Re: [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?

[N2EY]

In a message dated 1/16/08 7:33:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes:


> It is more likely
> that they will wait until the firmware is more mature, the subreceiver is
> available, and all modes are working.

Reasonable guess, too.

There's also these factors:

- there's a considerable amount of time between when a rig arrives at Hq and
when the article appears. They do extensive lab tests (whether you agree with
their methods or not), try the rig on the air, and more.

- They will almost certainly get a kit K3/100 with a lot of options, too. And
there will probably be an extended report on the website, same as with the
K2.

- They will probably want a couple of ops to try it out, just to see how
different people react to it.

---

How about a pool?

My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008.

Anybody else?

73 de Jim, N2EY


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[Julian, G4ILO]

N2EY wrote

My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008.

Doesn't the ARRL buy its review rigs anonymously? If so, they are probably still somewhere in the queue.

[Darwin, Keith]

I suspect they're not jumping in there as part of the early-adopters
crowd.  I'm guessing they'll order their rig in a while, receive it in
late spring and will have the report in the Nov 08 issue.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

-----Original Message-----
How about a pool?

My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008.

Anybody else?

73 de Jim, N2EY

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[Bill W4ZV]

Rob Sherwood will publish a detailed technical evaluation long before ARRL (sans fluff).  Rob also is not afraid of offending advertisers by identifying genuine problems.  ARRL's Expanded Test Reports are very worthwhile but I would rather read good fiction than most QST product reviews.  :-)  

73,  Bill

[Darwin, Keith]

> ... I would rather read good fiction than most QST product reviews.
:-)  

There's a difference?  Oh, wait, you said GOOD.  Yes, there's a
difference.

LOL!

Actually, I like reading the QST reviews but I find I have to read
between the lines and take things with a grain of salt.  There's good
info in there but you have to be able to sift it out.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -
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[Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO]

[hidden email] wrote:

> How about a pool?
> My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008.

I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go way
out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue.  :-)

Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting
and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is not
just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very
early date.

Bill W5WVO

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[WILLIS COOKE]

I have heard second hand that the evaluation has been
done already and there has been some talks about it at
ham fests.  This information may not be accurate as I
didn't hear the talk myself and the source could be
confusing an evaluation of the K2.  If so, the source
was raving about how wonderful the K3 will be and has
congratulated me on ordering one.  I am far more
interested in the K5EWJ evaluation than the ARRL
evaluation even is the K5EWJ evaluation is less
scientific.  I just hope that the Order Date/Delivery
Date is not a linear function!  If it is, I have at
least 6 months to wait.

Meanwhile, read this if you have not already:

http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/

This write up by G4AON is super good.  It may not have
as much test information as the ARRL reviews, but I
think it is super good and after reading it, I placed
my order on Dec 27.

Cookie, K5EWJ
--- Bill W5WVO <[hidden email]> wrote:

> [hidden email] wrote:
>
> > How about a pool?
> > My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for
> December, 2008.
>
> I'm betting they already have one or will have it
> shortly. I'm going to go way
> out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue.
>  :-)
>
> Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3
> intro from the contesting
> and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on
> end to get one. This is not
> just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL
> figured that out at a very
> early date.
>
> Bill W5WVO
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[Terry Myers]

I think the K2 that was reviewed in QST was around serial number 495.  The
K2 hype was no-way near as noticeable as he the K3 hype.  My thought is that
the ARRL has one now or getting one this month. The packaging of the test K2
and my K2 got mixed up and there was some sorting out to do.  The
manufacturer did know which K2 was going to be the test radio for the QST
review.  I waited until I had gotten my hands on a K2 before I ordered,
which must have been a little more than a year after orders were taken at
Dayton.  Things were not happening nearly as rapidly with the K2 as they are
with the K3.

QST and the ARRL web publishing seems to repeat a good bit of information
seen on the QRP-L and Elecraft reflectors.  My guess is they have it in the
queue.  Because the K3 hype was on the reflector very early on.

Now does that change any of the action in the pool?

Terry, KQ5U

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill W5WVO" <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?

> [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> How about a pool?
>> My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008.
>
> I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go
> way out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue.  :-)
>
> Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the
> contesting and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get
> one. This is not just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured
> that out at a very early date.
>
> Bill W5WVO
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[N8LP]

I think at least one tech staffer ordered a K3 and probably has it. I think they have also had their hands briefly on a beta unit. I expect a "Quick Looks" report soon, followed by a full report in the Fall.

73,
Larry N8LP


> I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go way
> out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue.   :-)
>
> Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting
> and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is not
> just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very
> early date.
>
> Bill W5WVO

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[Matt Kastigar]

The ARRL publication NCJ has a review, from September / October 2007:  http://www.ncjweb.com/sepoct07feat.pdf 

-Matt  W0XEU



>>> "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]> 1/17/2008 12:35 PM >>>
I think at least one tech staffer ordered a K3 and probably has it. I think they have also had their hands briefly on a beta unit. I expect a "Quick Looks" report soon, followed by a full report in the Fall.

73,
Larry N8LP


> I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go way
> out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue.   :-)
>
> Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting
> and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is not
> just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very
> early date.
>
> Bill W5WVO

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