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I agree with Don W3FPR here. I subscribe to several boards like this and I am finding the same thing. The problems hams are having in general have very little to do with the actual product, but how the ham is interfacing with it. It also seems to me that in this board and others like the HRD board, that the majority of reported problems have something to do with the digital modes. I am always amazed that a ham will go out and buy the latest rig, tower, anteannas, and such and try to run it all on a peanut whistle computer. Believe me when I say after spending my life working with computers everyday, there are a bunch of hams who should not be left alone in a room with a computer. 😊
73 OZ W3OZ Mike, I believe if you carefully examine the reports of "hiccups, bumps, and whatever", you will find that many (if not most) of them are the result of computer setup with the various logging and rig control applications that users attempt to set up or use with the K3. Another area of frequent "problem reports" is connections to a digital interface of some sort. These are not K3 problems, but problems users have had setting up and using those applications and accessories and the computer problems which result. The K3 has wisely chosen to 'put its computers' (microprocessors) inside the K3. There are very few real problems with the K3 loaded with production level firmware. There is no dependency on a variety of computers coupled with a variety of operating systems. The Utility programs do need a computer to run, but are normally not needed for other than firmware loads and saving the configuration. The Utility programs do provide several user conveniences for things like loading CW memories more easily than doing it with the K3 alone - use of those added Utility features is optional and is the user's choice. The K3 hardware has been quite solid for a long time now. Yes, there are user questions that come up here frequently that are easily resolved through questions here on the reflector, and yes if you look at the problems that are revealed by those who load beta firmware, you may find some problem reports - but that is what beta firmware is all about, and only those who are willing to try it and report any problems should be using a beta version. 73, Don W3FPR From: Larry Martus Wassmann Non omnis moriar (Not all of me will die) - - - The good I do will live forever. www.w3oz.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 2/10/2014 9:14 AM, Larry Wassmann wrote: > the majority of reported problems have something to do with the digital modes. I am always amazed that a ham will go out and buy the latest rig, tower, anteannas, and such and try to run it all on a peanut whistle computer. Believe me when I say after spending my life working with computers everyday, there are a bunch of hams who should not be left alone in a room with a computer. 😊 REPLY: "Peanut whistle computer"? I've been using digital modes, RTTY and others, since 1993 and I have yet to find a computer that will not run these digital programs satisfactorily. None of the digital modes presently being used by hams demand much of a computer as long as it can run Windows XP or later and has enough com ports. Having said that however, I agree with the very last part of your post. Some people have endless problems with computers and need help with even the simplest things. I have a non-ham friend who calls me about once a week with problems, most of which are repeats of previous calls. He is a smart guy but just has a mental block about computers. Sigh. 73, Bill W6WRT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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When I first saw "peanut whistle," I assumed that Larry was talking
about QRP rigs. Then I re-read what he had written. Maybe not so much today, since a computer has become such an integral part of the hamshack, but there was a time 10 or so years ago that guys would scour the swapmeets and buy some obsolete (to me) computer for the shack. Maybe then it was just to have a computer for logging, but today there are myriad uses for a computer. I say "obsolete to me" because I spent 30+ years as a software developer. During that time, I saw many lay people who should never touch a keyboard. I'm not necessarily talking about the clerical staff, but folks with advanced degrees, as well. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 2/10/2014 11:52 AM, Bill Turner wrote: > ORIGINAL MESSAGE: (may be snipped) > > On 2/10/2014 9:14 AM, Larry Wassmann wrote: >> the majority of reported problems have something to do with the >> digital modes. I am always amazed that a ham will go out and buy the >> latest rig, tower, anteannas, and such and try to run it all on a >> peanut whistle computer. Believe me when I say after spending my life >> working with computers everyday, there are a bunch of hams who should >> not be left alone in a room with a computer. 😊 > > REPLY: > > "Peanut whistle computer"? I've been using digital modes, RTTY and > others, since 1993 and I have yet to find a computer that will not run > these digital programs satisfactorily. None of the digital modes > presently being used by hams demand much of a computer as long as it > can run Windows XP or later and has enough com ports. > > Having said that however, I agree with the very last part of your > post. Some people have endless problems with computers and need help > with even the simplest things. I have a non-ham friend who calls me > about once a week with problems, most of which are repeats of previous > calls. He is a smart guy but just has a mental block about computers. > Sigh. > > 73, Bill W6WRT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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True that all modern ham-digital modes can be decoded on a bare-bones PC.
However its the software suite that provides rig control, spotting, digital modes, logging, propagation, kitchen sink, fast food order status, etc etc etc is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing monster. You add any Panadapter software to this mix and you need a modern gaming machine to keep up. I used to only use a netbook in the shack. Then I needed more horsepower for the software. Now I have a desktop with 2 monitors and I still (at times) need more horsepower. Frank KG6EYC Currently with 2 monitors and /still/ need more desktop real-estate! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I solved the real estate problem.... Bought a 39 inch 4k resolution monitor for less than 500 bucks. Â That plus my 30 rotated vertically takes care of this nicely lol..!Â
-------- Original message -------- From: Frank Precissi <[hidden email]> Date: 10/02/2014 20:27 (GMT-05:00) To: Cc: Elecraft Group <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems True that all modern ham-digital modes can be decoded on a bare-bones PC. However its the software suite that provides rig control, spotting, digital modes, logging, propagation, kitchen sink, fast food order status, etc etc etc is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing monster. You add any Panadapter software to this mix and you need a modern gaming machine to keep up. I used to only use a netbook in the shack. Then I needed more horsepower for the software. Now I have a desktop with 2 monitors and I still (at times) need more horsepower. Frank KG6EYC Currently with 2 monitors and /still/ need more desktop real-estate! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I hate you guys that have room on your desks for those monster monitors! I can just barely fit a pair of ACER 22 inchers and an old Lenovo 15" square (for the P3/SVGA) on mine and have room for everything else I need on the shelf.
Jim, W0EB Sent from my iPad > On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Tom <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I solved the real estate problem.... Bought a 39 inch 4k resolution monitor for less than 500 bucks. That plus my 30 rotated vertically takes care of this nicely lol..! > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Frank Precissi <[hidden email]> > Date: 10/02/2014 20:27 (GMT-05:00) > To: > Cc: Elecraft Group <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Root of problems > > True that all modern ham-digital modes can be decoded on a bare-bones PC. > However its the software suite that provides rig control, spotting, digital > modes, logging, propagation, kitchen sink, fast food order status, etc etc > etc is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing > monster. You add any Panadapter software to this mix and you need a modern > gaming machine to keep up. > > I used to only use a netbook in the shack. Then I needed more horsepower > for the software. Now I have a desktop with 2 monitors and I still (at > times) need more horsepower. > > Frank > KG6EYC > Currently with 2 monitors and /still/ need more desktop real-estate! > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 2/10/2014 5:27 PM, Frank Precissi wrote: > is what makes even a modest computer turn into a chuggy drive-thrashing > monster. REPLY: More RAM will cure most of those problems. Even my ancient HP DC7700, which goes back to the stone age and has only 1 GB RAM, runs fine on all the digital programs. Cost $99 refurbished, including the OS. Right now I am running four separate programs with 14 windows open (active and minimized) including my email program, without a hiccup. Windows 7 Pro. It can be done. 73, Bill W6WRT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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