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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

wayne burdick
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Your KX3 warranty will be void if you:

- use any sort of Van de Graaff antenna

- operate while sky-diving (OK), but forget to deploy the chute when a KP1 calls CQ (not OK)

- operate in the state of California while simultaneously driving, eating, and writing .html

- out of nostalgia for solder, remove and reinstall all the SMD components

- empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 28, 2014, at 9:59 AM, "harry latterman [hidden email] [KX3]" <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> George,
>
> I agree with Ray.  This radio was designed to be a take it with you field radio. Based on the many treads from people doing SOTA, camping, hiking and other trips, it the design had been field tested many, many times. If there was a flaw it would have been made known by now. Over the years I have had the FT-817 and still have one, IC-703, recently for a short period of time the new Argonaut VI, KX1, K1, and about a half dozen other radios. None are totally safe from me or anyone else when it comes to dropping or getting wet or being sat on or other weird things that Murphy Law will set upon them. I feel very comfortable taking the KX3 to any and all hostel places without fear or question. The radio is build good enough for me, and I am very picky about which radios I will keep or get again. The FT-817 N or none-N is one. The Arg VI is nice but way, way over priced for what you get and I will never get a second now I have tried it. The 703 is not bad, but like the 817 some ha
 ve had final failures. The KX1 and K1 are nice but limited in scope of what they can do. And I can probably add to the list but I hope I am getting my point of view across. There are no total Murphy Law proof radios. But this one come close enough for me not to be concerned bout the price and hurting something expensive.
>
> 2 cents over...back under my rock.. Have a great day
>
> 73  Harry  K7ZOV
>


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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Fred Townsend-2
But rocket lunches are covered even if the boosters fail?


-----Original Message-----

>From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>Sent: May 28, 2014 1:51 PM
>To: [hidden email]
>Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?
>
>Your KX3 warranty will be void if you:
>
>- use any sort of Van de Graaff antenna
>
>- operate while sky-diving (OK), but forget to deploy the chute when a KP1 calls CQ (not OK)
>
>- operate in the state of California while simultaneously driving, eating, and writing .html
>
>- out of nostalgia for solder, remove and reinstall all the SMD components
>
>- empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
>
>On May 28, 2014, at 9:59 AM, "harry latterman [hidden email] [KX3]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> George,
>>
>> I agree with Ray.  This radio was designed to be a take it with you field radio. Based on the many treads from people doing SOTA, camping, hiking and other trips, it the design had been field tested many, many times. If there was a flaw it would have been made known by now. Over the years I have had the FT-817 and still have one, IC-703, recently for a short period of time the new Argonaut VI, KX1, K1, and about a half dozen other radios. None are totally safe from me or anyone else when it comes to dropping or getting wet or being sat on or other weird things that Murphy Law will set upon them. I feel very comfortable taking the KX3 to any and all hostel places without fear or question. The radio is build good enough for me, and I am very picky about which radios I will keep or get again. The FT-817 N or none-N is one. The Arg VI is nice but way, way over priced for what you get and I will never get a second now I have tried it. The 703 is not bad, but like the 817 some h
 a

> ve had final failures. The KX1 and K1 are nice but limited in scope of what they can do. And I can probably add to the list but I hope I am getting my point of view across. There are no total Murphy Law proof radios. But this one come close enough for me not to be concerned bout the price and hurting something expensive.
>>
>> 2 cents over...back under my rock.. Have a great day
>>
>> 73  Harry  K7ZOV
>>
>
>
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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Grant Youngman
Is coffee, in this context, considered a "condiment"?

Sent from my iPhone

>>
>> - empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules
>>
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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Bruce Beford-4
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I believe any liquid or semi-liquid, in this context would qualify.

Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Is coffee, in this context, considered a "condiment"?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>>>
>>> - empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules
>>>
>>>
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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Vic Rosenthal
Is this connected to what a previous poster called a "rocket lunch?"

On 5/28/2014 3:46 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:

> I believe any liquid or semi-liquid, in this context would qualify.
>
> Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Is coffee, in this context, considered a "condiment"?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>>
>>>> - empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules


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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Ross Primrose
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On 5/28/2014 5:33 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:
> But rocket lunches are covered even if the boosters fail?

I assume you mean launches... And yes, but only if you can return the
complete KX3 with the serial number intact ;)

