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wayne burdick

Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

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Hi all,

I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.

It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.

This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)

Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

Hello Wayne,

I participated 2 Elecraft live sessions, the 1st K4 demo and QA and KX2 3D modeling. Both were really excellent.
I first guessed the K4 demo and QA session was a prepared demonstration plus some QA, but it did not. The demo were as parts of the answer to participants’ questions. It was as if I were watching and listening to an engineer answering questions in front of K4 at Elecraft booth in a convention like Dayton. So, the information provided at the session was very interested and useful.
The KX2 3D modeling session was what I have never seen before. No other radio manufacturers have provided such in depth information on the radio design. The session was more than I expected.

Thank you very much for Providing such nice sessions.

73 de JH3SIF

Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
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> 2020/08/22 8:50、Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>のメール:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.
>
> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.
>
> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)
>
> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
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wayne burdick

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Agreed on all points. OK if I distill this down and share it with Margaret and Eric? (Both Erics, actually.)

Wayne

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> On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Keith Onishi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello Wayne,
>
> I participated 2 Elecraft live sessions, the 1st K4 demo and QA and KX2 3D modeling. Both were really excellent.
> I first guessed the K4 demo and QA session was a prepared demonstration plus some QA, but it did not. The demo were as parts of the answer to participants’ questions. It was as if I were watching and listening to an engineer answering questions in front of K4 at Elecraft booth in a convention like Dayton. So, the information provided at the session was very interested and useful.
> The KX2 3D modeling session was what I have never seen before. No other radio manufacturers have provided such in depth information on the radio design. The session was more than I expected.
>
> Thank you very much for Providing such nice sessions.
>
> 73 de JH3SIF
>
> Kiichiro (Keith) Onishi
> Sent from iPad
>
>> 2020/08/22 8:50、Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>のメール:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.
>>
>> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.
>>
>> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)
>>
>> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Grant Youngman-2

Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

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I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events.

It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-)

Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric’s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them.

I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues.

I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m looking forward to my K4 :-)

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.
>
> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.
>
> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)
>
> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR

Adrian-3

Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

I add to request for the K4 Q&A video if available please ?

The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself.
Would love to see the Q&A ?

Thankyou

Adrian Fewster

On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote:

> I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events.
>
> It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-)
>
> Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric’s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them.
>
> I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues.
>
> I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m looking forward to my K4 :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>
>

Dave Johnson

Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

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I really like the presentation style of both Wayne and Eric. Far better
than the “death by PowerPoint” presentations that I left behind when I
retired nearly 10 years ago.

73 Dave G4AON

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Eric Norris-2

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I really liked ALL of the elecraft presentations, and most of the others.
Wayne's had a particularly intimate feel to it, which was very different,
whereas Eric's was still great, just a more formal, polished approach.
Dave's journey into the classic line was very entertaining.

I am very frustrated that the K4 Q&A hasn't been posted. The FT units are
out there, but we still don't have any idea, really, if the K4 will be the
K400lb elephant in the room, or a really good rig that is just the K point
on a ski jump with a superb user interface. Is it worth two 7610s? Will
PureSignal become a reality soon, or a wish sandwich likeFlex? Is the
promised superb NR and NB going to happen? Why not an informal tour of a
FT unit being used? Show us the operation, not just the features.

Did I hear Eric say the control of a K4 from a tablet, promised at Dayton,
will now be done by some third party through API's provided by Elecraft?

I heard Eric say a lot of "we hope to's in re the K4's Vhf/Uhf board and
other things. I know you can't preannounce future features, but put some
sticks in the ground! Commit to a 2m board--there are many times more 2m
weak-signal ops--and big guns--than 70cm ops.

Finally, there should be a commitment to intelligent fan control for the
KPA1500 while I'm whining. Even QC25s don't quiet the RF deck fans. Other
amps do it.

I thought navigation from the virtual hanfest was terrible--at least from a
smart phone. Why make it an Adventure game? Hyperlink the list of
speakers to their presentation--forget the track rubrick. My voice has
been heard on that issue.

My 2 sheets of lettuce.

73 Eric WD6DBM
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Jay Rutherford-3

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Greetings all,

I only watched Eric and Wayne's presentations, visited the Elecraft booth, and that was about it. I didn't care about prizes or competitions. I found the format initially interesting, but it didn't hold me for other than Elecraft's booth.

I thought Wayne's presentation was personal and detailed. The 3D design of the KX2 was particularly interesting, as was learning about the Sketchup software. Definitely gotta play with that. Although I'll never be in the market for a K4 (KX4 maybe), Eric's talk was informative, well done, and it was nice that it ended at 30 minutes.

