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Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

Dave, G4AON
Bill

What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use
mine with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound
card. The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY
via a simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way
accessory plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I
also have a K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer
isolated line in and line out sockets.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
--------------------

Does anyone know if there's a Rigblaster or Signalink product
that supports the K3? I'm looking for a plug n' play canned solution
to support the digital modes.

Thanks,
- Bill, KB1PXD
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

Simon (HB9DRV)
The nice thing about an 'all-in-one' solution:

1) Just one USB cable connected to your radio.
2) Very high quality soundcard.
3) Winkeyer built-in.
4) Extra COM ports.
5) Monitor the audio.
6) One chunky cable from the unit to your radio.

End result is a very tidy installation with a high-quality soundcard.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "Dave G4AON" <[hidden email]>
>
> What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use
> mine with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound
> card. The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY
> via a simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way
> accessory plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I
> also have a K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer
> isolated line in and line out sockets.
>
 
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RE: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

wb2ssb
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The external soundcard provided by the SignaLink is very nice, freeing
up the PC soundcard for music, etc ...

That's what I see as the main benefit.  I use two SignaLinks for my
other two, non-Elecraft rigs ... haven't fully integrated my K3 with PC
yet.

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Subject: [Elecraft] Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

Bill

What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use
mine with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound
card. The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY
via a simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way
accessory plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I
also have a K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer
isolated line in and line out sockets.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
--------------------

Does anyone know if there's a Rigblaster or Signalink product
that supports the K3? I'm looking for a plug n' play canned solution
to support the digital modes.

Thanks,
- Bill, KB1PXD
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

KB1PXD
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Hi Dave,
I appreciate your input but as I had said, I'm looking for
canned solution.  Also, my laptop doesn't contain a serial
port so I'd need a USB-->Serial adapter.  (I know, not
a big deal but I'm trying to keep this clean and simple)
I too plan to use DM780 but have no interest in controlling
the K3 (changing freq., etc.) from HRD.  I'm looking for the
simplest solution to support PSK31.  I've read in some older
threads where someone was able to accomplish this by just
a pair of stereo cables and enabling VOX, but based on a recent
thread, there seems to be some question about this configuration
and whether or not it works or is problematic.  Thanks for
your reply.

- Bill

Dave G4AON wrote
Bill

What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use
mine with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound
card. The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY
via a simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way
accessory plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I
also have a K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer
isolated line in and line out sockets.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
--------------------

Does anyone know if there's a Rigblaster or Signalink product
that supports the K3? I'm looking for a plug n' play canned solution
to support the digital modes.

Thanks,
- Bill, KB1PXD
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

KB1PXD
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Thanks Simon.  I couldn't have said it better myself.
Those my sentiments exactly.

- Bill


Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote
The nice thing about an 'all-in-one' solution:

1) Just one USB cable connected to your radio.
2) Very high quality soundcard.
3) Winkeyer built-in.
4) Extra COM ports.
5) Monitor the audio.
6) One chunky cable from the unit to your radio.

End result is a very tidy installation with a high-quality soundcard.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "Dave G4AON" <elecraft@astromag.co.uk>
>
> What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use
> mine with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound
> card. The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY
> via a simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way
> accessory plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I
> also have a K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer
> isolated line in and line out sockets.
>
 
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

Simon (HB9DRV)
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SignaLink USB.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "KB1PXD" <[hidden email]>

>
> I too plan to use DM780 but have no interest in controlling
> the K3 (changing freq., etc.) from HRD.  I'm looking for the
> simplest solution to support PSK31.
>
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

KB1PXD
I'm not certain that they have a solution that fully
supports the K3.  I've sent them email inquiring about this.
I didn't see any solutions on their website that included
the appropriate cable to connect to the K3, but maybe
I missed it.

Thanks,
- Bill



Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote
SignaLink USB.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "KB1PXD" <bill.kimura@gmail.com>

>
> I too plan to use DM780 but have no interest in controlling
> the K3 (changing freq., etc.) from HRD.  I'm looking for the
> simplest solution to support PSK31.
>
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

David Cutter
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Sorry if this has been answered already: presumably, this can also be used
with an SDR rx on the IF?

David
G3UNA


> The nice thing about an 'all-in-one' solution:
>
> 1) Just one USB cable connected to your radio.
> 2) Very high quality soundcard.
> 3) Winkeyer built-in.
> 4) Extra COM ports.
> 5) Monitor the audio.
> 6) One chunky cable from the unit to your radio.
>
> End result is a very tidy installation with a high-quality soundcard.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Dave G4AON" <[hidden email]>
>>
>> What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use mine
>> with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound card.
>> The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY via a
>> simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way accessory
>> plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I also have a
>> K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer isolated line
>> in and line out sockets.
>>
>
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

Simon (HB9DRV)
Not all - they have to be high-spec for this.

You would probably want a dedicated soundcard for SDR anyway, also the newer
SDR radios have a USB interface anyway.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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> Sorry if this has been answered already: presumably, this can also be used
> with an SDR rx on the IF?
 

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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

David Cutter
I had in mind the cheap little add-on kits or even the Elektor rx.

