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In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered people please. Very Best 73's Bob Peters W1PE ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER Money is only temporary, Radio is forever >From The Old Dog ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I've never understood that criticism of the K3 as it simply doesn't hold up to the facts. I have my old 756Pro and my K3 both sitting on the desk in front of me as I write this and I can assure you that the buttons (and half of the knobs) on the Icom are smaller and spaced more closely together than those on the K3. It isn't even close. Make your own scale printouts of the front panel pictures of the two rigs and you'll see what I mean. Whoever told you that did so out of ignorance. Dave AB7E On 8/23/2010 4:12 PM, Bob Peters wrote: > > > In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have > trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered > people please. > > > > Very Best 73's > > Bob Peters > > W1PE > > > > ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER > > > > Money is only temporary, Radio is forever > > > From The Old Dog > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Bob,
If the "fat finger" problem is the same as the excuse for typing errors, then I agree - it should be interpreted as operator error, and has nothing to do with the K3 ergonomics. The buttons are spaced greater than 9/16 inches apart both horizontally and vertically, and that is only 1/16 inch tighter than the standard keyboard I am typing on right now. Fingers would have to be really "FAT" (and flat on the tips) for the K3 buttons to be a problem. Many radios use an even closer button spacing than the K3. One of the old "rules of thumb" that I remember from the "good old days" when doing homebrew panel layouts is that pushbuttons should be spaced at 1/2 inch or greater, and secondary knobs (the small ones) should be placed no closer than 1 inch apart - the K3 button and control spacing is greater than those old suggested minimums. Yes, the K3 front panel is not huge (intentionally so), and some hams just like BIG radio panels. You might want to ask the person who gave you that opinion if he ever operated a K3 - I would tend to believe that he has not. We have heard of many converts to the K3 after guest operators have actually operated with one. 73, Don W3FPR Bob Peters wrote: > > > In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have > trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered > people please. > > > > Very Best 73's > > Bob Peters > > W1PE > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You want poor ergonomics try the FT-2000. The FT-2000 has 2 receivers. Main VFO is to the LEFT of the sub VFO. However the concentric AF/RF controls for each receiver are oriented as follows.....The main RX is to the RIGHT of the sub RX!!!!
Enjoy your wonderful K3 guys George, W6GF --- On Mon, 8/23/10, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION To: "Bob Peters" <[hidden email]> Cc: Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 5:07 PM Bob, If the "fat finger" problem is the same as the excuse for typing errors, then I agree - it should be interpreted as operator error, and has nothing to do with the K3 ergonomics. The buttons are spaced greater than 9/16 inches apart both horizontally and vertically, and that is only 1/16 inch tighter than the standard keyboard I am typing on right now. Fingers would have to be really "FAT" (and flat on the tips) for the K3 buttons to be a problem. Many radios use an even closer button spacing than the K3. One of the old "rules of thumb" that I remember from the "good old days" when doing homebrew panel layouts is that pushbuttons should be spaced at 1/2 inch or greater, and secondary knobs (the small ones) should be placed no closer than 1 inch apart - the K3 button and control spacing is greater than those old suggested minimums. Yes, the K3 front panel is not huge (intentionally so), and some hams just like BIG radio panels. You might want to ask the person who gave you that opinion if he ever operated a K3 - I would tend to believe that he has not. We have heard of many converts to the K3 after guest operators have actually operated with one. 73, Don W3FPR Bob Peters wrote: > > > In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have > trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered > people please. > > > > Very Best 73's > > Bob Peters > > W1PE > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have "big hands" (sounds better than "fat fingers"). No issues. The radio is well designed, with plenty of room to navigate the front panel.
Lou, W0FK
St. Louis, MO
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No problems here.
W0MU On 8/23/2010 10:02 PM, W0FK wrote: > I have "big hands" (sounds better than "fat fingers"). No issues. The radio > is well designed, with plenty of room to navigate the front panel. > > Lou, W0FK > > > Bob Peters wrote: >> >> >> In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers >> have >> trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered >> people please. >> >> >> >> Very Best 73's >> >> Bob Peters >> >> W1PE >> >> >> >> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER >> >> >> >> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever >> >> > From The Old Dog >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > ----- > St. Louis, MO > K3 #2513 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I don't know if I qualify as a "fat fingers" but Extra Large Gloves are a bit
small on me. The only trouble I have with the K3 is that I can't read the red print on the buttons in my normal shack lighting. I upgraded from a TS-850 and did not have a lot of trouble. I am still finding features that I don't know how to use, but that is because there are so many adjustments to accommodate all the preferences. I certainly do not want the K3 to be bigger or heavier. I like being able to put it in a brief case. I do have a TS-480SAT on order because I can't figure out a good way to mount a K3 in my F-150, but that is a different story. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ ________________________________ From: Bob Peters <[hidden email]> To: elecraft <[hidden email]> Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 6:12:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered people please. Very Best 73's Bob Peters W1PE ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER Money is only temporary, Radio is forever >From The Old Dog ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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