Suggestion for improvement: make the presentations, many of which were pre-recorded, available any time. I suspect the technology is able to do that, except for the live questions "phoned" in. It took me a few days to find Wayne's talk on the KX2, as I was busy during the announced times on the weekend.

I MUCH prefer a live event, but given the constraints we are under, think this an acceptable substitute.

73
Jay K3BH
K2, now 20+ years old
KX2
KX3

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, at 19:47, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo,
> especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it.
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Andrew Hebden

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Hi,
I enjoyed the Ham Expo with plenty to see along with presentations from
various vendors. Getting to grips with the navigation was relatively
straight forward although the chat room got a little busy until I realised I
could turn parts of it off. Overall, it was more or less what I expected.
Not too fussed about joining in the kids game of collecting points.

My specific interest was the K4 presentations which Eric made look so easy
with his laid back style. I did get a bit confused with some of the
questions being raised as many were not on the on-line list of questions. I
presumed that they had been raised in advance although at one point I
suspected they had come from the Elecraft chat room. It did not detract me
from enjoying "the show", especially as I had three questions addressed.
Many other queries I had were answered as part of the presentation in a
pleasant straight forward manner.
Your 3D presentation was absolutely fascinating, what more can I say?
I got the impression Scott was caught on the hop but did his best.

Eric Guth was great

Several questions were answered in text mode within the chat box by someone
else. Unfortunately, I had a fleeting glance of one of my questions being
answered before it all disappeared at the end of the presentation. It would
be nice to see the text within the questions list be published alongside
some of the other Q&A sessions. I appreciate that this may be technically
difficult as well as the possibility of the requirement for "plausible
deniability", said with tongue in cheek!

Many thanks for all the effort put in, it made for a pleasant experience
after so long in lockdown.

73 G8BYB
Andrew Hebden

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Subject: [Elecraft] Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

Hi all,

I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially
for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a
chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a
success overall.

It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences,
good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether
Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.

This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo,
including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with
Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)

Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.

Wayne
N6KR

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Hi Wayne,

A thumbs up here. I was disappointed that I couldn’t watch the presentations live with my tablet (still not sure why? Probably cockpit error here!) but the format of leaving the presentations on line is a good idea. I am also disappointed that I missed most the Q&A sessions. The few that I did catch seemed to be as informative as the presentations themselves. It would be nice to have them on line also. I didn’t spend much time in the booth as I already run a K3s/KPA1500 and don’t need to even think of the K4 in the short term :-).

73,
Bill WE5P

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> On Aug 22, 2020, at 07:19, Jay Rutherford <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> I only watched Eric and Wayne's presentations, visited the Elecraft booth, and that was about it. I didn't care about prizes or competitions. I found the format initially interesting, but it didn't hold me for other than Elecraft's booth.
>
> I thought Wayne's presentation was personal and detailed. The 3D design of the KX2 was particularly interesting, as was learning about the Sketchup software. Definitely gotta play with that. Although I'll never be in the market for a K4 (KX4 maybe), Eric's talk was informative, well done, and it was nice that it ended at 30 minutes.
>
> Suggestion for improvement: make the presentations, many of which were pre-recorded, available any time. I suspect the technology is able to do that, except for the live questions "phoned" in. It took me a few days to find Wayne's talk on the KX2, as I was busy during the announced times on the weekend.
>
> I MUCH prefer a live event, but given the constraints we are under, think this an acceptable substitute.
>
> 73
> Jay K3BH
> K2, now 20+ years old
> KX2
> KX3
>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, at 19:47, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo,
>> especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it.
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Dave wo2x

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The event was free and enjoyable. Being able to interact via chat with reps
from different companies was a great idea. The prerecorded presentations
were for the most part great.

The site navigation needs to be improved, especially on an iPad. The text
chat on the iPad had the last line of text in a long chat obscured by the
text entry window where you enter your own text. Also default view of a
booth did not show the navigation bar underneath. You needed to take your
finger and drag the window down to see it. The Chat button should be more
prominent and not all the way to the right. These are things that can be
fixed for next time.

Again, in the crazy world we live in now it was enjoyable to have some time
to take our mind away to better thoughts (buying a new radio or amp).

Dave wo2x

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N9YB

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I appreciate your asking for public feedback first and foremost.

The event was well done given it was its inaugural occurrence. Wasn't a fan that the prize system could be so easily gamed. My suggestion that attendees perform some number of requisite activities to then be entered in a random drawing for the prizes. Keeps those from creating bots or "just passing through for the points" at bay.

