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The RSGB has an excellent ham radio overview video. The target audience is people under about 30. Everyone in the video is under ~25. It presents the hobby in young peoples' terms using their terms and points of reference. It covers public service, HF, V/UHF, contesting, satellites, lnternet connectivity, fox hunting, building stuff. The best video I’ve seen to describe ham radio in modern terms to non- 50 or 60 year olds.
I will try to find the link. 73, Kevin Sent from my iPad > On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:35, KENT TRIMBLE <[hidden email]> wrote: > > We might take a page from Cadillac. > > Somewhere in the early 2000s their ads began using models and actors exclusively in the 20-40 age range. No more gray-haired executives. > > Jack makes good points. > > Why do they call you "weird," by the way? > > 73, > > Kent K9ZTV > > > > >> On 12/16/2019 3:07 PM, [hidden email] wrote: >> Have any of us ever tried to poll younger non-related and non-ham persons in >> a structured way? Probably not ... >> >> Introspectively, what I do see is one generation of an old civic (mostly >> men's) club in a panic because we perceive we are all dying off and there >> will be no one to "carry on". An awfully large group of people look at "us" as odd or funny old dudes... >> The media has never helped us much. Ham radio is just a TV prop and usually used to poke fun at >> certain attitudes. OTOH the actual high value stuff we occasionally do is >> all too often relegated to 11pm local news as "filler" if it is reported at >> all. Who failed? Not even worth pointing fingers... we did. >> >> Embrace it, have fun with the hobby, chill, let the marketing departments at >> "IKY" and "China-Inc" figure out the sales pitch. We geeks will still be >> here in the future and some will be hams... and we'll line up for the latest >> widgets. Let's move on. >> >> 73 All, >> "Weird Uncle Jack" >> KD4IZ >> Jack Spitznagel >> FM19oo >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ “Amateur Radio - A 21st Century Hobby” produced by the RSGB
Sent from my iPad > On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:40, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) <[hidden email]> wrote: > > The RSGB has an excellent ham radio overview video. The target audience is people under about 30. Everyone in the video is under ~25. It presents the hobby in young peoples' terms using their terms and points of reference. It covers public service, HF, V/UHF, contesting, satellites, lnternet connectivity, fox hunting, building stuff. The best video I’ve seen to describe ham radio in modern terms to non- 50 or 60 year olds. > > I will try to find the link. > > 73, > > Kevin > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:35, KENT TRIMBLE <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> We might take a page from Cadillac. >> >> Somewhere in the early 2000s their ads began using models and actors exclusively in the 20-40 age range. No more gray-haired executives. >> >> Jack makes good points. >> >> Why do they call you "weird," by the way? >> >> 73, >> >> Kent K9ZTV >> >> >> >> >>> On 12/16/2019 3:07 PM, [hidden email] wrote: >>> Have any of us ever tried to poll younger non-related and non-ham persons in >>> a structured way? Probably not ... >>> >>> Introspectively, what I do see is one generation of an old civic (mostly >>> men's) club in a panic because we perceive we are all dying off and there >>> will be no one to "carry on". An awfully large group of people look at "us" as odd or funny old dudes... >>> The media has never helped us much. Ham radio is just a TV prop and usually used to poke fun at >>> certain attitudes. OTOH the actual high value stuff we occasionally do is >>> all too often relegated to 11pm local news as "filler" if it is reported at >>> all. Who failed? Not even worth pointing fingers... we did. >>> >>> Embrace it, have fun with the hobby, chill, let the marketing departments at >>> "IKY" and "China-Inc" figure out the sales pitch. We geeks will still be >>> here in the future and some will be hams... and we'll line up for the latest >>> widgets. Let's move on. >>> >>> 73 All, >>> "Weird Uncle Jack" >>> KD4IZ >>> Jack Spitznagel >>> FM19oo >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Quoting myself: "an inexpensive entry level transceiver might find
market with newcomers on tight budgets (eg the K1, etc.); something other than a VHF HT", the $150 ten-watt HF transceiver based on SDR is what I was thinking of: Today's "Heathkit Lunchbox"! From: John Harper <[hidden email]> To: Elecraft list <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] THE FUTURE OF OUR HOBBY Message-ID: <CAPHmH=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" 10-80m CW and phone for $150: http://www.hfsignals.com/ 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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A VERY good video. I use it with Scouts as my intro into JOTA (Jamboree
