Re: build rate?

[Brett Gazdzinski]

They are working 7 days a week, and getting 15- 20 K3's
built a week, thats 2-3 radios a day?

Hard to see them making money that way!

I bought a ten tec Triton 2 off ebay today to
use for CW, anyone know if they are any good at all?
$150.00 is not much for a radio and power supply!

If anyone has any info about the Triton, please email me
off list about it.
Eham does not even list it!!

Thanks,
Brett




If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
information do some folks need?

73,
Don W3FPR


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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

Don's numbers are incorrect (way on the low side). :-)

73, Eric

===
Brett Gazdzinski wrote:

> They are working 7 days a week, and getting 15- 20 K3's
> built a week, thats 2-3 radios a day?
>
> ...
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
>
>
>
>
> If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
> 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
> mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
> right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
> information do some folks need?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>  

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[Don Rasmussen]

>> numbers are incorrect (way on the low side). :-)

That Eric is -such- a tease.

BTW - the Don he is talking about is FPR type and he
may not be terribly far off, except with understating
the current order group size.

My best estimates come from a look at the serial
numbers page on the wiki (gives an idea of how much
capacity has picked up over time).

Back in October, K3's were shipping at about the rate
of correct answers in Jeopardy (by Jessica Simpson).

Today, they are still not coming out as fast as
McDonalds burgers, but they are improving weekly, it
is indeed noticable.

http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers


[Elecraft] Re: build rate?
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com
Tue Jan 22 12:34:15 EST 2008

Previous message:

Don's numbers are incorrect (way on the low side). :-)

73, Eric

===
Brett Gazdzinski wrote:
> They are working 7 days a week, and getting 15- 20
K3's

> built a week, thats 2-3 radios a day?
>
> ...
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
>
>
>
>
> If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is

currently shipping 15 to
> 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for
current orders is
> mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and
340 K3s on order
> right now - simple calculation reveals that result -
what more
> information do some folks need?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

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[Doug Person]

Regarding the amps, I gave up, at least temporarily, and bought an
Ameritron ALS-600. I expect to sell it on ebay when the Elecraft amps
are released.  Not pushing or trying to start another firestorm, but
sure would love to hear what the status is on them.

Doug -- K0DXV


David J Windisch wrote:

> Hi, Eric:
> Rumor had it that around a thou orders were taken at Dayton.  With
> your other hand, please get that gallonandahalf solid state amp out
> too ;o)))  73 Dave N3HE
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft"
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>> Don's numbers are incorrect (way on the low side). :-)
>>
>> 73, Eric
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[Brett Howard]

I was finally going back through and looking at how the K1 filter works and
really dig the idea of using the varactor diode to get the variable filter
widths.  Why was fixed xtal bandwidths chosen over sticking with this
design?  Especially now that I hear of a possible variable filter that will
be able to plug into one of those locations?  It seems that with that filter
you'd have pretty much all the bandwidths you need (over however much range
you can get out of the C range you get).  Maybe I just answered my own
question.  Is it just that you'd not be able to get a wide enough range of
widths by using varactors?  So does that mean that when the variable filter
comes out its only going to be for use at the lower end in the CW spectrum
or am I missing the point here?

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[Mike Markowski]

Don Rasmussen wrote:
> Today, they are still not coming out as fast as
> McDonalds burgers, but they are improving weekly, it
> is indeed noticable.
>
> http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers

For fun, the data is plotted at

    http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/k3data.png

I used dates received, so great linear expanses indicate no dates given for a
sequence of serial numbers.

73,
Mike ab3ap
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[Don Rasmussen]

Great job Mike!

Hold it up to a mirroe and you will see a plot of the
guy's personal time after work...

[Elecraft] Re: build rate?
Mike Markowski mm at UDel.Edu
Tue Jan 22 16:06:37 EST 2008


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Don Rasmussen wrote:
> Today, they are still not coming out as fast as
> McDonalds burgers, but they are improving weekly, it
> is indeed noticable.
>
>
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers

For fun, the data is plotted at

    http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/k3data.png



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[Jim-170]

The folks at Elecraft are Smarter than anyone on this reflector as far as
the reality of what it takes to conduct a successful high technology
business model in the United States today, and the reality of the overhead
and salary expenses of their high tech staff experts and engineers. These
engineers and designers are not cheap (six figure salaries are common place
in Today's engineering fields with highly experienced software, hardware,
and systems engineers).

