, and I do share the desire for a compendium of how-to and best practices information on the rig. That said, I am a fair writer and I have a good collection of illustration and publishing tools at my disposal. I would be willing to standardize, collate and assemble the information and publish it as a public domain guide. The biggest caveat that I would place on the effort is that I don't have time to chase down the content. If you think a tip or trick is worthy of inclusion, send it to me. Include "K3 Tips" in the email subject line. You can send the information in the body of the email, direct me to a web location, attach a text or word document or any other method that gets me to the content. If you're supportive, contact me using aml5 at mondoserver dot org Thanks! Greg, K7GLM ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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We've already started work on a K3 owner's manual supplement that's
more tutorial in nature and addresses the concerns posted. 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That's wonderful....Estimated completion please?
Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc [hidden email] www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 727-944-3226 727-937-8834 Fax 727-510-5038 Cell www.w9dvm.com K3 #1605 CCA 98-00827 CRA 1701 W9DVM -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:41 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice We've already started work on a K3 owner's manual supplement that's more tutorial in nature and addresses the concerns posted. 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks, Greg.
73, Dick - KA5KKT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I'm certainly not an expert on the K3, but I do appreciate the information that cycles through this reflector, and I do share the desire for a compendium of how-to and best practices information on the rig. That said, I am a fair writer and I have a good collection of illustration and publishing tools at my disposal. I would be willing to standardize, collate and assemble the information and publish it as a public domain guide. The biggest caveat that I would place on the effort is that I don't have time to chase down the content. If you think a tip or trick is worthy of inclusion, send it to me. Include "K3 Tips" in the email subject line. You can send the information in the body of the email, direct me to a web location, attach a text or word document or any other method that gets me to the content. If you're supportive, contact me using aml5 at mondoserver dot org Thanks! Greg, K7GLM ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks Wayne. When it is ready I will incorporate it into my K3 Micro Manual. Should make a very valuable supplement.
Mike ks7d Sent from my iPad On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > We've already started work on a K3 owner's manual supplement that's > more tutorial in nature and addresses the concerns posted. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne,
Thanks for my K3 and by extension the manual both in paper and pdf. I may be in the minority - this is my second radio with only about 6 months experience before purchasing the K3. The manual was instrumental in getting me installed & operating the K3. My first radio is a used Kenwood TS570 that did include a manual that was no where as comprehensive as the one included with my K3. As long as the manual is updated once in a while (annually or so) with the enhancements that are made part of the K3 since the last manual, I would be more than pleased. The release notes are very helpful between the manual updates. I would prefer time to be spent on the product & product development rather than rewriting manuals. BTW - I was amazed at how intuitive the K3 was to use right out of the box - well at least after I assembled it. Possibly that was because of my lack of experience with other brands of radios. Thanks again & keep plodding forward. George AI4ZV - a relatively new ham K3 2412 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne,
Thanks SO much for listening to our "issues" and then taking positive action to address them. This is the main reason you are staying WAY ahead of the "major three" in amateur transceiver manufacturing. Those of us out here giving feedback ARE really trying to help, and although there are naysayers, I do believe this will help new buyers make the buying decision!! Keep up the good work. 73, Don, WB5HAK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Dear Group
This is a very good discussion and it is spot on for a new K3 owner. I have owned my K3 for about one month and I have struggled to learn how to use this radio. So a fairly new ham and a high feature radio are not necessarly a great fit. So yes for guys like me some tutorials would be nice. That all stated above between elecraft support and this group I have a radio that now is exceeding my expectations. But the early struggle for guys like me can be lowered by some of the suggestions. The idea of online video makes a lot of sense to me as this type of info jump started me for my mobile rig. That's all for now. Thx Don Kd8nnu -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Dec 7, 2010 10:00 PM, Don Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote: Wayne, Thanks SO much for listening to our "issues" and then taking positive action to address them. This is the main reason you are staying WAY ahead of the "major three" in amateur transceiver manufacturing. Those of us out here giving feedback ARE really trying to help, and although there are naysayers, I do believe this will help new buyers make the buying decision!! Keep up the good work. 73, Don, WB5HAK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I am also a new General class licensee and my new K3 is my FIRST venture in HF. It’s a world of difference from 2 meter. The current owner’s manual assumes previous experience with HF radio operation. A tutorial/new owner’s manual/video(s)/etc. would be most welcome as opposed to hours wasted in trial and error learning this fantastic radio. It wasn’t just the QST/eHam.com reviews that prompted me to buy a K3, it was the videos on youtube showing it in action that sealed the deal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "don Swetzig" <[hidden email]> To: "Don Cunningham" <[hidden email]>, "Wayne Burdick" <[hidden email]>, "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:09:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice Dear Group This is a very good discussion and it is spot on for a new K3 owner. I have owned my K3 for about one month and I have struggled to learn how to use this radio. So a fairly new ham and a high feature radio are not necessarly a great fit. So yes for guys like me some tutorials would be nice. That all stated above between elecraft support and this group I have a radio that now is exceeding my expectations. But the early struggle for guys like me can be lowered by some of the suggestions. The idea of online video makes a lot of sense to me as this type of info jump started me for my mobile rig. That's all for now. Thx Don Kd8nnu -- Sent from my Palm Pre On Dec 7, 2010 10:00 PM, Don Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote: Wayne, Thanks SO much for listening to our "issues" and then taking positive action to address them. This is the main reason you are staying WAY ahead of the "major three" in amateur transceiver manufacturing. Those of us out here giving feedback ARE really trying to help, and although there are naysayers, I do believe this will help new buyers make the buying decision!! Keep up the good work. 73, Don, WB5HAK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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This seems similar to my situation last year. I had an FT-450, SGC