on the Air) for the past few years. Professionally done. If is fast paced it does SHOW youth doing RADIO and it keeps the interest as it is only six minutes long.... a very very good video. 73, steve WB3LGC On 12/17/19 12:45 PM, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) wrote: > https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ “Amateur Radio - A 21st Century Hobby” produced by the RSGB > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:40, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> The RSGB has an excellent ham radio overview video. The target audience is people under about 30. Everyone in the video is under ~25. It presents the hobby in young peoples' terms using their terms and points of reference. It covers public service, HF, V/UHF, contesting, satellites, lnternet connectivity, fox hunting, building stuff. The best video I’ve seen to describe ham radio in modern terms to non- 50 or 60 year olds. >> >> I will try to find the link. >> >> 73, >> >> Kevin >> Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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As I recall BAOFENG has basically accomplished that with a $29.95
VHF/UHF 8 watt radio. The kids in the neighborhood love them. And the parents can summon the kids using my repeater. License????? What's that? It is like CB, no license required. Just ask one of them and you'll find out the real story. Plus it is way less expensive than a cell phone and there is no monthly fee. Asking, do we want more of that "quality" on the air, specially on HF? And for those that say "mine works great", have you looked at the output on a spectrum analyzer? I doubt it. Oh but it is approved by the FCC. NO, the paperwork was approved as submitted. The FCC does not test radios. As I recall, ARRL checked one of those at Dayton a couple years back. Nope, didn't pass the tests. Many of the JA's are bad enough as it is? Key clicks, spurious sigs, and broad band transmitter noise abound. But it seems we only want better receivers for which to hear the crap being transmitted. If it is in the receiver passband, we will hear it. Rob Sherwood nailed it in the recent QST article on transmitter purity. We must demand better, otherwise, it won't get better. Some of those old relics found on the air today, and a few new ones too, should be put in a bucket of water 3 times and taken out twice. I'm just waiting in the sidelines for the appearance of a 160M - 6M HF radio, ~100 watts targeted at way under $500. I think my 10" reflector telescope may be the only way to enjoy some part of the spectrum in the future. 73 Bob, K4TAX ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And for you "new" hams, $150 today was worth $35.02 in 1970. I did a
presentation that included what is available today and what was available 20 years ago along with real Dollar comparisons. Most (old--you define that) hams rarely consider inflation in their assumptions, much less what "young" people spend on hobbies. Worse yet, most hams (those who have been licensed less than 10 years) have no idea about the demographics of those licensed under 10 years. The ARRL paid big bucks to study this and our slowly declining membership. If you pay attention to Howard Mickel's columns, QST's content, and even the ARRL web site, you can see the difference. Informed members know ARRL will publish a new magazine beginning next month. It's directed to the less than 10 years-licensed hams who are ill-served by most ham radio clubs today. Effective and more wide-spread mentoring, more welcoming clubs, and related approaches that get the under 10 years-licensed hams engaged in the hobby (on-the-air, especially on HF) is what's needed. For most of us, the biggest challenge we face related to our hobby's future is easy to find. It's reflected in the mirrors in front of us. If I have insulted you because you're meeting the needs of the under 10 years-licensed cohorts, great! That means you are among the few who are helping others and not yourselves. Although, I get great enjoyment out of sharing the joy of this hobby with others, regardless of age, time in the hobby, and experience. Our (Duke City Hamfest in Albuquerque) approach to this challenge was to launch HF University nearly four years ago. Intended for the new General or Tech, the majority of participants have been Extra Class licensees, many of whom have had little HF experience. The only thing that tires them, especially those who return each year, is my Elecraft Kool-Aid. Sorry, but I can't help that. Good DX, Good Luck in the Contest, Merry Christmas, etc. 73, Bill Mader, K8TE W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 4-13 Sep 2020 ARRL New Mexico Section Manager ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio™ Duke City Hamfest BoD Vice-Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 18-20 Sep 2020 Secretary and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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