I very much enjoyed the K4 presentation as well as the 3D KX3 presentation. I especially liked the "layered" approach to the K4 content. The prepared video followed by a live Zoom session with Eric. I makes sense to do the overview in a prepared format. My suggestion for next time is to add a FAQ section to the end of the overview to demonstrate close up and with detailed explanations as to the key features and functions you want to highlight. The hope would be to remove those questions from the interactive session by dealing with them in advance.

The Zoom session was simply outstanding. Not just for the generosity of Eric's time as he took all questions asked, but his willing to be straight up and forthright regarding the 1st round of K4 shipments. That built a lot of trust with me. The only thing I would change would be to have the camera that was positioned to present the hands on demonstrations in a better spot to get a better view of the "button pushing" in action.

I also liked that the Elecraft chat room always had several persons readily available to answer questions. In some chat rooms, you had one person constantly getting bombarded by attendees with questions and they couldn't keep up. Each rep highlighted their expertise (classic lines, KX, amps) in their descriptions so you could direct you questions to the person best suited to provide an answer. That alone made the process of getting questions answered easier and was a very thoughtful touch.

Overall, great job. Best 73 as I save for my K4.....

Mike
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Bill Frantz

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[I sent this privately to Wayne, but people on the list may like it.]

I tried to express my feelings about the expo in their feedback
survey. Perhaps prose will work better.

I enjoyed it, but I hated not being able to pause presentations
or pick them up later.* Online from home isn't the same as in a
hall. People come to the door. The phone rings. You name it.

What I would like is something to handle these problems AND fix
some of the problems with inperson expos. The big problem I see
at inperson expos have is conflicting sessions.

If all the sessions were available at the beginning, and the Q&A
were scheduled later, attendees could listen to the presentation
at their convenience and then show up for the Q&A if they wanted
to. The Q&A should be recorded and made available ASAP so
someone missing the Q&A could at least hear other people's interactions.

I never found a way to make casual contact with old friends. At
inperson expos, I work mostly by facial recognition, carefully
reading the badge to help recall the name. Being somewhat shy, I
generally try to lurk in the background. The online format just
didn't work for me.

As for the exhibitors, what I get mostly our of inperson expos
is the ability to see things "in the flesh". "Oh my, that KX2 is
really tiny. Time to get serious about SOTA" kinda thing. That,
learning about things I didn't know existed, and buying
connectors etc. from the vendors are the reasons I visit the
vendors. Oh yes, and saying Hi to old friends like the people
from Elecraft.

73 Bill AE6JV

* I fixed this problem by reading the HTML of the page and
finding the uTube link to the presentation. My inner computer
hacker come out.

On 8/21/20 at 7:47 PM, [hidden email] (Wayne Burdick) wrote:

>I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham
>Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to
>make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next
>March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.
>
>It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your
>experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos
>are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to
>the event as a whole.
>
>This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on
>the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let
>my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's
>pure teflon.)

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John Reilly-3

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I thought an overall problem was you couldn't enter a presentation until
the exact time it started. I think they should have a "buffer" time, say
5 minutes, where you can enter and wait for the presentation to begin.

Second, I didn't care for how the questions were presented. At all of
the presentations, the questions managers started at the top, and worked
their way through all of the questions, one by one. In a lot of cases
the questions were duplicates and had already been answered. It would be
nice if after the presentation, someone would go through the remaining
questions and try to answer them, and post the results. Maybe 30 minutes
is too short for questions about popular topics (like the K4).

- 73, John, N0TA
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Hi Adrian,

We’re waiting for the recording K4 Q&A video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page.

I’ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q&A sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth.

73,
Eric
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> On Aug 21, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Adrian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I add to request for the K4 Q&A video if available please ?
>
> The expo revealed some great K4 features previously unknown to myself. Would love to see the Q&A ?
>
>
> Thankyou
>
> Adrian Fewster
>
>
>
>> On 22/8/20 12:32 pm, Grant Youngman wrote:
>> I thought the Expo was excellent overall. I visited all of the booths, and watched maybe 80% of the presentations, both during the live event and afterwards. Couldn’t have cared less about trying to earn points and winning a prize. And of course the Elecraft events.
>>
>> It was unique. And except for not having a BA boneyard to wander through and take too much of my money, the best fest I attended this summer. Well, it was the ONLY fest I attended :-)
>>
>> Your presentation on the 3D KX2 design, was thoroughly enjoyable and very interesting. Eric’s appearances— all three of the them — on the K4, were informative. I do wish the Q&A after Eric’s official Expo presentation had been posted to the web, and perhaps more so, both of the extended 90 minute Q&Aa on the K4. I learned something new in each of them.
>>
>> I had some issues with the expo software itself, which I referred to the organizers as feedback in the questionnaire I received afterwards. But they were largely minor, and mostly just navigation issues.
>>
>> I’m looking forward to the coming one of these next year. Mostly, I’m looking forward to my K4 :-)
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 1:48 PM Eric Swartz <[hidden email]> wrote:
> We’re waiting for the recording K4 Q&A video that followed my show talk. the show recorded that one. When we receive it we will put it up on the Elecraft YouTube page.
>
> I’ll also check to see if we have the recordings from our various Demo/Q&A sessions, including the K4 sessions, that we held at our virtual booth.
I pretty much agree with what was said already. I did find the trick
to watch the presentations at a different time and full screen. I am
eagerly awaiting the recorded Q&A sessions. I couldn't see them all at
the time.