David
G3UNA


> Not all - they have to be high-spec for this.
>
> You would probably want a dedicated soundcard for SDR anyway, also the
> newer SDR radios have a USB interface anyway.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "David Cutter" <[hidden email]>
>
>> Sorry if this has been answered already: presumably, this can also be
>> used with an SDR rx on the IF?
>
>
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

John E. Reiser
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Hi Bill,

You said you are looking for the simplest solution to support PSK31.

I was completely new to digi modes prior to getting my K3 on the air about a
month ago.  I have an  old IBM laptop running XP that has no serial port.
>From posts on e-ham I learned that people were generally happy with the
Keyspan USB to serial adapter, so I ordered one while I was waiting for my
K3 to arrive.  I knew I would need an adapter to do the K3 firmware updates.
I'm sure the KUSB3 offered by Elecraft is eqally competent.

Lyle, KK7P, once posted to this reflecter that all you needed to work PSK31
were two audio cables with 1/8" plugs.  Although I worried a bit at first
because the rear microphone socket is supposed to be "mono", and all that my
Radio Shack had was cables with "sterio" plugs, I tried them anyway.  The
"sterio" cables worked perfectly.  One cable goes from the "line out" on the
K3 to the "mic in" on the laptop.  (My laptop has no "line in" jack.)  The
other cable goes from the "line in" on the K3 to the "headphone out" on the
laptop.  (no line out either)  The DB9 plug from the USB to serial adapter
goes to the DB9 socket on the K3 and handles T/R/switching.  You probably
could use VOX to handle T/R, but the serial port seemed easier and more
positive to me.  It works perfectly.

I use DigiPan for PSK31 and MMTY for RTTY.  The first time you use either
program, you need to configure the COM port and that RTS is to be used for
push to talk.  Also, you need to specify that the Mic line out is turned on
in the K3 CONFIG menu.  I set all the volume controls on the computer
half-way up, and the microphone control almost near the bottom of the scale.
(You can find the mic volume control by invoking
Options/Properties/Recording from the control bar of the Windows volume
control .)  After that it was all smooth sailing for me.

NO INTERFACE IS REQUIRED.

I  use DATA A, set my power out to 25 watts, and my line-out level to 1.  No
AGC bars show on transmit, and my PSK meter indicates -34.  I invariably get
great reports on the quality of my signal.  I prefer PSK31 to RTTY because I
found that I can be effective with low power and thus not come through my
neighbors' audio equipment.  People seem to run high power on RTTY
(needlessly? this wouldn't surprise me being an avid QRPer).

In the past month, starting from 0, I have worked 54 DXCC entities, mostly
on PSK31 with this setup, and I'm having a ball.  As everyone is aware,
during this period, the solar flux index has hovered around 70, and the K
and A indexes have been on the high side, indicationg lots of QRN.  My best
DX so far has been 3B8, Mauritius, and UK0, Asiatic Russia.  My QTH is on
Long Island NY.

As a newcomer to digital modes, one thing still puzzles me.  Sometimes, a
station will come back to me several HZ above where I have called him.  I
have to move to his frequency, by repositioning my arrow on his waterfall
trace so I can decode him.  Then on successive "overs" we seem to walk up
the bandpass a bit.  I don't think it is a problem on my end, because it
doesn't happen with every QSO.  Maybe an experienced digital mode user could
comment.

I hope that sharing my experiences is helpful to you.  Of course, the
specific settings might be different for you since it is unlikely that we
use exactly the same computers and USB/Serial adapters.

73,  John, W2GW
K3 #384


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Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?


>
> Hi Dave,
> I appreciate your input but as I had said, I'm looking for
> canned solution.  Also, my laptop doesn't contain a serial
> port so I'd need a USB-->Serial adapter.  (I know, not
> a big deal but I'm trying to keep this clean and simple)
> I too plan to use DM780 but have no interest in controlling
> the K3 (changing freq., etc.) from HRD.  I'm looking for the
> simplest solution to support PSK31.  I've read in some older
> threads where someone was able to accomplish this by just
> a pair of stereo cables and enabling VOX, but based on a recent
> thread, there seems to be some question about this configuration
> and whether or not it works or is problematic.  Thanks for
> your reply.
>
> - Bill
>
>
> Dave G4AON wrote:
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> What does the K3 lack that a Rigblaster or Signalink provides? I use
>> mine with MMTTY, N1MM logging/CW keying and DM780 straight to a sound
>> card. The TX control in DM780 is via the normal serial cable, in MMTTY
>> via a simple single transistor keying circuit built into the 15 way
>> accessory plug. CW keying from N1MM logging is via the serial lead, I
>> also have a K1EL "Winkey" which works fine too. The K3 has transformer
>> isolated line in and line out sockets.
>>
>> 73 Dave, G4AON
>> K3/100 #80
>> --------------------
>>
>> Does anyone know if there's a Rigblaster or Signalink product
>> that supports the K3? I'm looking for a plug n' play canned solution
>> to support the digital modes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Bill, KB1PXD
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Re: Rigblaster/Signalink for K3?

KK7P
> As a newcomer to digital modes, one thing still puzzles me.  Sometimes,
> a station will come back to me several HZ above where I have called
> him.  I have to move to his frequency, by repositioning my arrow on his
> waterfall trace so I can decode him.  Then on successive "overs" we seem
> to walk up the bandpass a bit...

In this case, since you are using Digipan, click on the Lock Tx Freq
before you the decode to the guy who replied a few Hz away. This way
your Tx freq won't change so you won't "walk" up (or down) the band with
each successive "over."

73,

Lyle KK7P

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