Re: Morse *TEST* code elimination
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In a message dated 12/15/06 10:57:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: > Wonder if the prices of paddles and keys will now escalate? Probably. > > How soon will it be before we see rigs that have no provision to use CW? > Where ya been for the past 40 years? Way back in the early 1960s, there were SSB rigs like the SBE-33 and SBE-34, the Heath HW-12/22/32, and the WRL "Duo-Bander" that were SSB only. And that's just the ones I remember without looking it up. In those days and years afterward most amateur HF transceivers had CW as an afterthought. No sharp filter, nor provision for one. No RIT, no way to turn off the AGC, no built-in keyer, sometimes not even a sidetone. Those things were only added as rigs became more complex, and sharp filters are still almost always an extra-cost add-on. One of the reasons I bought a K2 was that it was a serious rig designed as a CW transceiver with SSB as an add-on, not the other way around. 73 de Jim, N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Morse *TEST* code elimination
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 [hidden email] wrote:
>> How soon will it be before we see rigs that have no provision to use CW? >> > > Where ya been for the past 40 years? Oh sorry...I should have said "When will we see rigs that are contructed to make it impossible to send CW? > One of the reasons I bought a K2 was that it was a serious rig designed as a > CW transceiver with SSB as an add-on, not the other way around. That's pretty much how I viewed it... 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Morse *TEST* code elimination
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Of more concern for people who use and like Morse Code is the impending
re-farming of current Ham CW spectrum for VOICE and other non-CW use (a process already begun with a vengeance on 80 meters) ... Between this and BPL, maybe I'll take up model railroading after all ... Weymouth Walker ... K8EAB Metro Atlanta, GA ==================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom R LaCosta" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Morse *TEST* code elimination > On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 [hidden email] wrote: > >>> How soon will it be before we see rigs that have no provision to use CW? >>> >> >> Where ya been for the past 40 years? > > Oh sorry...I should have said "When will we see rigs that are contructed > to make it impossible to send CW? > >> One of the reasons I bought a K2 was that it was a serious rig designed >> as a >> CW transceiver with SSB as an add-on, not the other way around. > > That's pretty much how I viewed it... > > 73,Thom-k3hrn _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 12/16/06 10:47:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: > On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 [hidden email] wrote: > > >> How soon will it be before we see rigs that have no provision to use CW? > >> > > > > Where ya been for the past 40 years? > > Oh sorry...I should have said "When will we see rigs that are contructed to > make > it impossible to send CW? > > The rigs I mentioned (SBE-33/34, Heath singlebanders, WRL DB-84) had no provision to send CW at all, except possibly feeding an audio tone into the mike. 73 es KC de Jim, N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Morse *TEST* code elimination
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At 08:10 AM 2006-12-16, Weymouth Walker wrote:
>Between this and BPL, maybe I'll take up model railroading after all ... Sadly, model railroading is a dying hobby, too. Everyone at a recent model railroad show here were either under 6 or over 60 years of age (except for a few young adults that were caretakers for the <6 and >60). What you need to take up is video gaming. However, I understand that insufficiently sturdy remote control straps can make it mandatory to wear a helmet and keep your home insurance policy current. Keep clam (as they say in storm battered Seattle), Terry _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Morse *TEST* code elimination
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In reply to this post by N2EY
>Way back in the early 1960s, there were SSB rigs like the SBE-33 and SBE-34,
>the Heath HW-12/22/32, and the WRL "Duo-Bander" that were SSB only. But in fairness, the SBE-33 and -34 were primarily intended for mobile operation, and few who care about the quality and safety of their driving would use a Morse key while behind the wheel. (But then, I don't think that microphone use while driving is prudent either...drive now, talk or key later!) Besides, the SBE rigs had an official external adapter that enabled Morse operation, even though full band coverage down to the CW sub-band wasn't provided. It took me years to find one for my SBE-34. Mike / KK5F _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Re: Morse *TEST* code elimination
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No, they are recinding part of the recent change; it's in the same
announcement from the FCC. Looks like the ARRL got the FCC's attention on that subject. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Weymouth Walker" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Morse *TEST* code elimination > Of more concern for people who use and like Morse Code is the impending > re-farming of current Ham CW spectrum for VOICE and other non-CW use > (a process already begun with a vengeance on 80 meters) ... > > Between this and BPL, maybe I'll take up model railroading after all ... > > Weymouth Walker ... > K8EAB > Metro Atlanta, GA > ==================================================== > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thom R LaCosta" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Morse *TEST* code elimination > > >> On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 [hidden email] wrote: >> >>>> How soon will it be before we see rigs that have no provision to use >>>> CW? >>>> >>> >>> Where ya been for the past 40 years? >> >> Oh sorry...I should have said "When will we see rigs that are contructed >> to make it impossible to send CW? >> >>> One of the reasons I bought a K2 was that it was a serious rig designed >>> as a >>> CW transceiver with SSB as an add-on, not the other way around. >> >> That's pretty much how I viewed it... >> >> 73,Thom-k3hrn > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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