Reading/Posting to Elecraft list?

[Deni F5VJC]

This is getting way too complicated.
I have been reading and posting to the Elecraft reflector, list or whatever you call it now since 2000 when I discovered Elecraft and built my K2.
Right now with my K3 I'm getting increasingly confused as to the best/easiest way to view and post messages to the list/forum or whatever it's called now, and as you can see I'm posting from Nabble, the only method that seems to work for me.

Would someone informed please advise the best/easiest way to view and post to Elecraft?

I'd rather be playing K3 radio than messing with this stuff...

73, Deni
F5VJC

[Don Wilhelm-4]

Deni,

For me, the very easiest method is to receive the individual emails.  I
have my mail client sort on "[Elecraft]" in the subject line and put all
that meet the sort criteria into the Elecraft folder of my Inbox.  So I
have the equivalent of 'my own little digest', but they are individual
emails.
The messages are all there in my email until I delete them, so I can
respond to any of them - Reply goes to the poster while Reply All will
send it to the poster and the Elecraft list - I can edit the recipients
if that is desired.

I find it quicker to use the delete key on the individual messages that
I am not interested in than to wade through a digest format to find
those that I am interested in.

73,
Don W3FPR

Deni F5VJC wrote:

> This is getting way too complicated.
> I have been reading and posting to the Elecraft reflector, list or whatever
> you call it now since 2000 when I discovered Elecraft and built my K2.
> Right now with my K3 I'm getting increasingly confused as to the
> best/easiest way to view and post messages to the list/forum or whatever
> it's called now, and as you can see I'm posting from Nabble, the only method
> that seems to work for me.
>
> Would someone informed please advise the best/easiest way to view and post
> to Elecraft?
>
> I'd rather be playing K3 radio than messing with this stuff...
>
> 73, Deni
>  
>

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[Julian, G4ILO]

Deni F5VJC wrote

and as you can see I'm posting from Nabble, the only method that seems to work for me.

Would someone informed please advise the best/easiest way to view and post to Elecraft?

I use Nabble too and find that is the best way for me. I see no point in receiving individual emails or digests because nowadays more than 50% of the posts nowadays are of no interest. Using Nabble I can scan the subject headers and only browse the threads of interest. If I don't bother to read them then I'm not nagged by seeing "x unread messages" and if I go away then I don't have to download hundreds of messages that I'll probably never have time to read when I get back.

[w7aqk]

Deni and All,

I agree with Don.  If your email system allows you to sort
your inbound emails, it can really make life much simpler.
I use Outlook Express and/or Windows Mail (the Vista version
of Outlook Express), which allows me to set up message rules
that automatically direct various emails to various separate
folders.  There are several ways to sort your messages, so
it's pretty flexible.  I simply use the subject line by
having the system divert all messages with the "Elecraft"
designation go to a separate folder.  That captures all
messages coming from the Elecraft reflector.  I get 40 to 50
messages a day from the Elecraft reflector (sometimes a lot
more), and I can usually dispose of them fairly quickly by
then just perusing the subject line for each.  My delete key
gets a lot of work, but it goes pretty fast.  The problem I
find with getting "digests" is that when you want to respond
to a certain message, it becomes a lot more complicated,
since not all digests provide a clear method for responding
to just that one message you are interested in responding
to.  QTH.net is one of those that makes this difficult.  Of
course, it would be exponentially more helpful if folks
would pay more attention to the subject line, but that's a
battle that seems to be more like Don Quixote at the
Windmill!  Anyway, if you aren't using a method like the one
I describe, you might consider at least trying it.

Dave W7AQK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
To: "Deni F5VJC" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Re[Elecraft] ading/Posting to Elecraft list?

> Deni,
>
> For me, the very easiest method is to receive the
> individual emails.  I have my mail client sort on
> "[Elecraft]" in the subject line and put all that meet the
> sort criteria into the Elecraft folder of my Inbox.  So I
> have the equivalent of 'my own little digest', but they
> are individual emails.
> The messages are all there in my email until I delete
> them, so I can respond to any of them - Reply goes to the
> poster while Reply All will send it to the poster and the
> Elecraft list - I can edit the recipients if that is
> desired.
>
> I find it quicker to use the delete key on the individual
> messages that I am not interested in than to wade through
> a digest format to find those that I am interested in.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Deni F5VJC wrote:
>> This is getting way too complicated.
>> I have been reading and posting to the Elecraft
>> reflector, list or whatever
>> you call it now since 2000 when I discovered Elecraft and
>> built my K2.
>> Right now with my K3 I'm getting increasingly confused as
>> to the
>> best/easiest way to view and post messages to the
>> list/forum or whatever
>> it's called now, and as you can see I'm posting from
>> Nabble, the only method
>> that seems to work for me.
>>
>> Would someone informed please advise the best/easiest way
>> to view and post
>> to Elecraft?
>>
>> I'd rather be playing K3 radio than messing with this
>> stuff...
>>
>> 73, Deni
>>
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[M0XDF]

I do likewise, but Apple Mail automatically separates into different  
mailboxes for each account I use and I then sub-divide with a rule. I  
discard anything that has k2, k1, kx1 etc. but doesn't have K3, so I  
tend to just get general mail and K3 stuff (and everything in my trash  
stays there for 7 days anyway).
It also has a pretty good black & white list.
I don't use digests for the reason given by Dave and that Apple Mail  
is brilliant at threading, so after 10 posts on something I don't want  
to read, I just delete the whole lot with one click :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
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On 4 Sep 2008, at 14:23, David Yarnes wrote:

