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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

Roy Morris-6
I hope this question doesn't just dangle.  It would be nice to get a real "grown up" answer as to why there is a double beep when the K3 is not connected to anything.  Inquiring minds would like to know!  Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

M0XDF
me too - although it's stopped doing it - maybe the internal battery  
is finally dead?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:37, Roy Morris wrote:

> I hope this question doesn't just dangle.  It would be nice to get a  
> real "grown up" answer as to why there is a double beep when the K3  
> is not connected to anything.  Inquiring minds would like to know!  
> Roy Morris  W4WFB

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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

KK7P
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Hello Roy!

> I hope this question doesn't just dangle.  It would be nice to get a real "grown up" answer as to why there is a double beep when the K3 is not connected to anything.  Inquiring minds would like to know!  Roy Morris  W4WFB

What exactly does "not connected to anything" mean?  I assume it to mean
no cable is attached to any connector anywhere on the radio.

My K3s, when powered off and *all* cables disconnected, are completely
silent.

The only sounds to ever come from them, to my knowledge, are from the
headphones or speaker(s), and that was only with the radio connected to
a power supply, the power supply turned on, and the radio turned on.

There is an "alarm" function that is designed to alert you when the
programmed time is reached, including turning on the radio if it is off,
but that also requires power to be connected.

There are no audio transducers inside the radio other than the speaker.
    The speaker amplifier requires external power to be connected.

Baffled in Mt Vernon

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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

Don Wilhelm-4
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Roy,

That is a real mystery, the K3 has no internal battery, so if there is
no power connected, how can it make any sound?  The only battery that is
in the K3 is the battery for the real time clock, but even that requires
power to the audio amplifiers for any output it might generate to reach
the speaker (or headphones).

Since you have nothing connected to your K3, move it to another room -
does the double beep continue to come from the K3 or did the sound stay
in the hamshack?

You could have a serious problem if that is the sound of the Elecraft
Mojo leaking out :-) .

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

Julian, G4ILO
Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
Roy,

That is a real mystery, the K3 has no internal battery, so if there is
no power connected, how can it make any sound?  The only battery that is
in the K3 is the battery for the real time clock, but even that requires
power to the audio amplifiers for any output it might generate to reach
the speaker (or headphones).

Since you have nothing connected to your K3, move it to another room -
does the double beep continue to come from the K3 or did the sound stay
in the hamshack?

You could have a serious problem if that is the sound of the Elecraft
Mojo leaking out :-) .

73,
Don W3FPR
The only beep-beeping I've come across has been laptop PCs left on standby warning that their batteries are about to run down. I think some mobile phones and VHF hand-helds might do that too.

It's very hard to determine where an infrequent beeping sound is coming from. My wife and I were once woken in the night and spent about an hour searching for the source of a regular but infrequent beep, which turned out to be the (mains powered) smoke alarm telling us that the backup batteries (which I didn't even know existed, and which were 6 years old) were about to die.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

M0XDF
Yes, tell me about it, I have one of those S/Ds too (I actually have  
two and they are linked)!

I had the double-beep 3 times in succession this morning, over a  
period of about 5 mins, but not regular, so still couldn't figure out  
where it's coming from.

It's not the phone, not the 4 Puxing Hand-helds (which are chared) or  
the VX-7rs, which have never done that and are on chare too.

That leaves a Compaq which is on charge and hasn't done that before, a  
eeePC, likewise on charge, but in standby mode, don't think it's that.

Lastly it leaves the K3.

I'm going to spread some of this kit around the house in an attempt to  
find it.

--
I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from
him. -Galileo Galilei, physicist and astronomer (1564-1642)

On 10 Jul 2009, at 22:00, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

>
>
> Don Wilhelm-4 wrote:
>>
>> Roy,
>>
>> That is a real mystery, the K3 has no internal battery, so if there  
>> is
>> no power connected, how can it make any sound?  The only battery  
>> that is
>> in the K3 is the battery for the real time clock, but even that  
>> requires
>> power to the audio amplifiers for any output it might generate to  
>> reach
>> the speaker (or headphones).
>>
>> Since you have nothing connected to your K3, move it to another  
>> room -
>> does the double beep continue to come from the K3 or did the sound  
>> stay
>> in the hamshack?
>>
>> You could have a serious problem if that is the sound of the Elecraft
>> Mojo leaking out :-) .
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>>
>
> The only beep-beeping I've come across has been laptop PCs left on  
> standby
> warning that their batteries are about to run down. I think some  
> mobile
> phones and VHF hand-helds might do that too.
>
> It's very hard to determine where an infrequent beeping sound is  
> coming
> from. My wife and I were once woken in the night and spent about an  
> hour
> searching for the source of a regular but infrequent beep, which  
> turned out
> to be the (mains powered) smoke alarm telling us that the backup  
> batteries
> (which I didn't even know existed, and which were 6 years old) were  
> about to
> die.
>
> -----
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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

Paul - WW2PT
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Never rule out moon rocks:  http://tinyurl.com/ndnz22

Paul WW2PT


Julian, G4ILO wrote
The only beep-beeping I've come across has been laptop PCs left on standby warning that their batteries are about to run down. I think some mobile phones and VHF hand-helds might do that too.

It's very hard to determine where an infrequent beeping sound is coming from. My wife and I were once woken in the night and spent about an hour searching for the source of a regular but infrequent beep, which turned out to be the (mains powered) smoke alarm telling us that the backup batteries (which I didn't even know existed, and which were 6 years old) were about to die.
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Re: K3 double beep when not connected

Stewart Baker
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My late parents spent an entire week looking for a trapped bird in their house.
A neighbour found the smoke alarm birdie :-)

73
Stewart G3RXQ

>
> The only beep-beeping I've come across has been laptop PCs left on standby
> warning that their batteries are about to run down. I think some mobile
> phones and VHF hand-helds might do that too.
>
> It's very hard to determine where an infrequent beeping sound is coming
> from. My wife and I were once woken in the night and spent about an hour
> searching for the source of a regular but infrequent beep, which turned out
> to be the (mains powered) smoke alarm telling us that the backup batteries
> (which I didn't even know existed, and which were 6 years old) were about to
> die.
>
> -----
> Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
> * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
> * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
> * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html


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