73, ROss N4RP

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: May 28, 2014 1:51 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?
>>
>> Your KX3 warranty will be void if you:
>>
>> - use any sort of Van de Graaff antenna
>>
>> - operate while sky-diving (OK), but forget to deploy the chute when a KP1 calls CQ (not OK)
>>
>> - operate in the state of California while simultaneously driving, eating, and writing .html
>>
>> - out of nostalgia for solder, remove and reinstall all the SMD components
>>
>> - empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>> On May 28, 2014, at 9:59 AM, "harry latterman [hidden email] [KX3]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> George,
>>>
>>> I agree with Ray.  This radio was designed to be a take it with you field radio. Based on the many treads from people doing SOTA, camping, hiking and other trips, it the design had been field tested many, many times. If there was a flaw it would have been made known by now. Over the years I have had the FT-817 and still have one, IC-703, recently for a short period of time the new Argonaut VI, KX1, K1, and about a half dozen other radios. None are totally safe from me or anyone else when it comes to dropping or getting wet or being sat on or other weird things that Murphy Law will set upon them. I feel very comfortable taking the KX3 to any and all hostel places without fear or question. The radio is build good enough for me, and I am very picky about which radios I will keep or get again. The FT-817 N or none-N is one. The Arg VI is nice but way, way over priced for what you get and I will never get a second now I have tried it. The 703 is not bad, but like the 817 some h
>   a
>> ve had final failures. The KX1 and K1 are nice but limited in scope of what they can do. And I can probably add to the list but I hope I am getting my point of view across. There are no total Murphy Law proof radios. But this one come close enough for me not to be concerned bout the price and hurting something expensive.
>>> 2 cents over...back under my rock.. Have a great day
>>>
>>> 73  Harry  K7ZOV
>>>
>>
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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Don Wilhelm-4
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I am not sure what that means, but I suspect a "chin dribble" could void
the warranty.
No lunching over your open KX3! Or breakfast or dinner for that matter.  
If you must eat while contesting, do not open the KX3 to expose its
'innards'.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/28/2014 7:05 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote:
> Is this connected to what a previous poster called a "rocket lunch?"
>
> On 5/28/2014 3:46 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:
>> I believe any liquid or semi-liquid, in this context would qualify.
>>
>> Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is coffee, in this context, considered a "condiment"?
>>>

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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Rick WA6NHC
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No coffee is a top of the food pyramid staple, then chocolate, sugars, preservatives, fats and assorted chemicals.  ;o)

It's never a condiment unless used in a rub or sauce or as a seasoning.

73,
Rick wa6nhc

Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable

> On May 28, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Is coffee, in this context, considered a "condiment"?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>>
>>> - empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules
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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
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Is this list comprehensive, or are there other ways to void the warranty
(for example, sandblasting the circuit boards)?

On 5/28/2014 1:51 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Your KX3 warranty will be void if you:
>
> - use any sort of Van de Graaff antenna
>
> - operate while sky-diving (OK), but forget to deploy the chute when a KP1 calls CQ (not OK)
>
> - operate in the state of California while simultaneously driving, eating, and writing .html
>
> - out of nostalgia for solder, remove and reinstall all the SMD components
>
> - empirically investigate the effect of condiments on option modules
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>

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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

k6dgw
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Don't know about rocket lunches, but NASA employed an incredibly
versatile word for this ... "anomaly."  It could mean anything from a
burned out panel lamp, to FIDO needing a bathroom break, to the rocket
landing pointy end down outside Phoenix.  Anytime we heard the word
"anomaly," we ducked for cover.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 5/28/2014 4:13 PM, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
> On 5/28/2014 5:33 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:
>> But rocket lunches are covered even if the boosters fail?
>
> I assume you mean launches... And yes, but only if you can return the
> complete KX3 with the serial number intact ;)


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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

W2RMS
Hey, not all skydiving requires a manual pull!
My rig always had an AAD (Automatic Activation Device) that'll deploy at around 1500 feet. Not that i'd ever let it...
But i think i took the battery out of it and used it on a Field Day or something...
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On May 28, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Don't know about rocket lunches, but NASA employed an incredibly versatile word for this ... "anomaly."  It could mean anything from a burned out panel lamp, to FIDO needing a bathroom break, to the rocket landing pointy end down outside Phoenix.  Anytime we heard the word "anomaly," we ducked for cover.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 5/28/2014 4:13 PM, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
>> On 5/28/2014 5:33 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:
>>> But rocket lunches are covered even if the boosters fail?
>>
>> I assume you mean launches... And yes, but only if you can return the
>> complete KX3 with the serial number intact ;)
>
>
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Re: [KX3] Re: How Robust is the Build?

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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OK folks - End of Thread. Please resist the urge to reply on OT topics once they
have his 5 replies, regardless of how humorous they are :-)

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Eric
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On 5/28/2014 10:09 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:

> Hey, not all skydiving requires a manual pull!
> My rig always had an AAD (Automatic Activation Device) that'll deploy at around 1500 feet. Not that i'd ever let it...
> But i think i took the battery out of it and used it on a Field Day or something...
> __________________
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>
> On May 28, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Don't know about rocket lunches, but NASA employed an incredibly versatile word for this ... "anomaly."  It could mean anything from a burned out panel lamp, to FIDO needing a bathroom break, to the rocket landing pointy end down outside Phoenix.  Anytime we heard the word "anomaly," we ducked for cover.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred K6DGW
>> - Northern California Contest Club
>> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
>> - www.cqp.org
>>
>> On 5/28/2014 4:13 PM, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
>>> On 5/28/2014 5:33 PM, Fred Townsend wrote:
>>>> But rocket lunches are covered even if the boosters fail?
>>> I assume you mean launches... And yes, but only if you can return the
>>> complete KX3 with the serial number intact ;)
>>
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