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k9sd

Remote tuning knob K3

After Dayton I am going full speed ahead on making a remote tuning knob for the K3
If anyone has done any previous work please let me know..no need to reinvent the wheel..ha

Any ideas ?? In the past I made the Ekletech remote tuning knobs for the Icom and Kenwood radios..this will
be along the same lines..

This radio is just great and with remote tuning knob it will really be great..

Also...I know it can be controlled with software but I want a cable to mine..

Thanks a for reading this and any comments maybe send them off line..

This is a great reflector thanks for letting me be part of it..

Life is good

73/Sam K9SD

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Patrick Skerrett

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

Hi Sam,

You can use a USB knob like the Griffin Powermate:

http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/

And use it to control PowerSDR via the LP-PAN Pandapter & LP-Bridge,
which will then spin the VFO on the K3.

http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html

That will give you a very nice knob like you are looking for, as well as
a real-time panadapter display & full SDR capabilities for your K3.

W9PDS

k9sd wrote:

> After Dayton I am going full speed ahead on making a remote tuning knob for the K3
> If anyone has done any previous work please let me know..no need to reinvent the wheel..ha
>
> Any ideas ?? In the past I made the Ekletech remote tuning knobs for the Icom and Kenwood radios..this will
> be along the same lines..
>
>
> This radio is just great and with remote tuning knob it will really be great..
>
>
> Also...I know it can be controlled with software but I want a cable to mine..
>
>
> Thanks a for reading this and any comments maybe send them off line..
>
>
> This is a great reflector thanks for letting me be part of it..
>
> Life is good
>
>
> 73/Sam K9SD
>
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Greg - AB7R

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

In reply to this post by k9sd

The draw back with this approach is window focus. If you are doing other things
while SDR-IF is running won't you have to first click to get the focus back for the
Griffin knob to work?

-------------------------
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065

On Fri May 8 13:40 , Patrick Skerrett sent:

>Hi Sam,
>
>You can use a USB knob like the Griffin Powermate:
>
>http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/
>
>And use it to control PowerSDR via the LP-PAN Pandapter & LP-Bridge,
>which will then spin the VFO on the K3.
>
>http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
>
>
>
>That will give you a very nice knob like you are looking for, as well as
>a real-time panadapter display & full SDR capabilities for your K3.
>
>
>
>
>W9PDS
>
>
>k9sd wrote:
>> After Dayton I am going full speed ahead on making a remote tuning knob for the

K3
>> If anyone has done any previous work please let me know..no need to reinvent the
wheel..ha
>>
>> Any ideas ?? In the past I made the Ekletech remote tuning knobs for the Icom
and Kenwood radios..this will

>> be along the same lines..
>>
>>
>> This radio is just great and with remote tuning knob it will really be great..
>>
>>
>> Also...I know it can be controlled with software but I want a cable to mine..
>>
>>
>> Thanks a for reading this and any comments maybe send them off line..
>>
>>
>> This is a great reflector thanks for letting me be part of it..
>>
>> Life is good
>>
>>
>> 73/Sam K9SD
>>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

That's the drawback to any approach that uses a PC
based scroll knob.

An external device that would accept the RS-232 input
from a PC (to allow other control software) and would
simply add UP;/DN; (10 Hz steps) or UP4;/DN4; (1 KHz
steps) to the data stream would be rather worthwhile.
Add a couple general purpose inputs that could trigger
specific commands on make and break (e.g., "tune" or
"ATU Tune") and the device would be a real winner.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg - AB7R
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:44 PM
> To: k9sd; Patrick Skerrett
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remote tuning knob K3
>
>
> The draw back with this approach is window focus. If you are
> doing other things
> while SDR-IF is running won't you have to first click to get
> the focus back for the
> Griffin knob to work?
>
> -------------------------
> 73,
> Greg - AB7R
> Whidbey Island WA
> NA-065
>
>
> On Fri May 8 13:40 , Patrick Skerrett sent:
>
> >Hi Sam,
> >
> >You can use a USB knob like the Griffin Powermate:
> >
> >http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/
> >
> >And use it to control PowerSDR via the LP-PAN Pandapter & LP-Bridge,
> >which will then spin the VFO on the K3.
> >
> >http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
> >
> >
> >
> >That will give you a very nice knob like you are looking
> >for, as well as a real-time panadapter display & full SDR
> >capabilities for your K3.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >W9PDS
> >
> >
> >k9sd wrote:
> >> After Dayton I am going full speed ahead on making a remote
> >> tuning knob for th3 K3 If anyone has done any previous work
> >> please let me know..no need to reinvent the wheel..ha
> >>
> >> Any ideas ?? In the past I made the Ekletech remote
> >> tuning knobs for the Icom and Kenwood radios..this will
> >> be along the same lines..
> >>
> >> This radio is just great and with remote tuning knob it
> >> will really be great..
> >>
> >> Also...I know it can be controlled with software but I
> >> want a cable to mine..
> >>
> >> Thanks a for reading this and any comments maybe send them
> >> off line..
> >>
> >> This is a great reflector thanks for letting me be part of it..
> >>
> >> Life is good
> >>
> >> 73/Sam K9SD
> >>

Paul Fletcher

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote

An external device that would accept the RS-232 input
from a PC (to allow other control software) and would
simply add UP;/DN; (10 Hz steps) or UP4;/DN4; (1 KHz
steps) to the data stream would be rather worthwhile.
Add a couple general purpose inputs that could trigger
specific commands on make and break (e.g., "tune" or
"ATU Tune") and the device would be a real winner.