tuners, and just couldn't get things to work; I didn't understand how the stuff in my shack functioned, what it was really for, and had no chance. The simplest contact was extremely frustrating. My solution (which was right for me, your mileage may vary) was to sell almost everything except and HT and buy a K1. The build process forced me to pay attention to what the circuits were for (at a high level), and adding the feature modules was also very instructive. And fun! Having only a QRP CW rig also forced me to learn CW and listen. I spend a lot of time listening. QRP can be frustrating, but I think it has been good for me and for 2011, I'm considering a QRP K2 build and expect to learn a ton more. It's a hobby; spending a year or two climbing up the learning curve is the point, not the problem. The K3 is amazing (I use one periodically when contesting with friends) and I don't want to discourage anyone from diving in and learning all about it. I just thought I would point out that there are other approaches. 73, Byron N6NUL K1 #2799 Most all the mini-modules On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:02 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I am also a new General class licensee and my new K3 is my FIRST venture in HF. It’s a world of difference from 2 meter. The current owner’s manual assumes previous experience with HF radio operation. A tutorial/new owner’s manual/video(s)/etc. would be most welcome as opposed to hours wasted in trial and error learning this fantastic radio. > > > > It wasn’t just the QST/eHam.com reviews that prompted me to buy a K3, it was the videos on youtube showing it in action that sealed the deal. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "don Swetzig" <[hidden email]> > To: "Don Cunningham" <[hidden email]>, "Wayne Burdick" <[hidden email]>, "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:09:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice > > Dear Group > > This is a very good discussion and it is spot on for a new K3 owner. > > I have owned my K3 for about one month and I have struggled to learn how to use this radio. So a fairly new ham and a high feature radio are not necessarly a great fit. So yes for guys like me some tutorials would be nice. > > That all stated above between elecraft support and this group I have a radio that now is exceeding my expectations. But the early struggle for guys like me can be lowered by some of the suggestions. > > The idea of online video makes a lot of sense to me as this type of info jump started me for my mobile rig. > > That's all for now. > > Thx Don > Kd8nnu > > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > On Dec 7, 2010 10:00 PM, Don Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Wayne, > > Thanks SO much for listening to our "issues" and then taking positive action > > to address them. This is the main reason you are staying WAY ahead of the > > "major three" in amateur transceiver manufacturing. > > > > Those of us out here giving feedback ARE really trying to help, and although > > there are naysayers, I do believe this will help new buyers make the buying > > decision!! Keep up the good work. > > > > 73, > > Don, WB5HAK > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Byron,
That's exactly, as you Americans would say, the 'way to go'. I am always a little saddened to read of someone who has a top end transceiver yet who is new to the hobby and probably too does not have a background of short wave listening. I can only imagine how much there is to learn, especially if there is no elmer just around the corner. There's something to be said for the old Soviet licensing system perhaps. If I remember correctly they were licensed as SWL's and had to collect a certain number of QSL cards before being allowed to progress! Or maybe it was the old East Germany that did this, that part of the world anyway. It might be too much, however, to expect to have to prove past ownership of the K1 and K2 before being allowed to buy a K3! Many of us would qualify nevertheless! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 08/12/2010 17:56, "Byron Servies" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > This seems similar to my situation last year. I had an FT-450, SGC > tuners, and just couldn't get things to work; I didn't understand how > the stuff in my shack functioned, what it was really for, and had no > chance. The simplest contact was extremely frustrating. > > My solution (which was right for me, your mileage may vary) was to > sell almost everything except and HT and buy a K1. The build process > forced me to pay attention to what the circuits were for (at a high > level), and adding the feature modules was also very instructive. And > fun! > > Having only a QRP CW rig also forced me to learn CW and listen. I > spend a lot of time listening. QRP can be frustrating, but I think it > has been good for me and for 2011, I'm considering a QRP K2 build and > expect to learn a ton more. It's a hobby; spending a year or two > climbing up the learning curve is the point, not the problem. > > The K3 is amazing (I use one periodically when contesting with > friends) and I don't want to discourage anyone from diving in and > learning all about it. I just thought I would point out that there > are other approaches. > > 73, Byron N6NUL > K1 #2799 > Most all the mini-modules > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Stephen,
Well, it was the way to go for me, but I can completely understand buying a K3 as a first radio. I have a number of hobbies, and my normal technique is to buy the kit all the others are comparing themselves against; the K3 certainly fits that bill in ham radio. I like to buy good gear in this way because I am rarely disappointed with the results. Besides, good tools are a joy to use all by themselves. And, good kit is easier to sell if I change my mind. This time, it just didn't work for me. The availability of the amazing kits from Elecraft, however, provided a path that was appropriate for what I want to accomplish and I think I am finding success. Others must find their own way and I certainly did not intend to disparage anybody else's choice. Even so, I too would like a "Theory and Operations guide". Perhaps that shows graphs indicating what happens to the input RF or output AF waveforms when different features are enabled as a way to visualize what is happening without having to resort to understanding ICE simulations of the circuits (do they still use ICE? It's been a long time since college). 73, all, and remember to have fun! Byron N6NUL K1 #2799 K2 ordered for Christmas! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Stephen Prior <[hidden email]> wrote: > Byron, > > That's exactly, as you Americans would say, the 'way to go'. I am always a > little saddened to read of someone who has a top end transceiver yet who is > new to the hobby and probably too does not have a background of short wave > listening. -- - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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