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Re: The Believers (OT)

Mike Morrow-3
NN4X wrote:

>Personally, I don't think so, and I'm voicing my opinion.
>
>Now, if I was absolutely, 100% morally outraged, I'd cancel my order

Why not address the issue of just what this repetitive non-stop
nonsense is supposed to remedy?  Do complaining parties believe that
Elecraft is holding back and can solve delivery issues immediately with
appropriate efforts, if only enough hate and discontent can be stirred
up against them?  If not, let me ask again:  What is the purpose of
raising these issues endlessly, unless it is to lay a base for
third-party predator-scavenger (i.e., lawyer) enrichment?

I waited more than six months in 2000 for delivery of the simple K1.
The same wait today for the order-of-magnitude more complex K3 has
apparently left some with their panties all in a wad.  Amazing!

This list has become very tiresome since the K3 was announced.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: Re: The Believers (OT)

wrmoore
I'm with you, Mike!

73, Randy (KS4L)
>
> I waited more than six months in 2000 for delivery of the simple K1.
> The same wait today for the order-of-magnitude more complex K3 has
> apparently left some with their panties all in a wad.  Amazing!
>
> This list has become very tiresome since the K3 was announced.
>
> Mike / KK5F
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Re: The Believers (OT)

Steve Sacco NN4X
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Hi Mike -


Thanks for your thoughts.

Wow.  Well...ummm...okay...here goes...

I *THOUGHT* I've made my reasons ridiculously clear, SEVERAL times: I
would like timely, accurate reporting of the K3's status from Elecraft.

That's it!

I don't think that's too much to ask....do you?

The "lay a base for third-party predator-scavenger (i.e., lawyer)
enrichment? " theory is too "out there" for me to even comment upon,
except to say it's "out there".

I would also take issue with your "endless" characterization.  I've
held my pen (keyboard?) through the July missed date, and really have
made only a few posts other than the one in January - my "OPEN
LETTER", and the "TRANSLATION" spoof this month.  Everything else is
back-and-forth with those commenting upon those e-mails.

Hope this helps!

Take care and 73,


Steve NN4X
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NN4X wrote:

 >Personally, I don't think so, and I'm voicing my opinion.
 >
 >Now, if I was absolutely, 100% morally outraged, I'd cancel my order

Why not address the issue of just what this repetitive non-stop
nonsense is supposed to remedy?  Do complaining parties believe that
Elecraft is holding back and can solve delivery issues immediately with
appropriate efforts, if only enough hate and discontent can be stirred
up against them?  If not, let me ask again:  What is the purpose of
raising these issues endlessly, unless it is to lay a base for
third-party predator-scavenger (i.e., lawyer) enrichment?

I waited more than six months in 2000 for delivery of the simple K1.
The same wait today for the order-of-magnitude more complex K3 has
apparently left some with their panties all in a wad.  Amazing!

This list has become very tiresome since the K3 was announced.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: Re: The Believers (OT)

Gene Hall
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On 1/20/08, Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> wrote:
> NN4X wrote:
>
> >Personally, I don't think so, and I'm voicing my opinion.
> >
>  (Snip)

Well said Mike ...

While I haven't yet ordered a K3, I intend to once
I finish a non-radio project I'm in the midst of and return to active
ham radio.

Having been an RF design engineer with several communications
companies I have experienced some of the multitude of things that can
go wrong after the design and prototyping are complete and you enter
production.  And that was before software entered the arena.

Based on the performance of my K2 and KX1 it is my firm belief that
the team at Elecraft will solve the problems that have surfaced and
get things back on track.

As a customer I would rather they delay further deliveries until they
get things right than ship radios with known problems.  For a short
time I worked for a company that would ship new systems with known
problems then work to solve the problems when the customers
complained.

As I understand it Elecraft is not charging the K3 customers until
shipment as they did with the K2 when it first came out.  They are
therefore taking all the risk of losing their customers to others
because of the delays rather than charging on order and having their
customers fund the extra work needed to solve the problems.

If we give them the time to fix it we will be the ultimate winners
because we will continue to have an American company making state of
the art ham radio equipment so we can enjoy our hobby.

                                              Gene ... W4TCO
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