This is fairly easy to do - I have the bulk of the code already written and tested to do this as part of the remote ATU that I'm building (encoder interface, RS232 code, limited K3 command parsing). The code is written in CCS C for a microchip PIC and if you are interested I can send out the code under an open source not for commercial use type of arrangement.

Regards,
Paul M1PAF

Patrick Skerrett

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

In reply to this post by Greg - AB7R

I believe there was a guy, Mike KE4U who has a beta plug-in app for
the Powermate that worked with LP-Bridge instead of the PowerSDR
software. I haven't tried it yet, but if I get ahold of it & get a
chance to try it out, I"ll let you know how it goes. I think the point
of it was to run in the background translating usb signals from the
Powermate to LP-Bridge (and thus to the K3 serial port). You could have
it running then even if PowerSDR were not up.

In any case the Powermate is a really really nice knob. It looks very
sharp (it glows from the base via a neat LED) and has a really nice
spin. It's relatively inexpensive and you don't have to build anything.

73,

W9PDS

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Jack Brindle

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Joe;

This device exists today and has been on the market for several years.
Check out the KRC2 from Elecraft. Not only is it a band decoder, but
it also is a remote controller for the K2 (and by extension, the K3).
If the base factory unit doesn't have the specific command you need,
just ask - it can be customized.

On May 8, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> That's the drawback to any approach that uses a PC
> based scroll knob.
>
> An external device that would accept the RS-232 input
> from a PC (to allow other control software) and would
> simply add UP;/DN; (10 Hz steps) or UP4;/DN4; (1 KHz
> steps) to the data stream would be rather worthwhile.
> Add a couple general purpose inputs that could trigger
> specific commands on make and break (e.g., "tune" or
> "ATU Tune") and the device would be a real winner.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg - AB7R
>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:44 PM
>> To: k9sd; Patrick Skerrett
>> Cc: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remote tuning knob K3
>>
>>
>> The draw back with this approach is window focus. If you are
>> doing other things
>> while SDR-IF is running won't you have to first click to get
>> the focus back for the
>> Griffin knob to work?
>>
>> -------------------------
>> 73,
>> Greg - AB7R
>> Whidbey Island WA
>> NA-065
>>
>>
>> On Fri May 8 13:40 , Patrick Skerrett sent:
>>
>>> Hi Sam,
>>>
>>> You can use a USB knob like the Griffin Powermate:
>>>
>>> http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate/
>>>
>>> And use it to control PowerSDR via the LP-PAN Pandapter & LP-Bridge,
>>> which will then spin the VFO on the K3.
>>>
>>> http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That will give you a very nice knob like you are looking
>>> for, as well as a real-time panadapter display & full SDR
>>> capabilities for your K3.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> W9PDS
>>>
>>>
>>> k9sd wrote:
>>>> After Dayton I am going full speed ahead on making a remote
>>>> tuning knob for th3 K3 If anyone has done any previous work
>>>> please let me know..no need to reinvent the wheel..ha
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas ?? In the past I made the Ekletech remote
>>>> tuning knobs for the Icom and Kenwood radios..this will
>>>> be along the same lines..
>>>>
>>>> This radio is just great and with remote tuning knob it
>>>> will really be great..
>>>>
>>>> Also...I know it can be controlled with software but I
>>>> want a cable to mine..
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a for reading this and any comments maybe send them
>>>> off line..
>>>>
>>>> This is a great reflector thanks for letting me be part of it..
>>>>
>>>> Life is good
>>>>
>>>> 73/Sam K9SD
>>>>
>
>
>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

Jack,

The Griffin knob still requires a PC or something similar. It is a USB
device.
Otherwise, what you say about the KRC2 capabilities is correct.

The real request is for a "POD" similar to that offered by Ten Tec that
places a tuning knob and a few buttons on the desk rather than using the
VFO knob on the transceiver.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jack Brindle wrote:

> Joe;
>
> This device exists today and has been on the market for several years.
> Check out the KRC2 from Elecraft. Not only is it a band decoder, but
> it also is a remote controller for the K2 (and by extension, the K3).
> If the base factory unit doesn't have the specific command you need,
> just ask - it can be customized.
>
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>
>

Jack Brindle

Re: Remote tuning knob K3

In reply to this post by Patrick Skerrett

I believe this to be a very good solution for those wanting to use the
PowerMate. There is a very big problem that this setup solves -
keeping the radio responses from PowerMate commands from getting back
to non-compliant computer applications. There are many computer radio
control apps, including some of the most popular contest apps, that
behave very badly when presented with responses they don't request.
The LP-Bridge acts like a firewall to keep those responses away from
the unsuspecting programs, instead directing them back to the
PowerMate interface application.

And, I agree with you about the PowerMate. I have the silver one. It
works great. Griffin once in a while offers a really cool looking
black one that would go quite well with the K3.

On May 8, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Patrick Skerrett wrote:

> I believe there was a guy, Mike KE4U who has a beta plug-in app for
> the Powermate that worked with LP-Bridge instead of the PowerSDR
> software. I haven't tried it yet, but if I get ahold of it & get a
> chance to try it out, I"ll let you know how it goes. I think the point
> of it was to run in the background translating usb signals from the
> Powermate to LP-Bridge (and thus to the K3 serial port). You could
> have
> it running then even if PowerSDR were not up.
>
> In any case the Powermate is a really really nice knob. It looks very
> sharp (it glows from the base via a neat LED) and has a really nice
> spin. It's relatively inexpensive and you don't have to build
> anything.
>
> 73,
>
> W9PDS
>
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