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Re: K3 won't power up

George Thornton
I have a k3 that was working fine but now will  not power up.

I had lent the unit to someone to use at Field Day.  They reported it would not power up.

Going through the unit it appears  that a nut and washer has come off of one of the PL259 antenna plates.  A thorough internal inspection found a loose washer but no nut.  

There is nothing evidently wrong inside, no flashing, no sparking, no burning odor.  It just won't come on.

Fuse did not activate.

I am going to call the factory tomorrow but anyone have any ideas?
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I would look for the missing nut first (possibly stuck to the speaker)

Then I'd take the top and bottom covers of and check traces etc








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I have a k3 that was working fine but now will  not power up.

I had lent the unit to someone to use at Field Day.  They reported it would not power up.

Going through the unit it appears  that a nut and washer has come off of one of the PL259 antenna plates.  A thorough internal inspection found a loose washer but no nut. 

There is nothing evidently wrong inside, no flashing, no sparking, no burning odor.  It just won't come on.

Fuse did not activate.

I am going to call the factory tomorrow but anyone have any ideas?
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Re: K3 won't power up

Mike K2MK
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Hi George,

A working K3 didn't power up at field day. That probably means that the power leads were reversed and embarrassment causes that information to be withheld. People here on the reflector probably know what gets damaged when power is reversed. Chances are that is very easy to check if you know what you're looking for.

73,
Mike K2MK

George Thornton wrote
I have a k3 that was working fine but now will  not power up.

I had lent the unit to someone to use at Field Day.  They reported it would not power up.

Going through the unit it appears  that a nut and washer has come off of one of the PL259 antenna plates.  A thorough internal inspection found a loose washer but no nut.  

There is nothing evidently wrong inside, no flashing, no sparking, no burning odor.  It just won't come on.

Fuse did not activate.

I am going to call the factory tomorrow but anyone have any ideas?
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Re: K3 won't power up

Bill-3
".... if you know what you are looking for....."

Hmmmm, given any thought to explaining that mysterious statement? Not
everyone knows what you are talking about. However, they would, most
likely, like to learn.

Bill W2BLC K-Line




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Re: K3 won't power up

Don Wilhelm-4
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The base K3 is protected from reverse polarity by a series diode as well
as a diode to ground and a resettable fuse.
So it will not power up if the power leads are reversed - and normally
will recover with no damage when that condition is corrected.
The KPA3 is not similarly protected - the diode drop would be too large
and a 20 amp diode would be required.  The PA depends on the circuit
breaker.

The one element that is not protected is the RFC in series with the DC
input - RFC6.
If the power were reversed, it is likely that RFC6 could have opened
before the KPA3 circuit breaker tripped - the reaction of the users in
the field would be to reset the breaker, so when it returned, the
breaker would look OK.

A bit of investigation with an ohmmeter following the path from 12V In
on the K3 schematic (RF Board sheet 3) will verify whether power can get
to the cathode of D6.

Speculation on my part, but I would investigate based on that scenario.

I doubt the loose nut has anything to do with the problem, but does need
to be corrected.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/4/2014 9:49 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

> Hi George,
>
> A working K3 didn't power up at field day. That probably means that the
> power leads were reversed and embarrassment causes that information to be
> withheld. People here on the reflector probably know what gets damaged when
> power is reversed. Chances are that is very easy to check if you know what
> you're looking for.
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
> George Thornton wrote
>> I have a k3 that was working fine but now will  not power up.
>>
>> I had lent the unit to someone to use at Field Day.  They reported it
>> would not power up.
>>
>> Going through the unit it appears  that a nut and washer has come off of
>> one of the PL259 antenna plates.  A thorough internal inspection found a
>> loose washer but no nut.
>>
>> There is nothing evidently wrong inside, no flashing, no sparking, no
>> burning odor.  It just won't come on.
>>
>> Fuse did not activate.
>>
>>

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Re: K3 won't power up

Mike K2MK
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Hi Bill,

Not mysterious. If I knew I would have said. But luckily Don knows what to look for and responded.

73,
Mike K2MK

Bill W2BLC wrote
".... if you know what you are looking for....."

Hmmmm, given any thought to explaining that mysterious statement? Not
everyone knows what you are talking about. However, they would, most
likely, like to learn.

Bill W2BLC K-Line