> Deni and All,
>
> I agree with Don.  If your email system allows you to sort your  
> inbound emails, it can really make life much simpler. I use Outlook  
> Express and/or Windows Mail (the Vista version of Outlook Express),  
> which allows me to set up message rules that automatically direct  
> various emails to various separate folders.  There are several ways  
> to sort your messages, so it's pretty flexible.  I simply use the  
> subject line by having the system divert all messages with the  
> "Elecraft" designation go to a separate folder.  That captures all  
> messages coming from the Elecraft reflector.  I get 40 to 50  
> messages a day from the Elecraft reflector (sometimes a lot more),  
> and I can usually dispose of them fairly quickly by then just  
> perusing the subject line for each.  My delete key gets a lot of  
> work, but it goes pretty fast.  The problem I find with getting  
> "digests" is that when you want to respond to a certain message, it  
> becomes a lot more complicated, since not all digests provide a  
> clear method for responding to just that one message you are  
> interested in responding to.  QTH.net is one of those that makes  
> this difficult.  Of course, it would be exponentially more helpful  
> if folks would pay more attention to the subject line, but that's a  
> battle that seems to be more like Don Quixote at the Windmill!  
> Anyway, if you aren't using a method like the one I describe, you  
> might consider at least trying it.
>> For me, the very easiest method is to receive the individual  
>> emails.  I have my mail client sort on "[Elecraft]" in the subject  
>> line and put all that meet the sort criteria into the Elecraft  
>> folder of my Inbox.  So I have the equivalent of 'my own little  
>> digest', but they are individual emails.
>> The messages are all there in my email until I delete them, so I  
>> can respond to any of them - Reply goes to the poster while Reply  
>> All will send it to the poster and the Elecraft list - I can edit  
>> the recipients if that is desired.
>>
>> I find it quicker to use the delete key on the individual messages  
>> that I am not interested in than to wade through a digest format to  
>> find those that I am interested in.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> Deni F5VJC wrote:
>>> This is getting way too complicated.
>>> I have been reading and posting to the Elecraft reflector, list or  
>>> whatever
>>> you call it now since 2000 when I discovered Elecraft and built my  
>>> K2.
>>> Right now with my K3 I'm getting increasingly confused as to the
>>> best/easiest way to view and post messages to the list/forum or  
>>> whatever
>>> it's called now, and as you can see I'm posting from Nabble, the  
>>> only method
>>> that seems to work for me.

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[Deni F5VJC]

Thanks for the comments all.

However I do already receive individual emails and filter then into an
Elecraft folder which has sub folders for K2, K3, and a folderfor any
messages from Eric, Wayne and Lyle (others can be added to this folder),
this is all auto sorted by my own filters.

The problem seems to be for me in posting or replying ( I have a
googlemail address, is this the problem?) My posts don't seem to show up
and I have to go to Nabble to post which does work.

I'm trying this post in fact via my googlemail account to
[hidden email] to see if it shows up, it'a also Ccd. to a
couple of others directly.

If it doesn't show I will post again via Nabble.

I'm looking to simplify my reading and posting to mainly the K3 list and
don't of course want to miss any interesting mail.

73, Deni
F5VJC

David Yarnes wrote:

> Deni and All,
>
> I agree with Don.  If your email system allows you to sort your
> inbound emails, it can really make life much simpler. I use Outlook
> Express and/or Windows Mail (the Vista version of Outlook Express),
> which allows me to set up message rules that automatically direct
> various emails to various separate folders.  There are several ways to
> sort your messages, so it's pretty flexible.  I simply use the subject
> line by having the system divert all messages with the "Elecraft"
> designation go to a separate folder.  That captures all messages
> coming from the Elecraft reflector.  I get 40 to 50 messages a day
> from the Elecraft reflector (sometimes a lot more), and I can usually
> dispose of them fairly quickly by then just perusing the subject line
> for each.  My delete key gets a lot of work, but it goes pretty fast.  
> The problem I find with getting "digests" is that when you want to
> respond to a certain message, it becomes a lot more complicated, since
> not all digests provide a clear method for responding to just that one
> message you are interested in responding to.  QTH.net is one of those
> that makes this difficult.  Of course, it would be exponentially more
> helpful if folks would pay more attention to the subject line, but
> that's a battle that seems to be more like Don Quixote at the
> Windmill!  Anyway, if you aren't using a method like the one I
> describe, you might consider at least trying it.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
> To: "Deni F5VJC" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[Elecraft] ading/Posting to Elecraft list?
>
>
>> Deni,
>>
>> For me, the very easiest method is to receive the individual emails.  
>> I have my mail client sort on "[Elecraft]" in the subject line and
>> put all that meet the sort criteria into the Elecraft folder of my
>> Inbox.  So I have the equivalent of 'my own little digest', but they
>> are individual emails.
>> The messages are all there in my email until I delete them, so I can
>> respond to any of them - Reply goes to the poster while Reply All
>> will send it to the poster and the Elecraft list - I can edit the
>> recipients if that is desired.
>>
>> I find it quicker to use the delete key on the individual messages
>> that I am not interested in than to wade through a digest format to
>> find those that I am interested in.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR

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