Elecraft is much better off with such a limited Amateur Market to not hire a
large production staff for high volume production of K3 radios just to make
Hams Happy.

It is business, and in order for K3 to have a profitable business with a
small staff of experienced designers, engineers, technicians, and support
staff, they are very business saavy to only have a production rate that they
can physically support with their lean and mean company, rather than have a
large production model and then have to layoff these production personnel
when the Ham Bubble reaches its peak and then begins to subside to a normal
delivery rate.

So, the reality is that it is more important for the Elecraft business model
to look out for their viability rather than make a small market of Amateurs
happy with immediate deliveries.

Elecraft is not ICOM America and they don't have a Japanese base of workers
that they can draw on.......

It is no wonder that Motorola bought Yaesu / Vertex, as even these
manufacturers have to be able to justify their bottom line.

Lets face it the amateur market is very small, therefore, the businesses
such as Elecraft, Flex Radio, and Ten Tec have to have very innovative
business models in order to stay around.

Congratulations to the Elecraft staff for your successful business model and
for allowing us to have the privilege to be able to take advantage of the
finest in HF communications technology at the most reasonable of prices
anywhere.

Bravo,

K4PV





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[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Brett Gazdzinski
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:26 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: build rate?

They are working 7 days a week, and getting 15- 20 K3's
built a week, thats 2-3 radios a day?

Hard to see them making money that way!

I bought a ten tec Triton 2 off ebay today to
use for CW, anyone know if they are any good at all?
$150.00 is not much for a radio and power supply!

If anyone has any info about the Triton, please email me
off list about it.
Eham does not even list it!!

Thanks,
Brett




If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
information do some folks need?

73,
Don W3FPR


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[Don Rasmussen]

When I give thanks each night, I have a special hope
that Elecraft stays
smarter than Dentron (also fine hams and good people),
they over expanded
then dissolved. Then there's MFJ - who seem to hang
around for ever, but
rest their business model on cost cutting alone. Yes I
own some of their
stuff but (being kind) they fill that niche quite
nicely. That a small
enterprise like Elecraft can exist along side a
relative giant like
Ten Tec is quite a testament to their efficiency.

[Elecraft] Re: build rate?
Jim jdunbar28 at mchsi.com
Tue Jan 22 19:03:36 EST 2008

The folks at Elecraft are Smarter than anyone on this
reflector as far as
the reality of what it takes to conduct a successful
high technology
business model in the United States today, and the
reality of the overhead
and salary expenses of their high tech staff experts
and engineers. These
engineers and designers are not cheap (six figure
salaries are common place
in Today's engineering fields with highly experienced
software, hardware,
and systems engineers).

Elecraft is much better off with such a limited
Amateur Market to not hire a
large production staff for high volume production of
K3 radios just to make
Hams Happy.

It is business, and in order for K3 to have a
profitable business with a
small staff of experienced designers, engineers,
technicians, and support
staff, they are very business saavy to only have a
production rate that they
can physically support with their lean and mean
company, rather than have a
large production model and then have to layoff these
production personnel
when the Ham Bubble reaches its peak and then begins
to subside to a normal
delivery rate.

So, the reality is that it is more important for the
Elecraft business model
to look out for their viability rather than make a
small market of Amateurs
happy with immediate deliveries.

Elecraft is not ICOM America and they don't have a
Japanese base of workers
that they can draw on.......

It is no wonder that Motorola bought Yaesu / Vertex,
as even these
manufacturers have to be able to justify their bottom
line.

Lets face it the amateur market is very small,
therefore, the businesses
such as Elecraft, Flex Radio, and Ten Tec have to have
very innovative
business models in order to stay around.

Congratulations to the Elecraft staff for your
successful business model and
for allowing us to have the privilege to be able to
take advantage of the
finest in HF communications technology at the most
reasonable of prices
anywhere.

Bravo,

K4PV


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