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Ken G Kopp

Re: OT 4M

As the repeater coordinator for Montana I can tell you there very few
VHF/UHF pairs available here, and none in the western half of the state.

There are many users of the 70 MHZ spectrum, too.

73 - K0PP
On May 19, 2014 5:09 PM, "Rick WA6NHC" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Another example of how mileage may vary...
>
> Apparently you haven't been to California (lately). One can't get a two
> meter frequency to put up a repeater pretty much anywhere (even though the
> band may appear to be dead) and six is pretty full too. 420-450 is
> disallowed over much of the state (150 miles circumference from
> Beale/PavePaws)... Not a wasteland, just ham politics; often downright
> ugly.
>
> 10M has open repeater slots; 220 is near capacity in some areas.
>
> At least until recently, the CHP has been using 70 MHz for site linking
> but that may fade away since they're in the middle of a huge
> rebuild/remodel of their spectrum.
>
> And there are still low power TV stations using either digital or analog
> back in that range too... Typically minority language, Hallelujah or
> Sellavision channels, but the bottom line is: 4M won't happen here.
>
> 73,
> Rick wa6nhc
>
> On 5/19/2014 3:13 PM, Kevin Stover wrote:
>
>>
>> With 2m and 6m FM repeaters a virtual wasteland what impetus does the FCC
>> have to give us an allocation at 70MHz?
>> Just because region 1 and 3 have it?
>> None, we don't use what we got.
>>
>>
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W1KSZ

Re: OT 4M

What's the situation on 902 MHz ? Still lots of commercial gear available.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 5/19/2014 4:21 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

> As the repeater coordinator for Montana I can tell you there very few
> VHF/UHF pairs available here, and none in the western half of the state.
>
> There are many users of the 70 MHZ spectrum, too.
>
> 73 - K0PP
> On May 19, 2014 5:09 PM, "Rick WA6NHC" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Another example of how mileage may vary...
>>
>> Apparently you haven't been to California (lately). One can't get a two
>> meter frequency to put up a repeater pretty much anywhere (even though the
>> band may appear to be dead) and six is pretty full too. 420-450 is
>> disallowed over much of the state (150 miles circumference from
>> Beale/PavePaws)... Not a wasteland, just ham politics; often downright
>> ugly.
>>
>> 10M has open repeater slots; 220 is near capacity in some areas.
>>
>> At least until recently, the CHP has been using 70 MHz for site linking
>> but that may fade away since they're in the middle of a huge
>> rebuild/remodel of their spectrum.
>>
>> And there are still low power TV stations using either digital or analog
>> back in that range too... Typically minority language, Hallelujah or
>> Sellavision channels, but the bottom line is: 4M won't happen here.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rick wa6nhc
>>
>> On 5/19/2014 3:13 PM, Kevin Stover wrote:
>>
>>> With 2m and 6m FM repeaters a virtual wasteland what impetus does the FCC
>>> have to give us an allocation at 70MHz?
>>> Just because region 1 and 3 have it?
>>> None, we don't use what we got.
>>>
>>>
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Rick WA6NHC

Re: OT 4M

Not sure to whom your are speaking, but not awful in NorCal.
http://narcc.org will show you (wash your mouse, keyboard and hands
afterwords, quite dense in bovine fertilizer and politics).

Many of the systems are intertied (IRLP or RF) so the limited coverage
area works pretty well for channel re-use not so far away (Bay Area,
reuse in the Sac area etc.).

WAAAY OT now; I'm done... ;o)

73,
Rick wa6nhc (GTX/LCS owner)

On 5/19/2014 4:25 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:

> What's the situation on 902 MHz ? Still lots of commercial gear
> available.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
>
> On 5/19/2014 4:21 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
>> As the repeater coordinator for Montana I can tell you there very few
>> VHF/UHF pairs available here, and none in the western half of the state.
>>
>> There are many users of the 70 MHZ spectrum, too.
>>
>> 73 - K0PP
>> On May 19, 2014 5:09 PM, "Rick WA6NHC" <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another example of how mileage may vary...
>>>
>>> Apparently you haven't been to California (lately). One can't get a
>>> two
>>> meter frequency to put up a repeater pretty much anywhere (even
>>> though the
>>> band may appear to be dead) and six is pretty full too. 420-450 is
>>> disallowed over much of the state (150 miles circumference from
>>> Beale/PavePaws)... Not a wasteland, just ham politics; often downright
>>> ugly.
>>>
>>> 10M has open repeater slots; 220 is near capacity in some areas.
>>>
>>> At least until recently, the CHP has been using 70 MHz for site linking
>>> but that may fade away since they're in the middle of a huge
>>> rebuild/remodel of their spectrum.
>>>
>>> And there are still low power TV stations using either digital or
>>> analog
>>> back in that range too... Typically minority language, Hallelujah or
>>> Sellavision channels, but the bottom line is: 4M won't happen here.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Rick wa6nhc
>>>
>>> On 5/19/2014 3:13 PM, Kevin Stover wrote:
>>>
>>>> With 2m and 6m FM repeaters a virtual wasteland what impetus does
>>>> the FCC
>>>> have to give us an allocation at 70MHz?
>>>> Just because region 1 and 3 have it?
>>>> None, we don't use what we got.
>>>>
>>>>
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k6dgw

Re: OT 4M

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Yes, that's the good news. 900 is also full of a whole bunch of
unlicensed Part 15 noisemakers, at least here in Northern California.
There is a moderate amount of ham use here but it's all FM repeaters. I
doubt there's much of a market for a 900 MHz multi-mode transverter.

But then, when my wife asked me if we wanted a card from Wells Fargo
that would let us get money out of a machine at the bank 24/7, I said,
"Ahh gee, that's never going to catch on." YMMV :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 5/19/2014 4:25 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
> What's the situation on 902 MHz ? Still lots of commercial gear available.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ

Re: OT 4M

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Folks - we're drifting a bit afield from the 4M question. ;-)

73,

Eric
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On 5/19/2014 5:00 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> Yes, that's the good news. 900 is also full of a whole bunch of unlicensed
> Part 15 noisemakers, at least here in Northern California. There is a moderate
> amount of ham use here but it's all FM repeaters. I doubt there's much of a
> market for a 900 MHz multi-mode transverter.
>
> But then, when my wife asked me if we wanted a card from Wells Fargo that
> would let us get money out of a machine at the bank 24/7, I said, "Ahh gee,
> that's never going to catch on." YMMV :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 5/19/2014 4:25 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
>> What's the situation on 902 MHz ? Still lots of commercial gear available.
>>
>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>

Edward R Cole

Re: OT 4M

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Regardless if the US will be getting 4meter ham band privileges,
there are already at least two mfrs making 4m transverters so wonder
if that is a market Elecraft would be interested in entering. I have
a contract to build a L70-28 25w DEMI transverter kit for a ham in
Finland this month. He will be using it with his K3.

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
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wayne burdick

Re: OT 4M

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Hi Ed,

4 meters is not OT :)

We're offering the KX3-4M because of significant demand in Europe and elsewhere in ITU region 1. We've built a couple of prototypes, which performed very well.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 19, 2014, at 11:57 PM, Edward R Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Regardless if the US will be getting 4meter ham band privileges, there are already at least two mfrs making 4m transverters so wonder if that is a market Elecraft would be interested in entering. I have a contract to build a L70-28 25w DEMI transverter kit for a ham in Finland this month. He will be using it with his K3.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW

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