I'm a semi-retired engineer and I've used lots of CAD programs, both
electrical and mechanical. It was still very interesting to see how
you did things with Sketchup Pro. No other supplier has come anywhere
close to showing how their engineering process works. It was really
interesting to see how you got a balance between free and not
functional enough and the big iron stuff that is thousands per seat
per year. I am still a little annoyed with them for making what was a
free program not free, but I guess you get over it if it meets your
needs, technically and financially. I've really enjoyed my
communications with all of you, including the developers and engineers
on the forums. I've never gotten a tour and demo by the company owner
any other place!

73,

Mark
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Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

I had to do 2 presentations.

The Q and A was really good I thought and well managed when you consider
over 26,000 people registered and about 1/2 of those showed up on Saturday,
just like a normal Hamfest.

But, yes, I have a list of things I would like to see changed for the one
in March.

73, Mike va3mw
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While I enjoyed the Virtual Ham Expo, there were some aspects I thought
could be improved. I sent this feedback to Eric Guth via the feedback
survey I received not long after the Expo closed.

* Like everyone else who has responded so far, I enjoyed Eric's demo
of the K4. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the K4 kits so
I can order and build mine. I'm even getting my work area prepared
already, for something I know is still probably 6-8 months out.
* I really liked Wayne's presentation on the architecture of the KX3.
It was really neat to have the chief designer of the product show
us, component-by-component, how it was designed.
* The gamification of the door prizes needs to go away. As has been
said here before, and I'm sure to Eric G., ad nauseum - it penalizes
those who actually want to enjoy the presentations and those who
can't spend all 48 hours of the Expo going to the vendors' booths
and the on-line lounge. And, it only encourages bad behavior, as the
Expo organizers quickly discovered.
* Users should be able to enter the presentations a few minutes early.
By only allowing us to enter at the exact moment the forum started,
it was possible to miss part of the presentation due to latency or
other technical issues.
* Since all the initial presentations were prerecorded, they should be
available for viewing any time after the initial presentation is
given. Nobody is good enough to be in multiple places at once, even
virtually. And, some very good presentations overlapped with each other.
* Check the videos for quality well before the Expo begins. I attended
the Carole Perry Youth Forum, because two of the presenters belong
to my radio club. Carole's intro was well worth the time, but she
was so animated in her speaking style that her web cam kept trying
to refocus. I was getting motion sick from it.
* The vendor area should be more than just links to the vendors' web
sites. If that's all you're giving me, aside from the chat, why
should I bother using the vendor area? I can just go to the web
sites myself.
* The vendor area needs to be easier to navigate. The button to exit
each booth to the "hallway" outside the booth was not prominent
enough. I didn't even know it was there until the end of the day
Saturday. I kept ending up back at the "front door" to the vendor arena.

All this being said, I think it was a good first run for a new concept
in hamfests. The presentations I did attend were informative, even if
some of the videos weren't of the highest quality. This may be a good
option to add to traditional hamfests, when the pandemic clears and we
can go back to doing things in person. I don't see this as a replacement
for traditional hamfests, but it would be nice if I could see one or two
forums from Dayton, say, even if I don't have the money or time to go to
Ohio for the fun and games myself.

73 de,

Ian, NV4C

On 8/21/20 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.
>
> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.
>
> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)
>
> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
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Re: Seeking comments on Ham Expo from participants

As far as my visit to the virtual hamfest, all I know is I miss the good old days already.

John K7FD

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Ian Kahn, NV4C <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> While I enjoyed the Virtual Ham Expo, there were some aspects I thought could be improved. I sent this feedback to Eric Guth via the feedback survey I received not long after the Expo closed.
>
> * Like everyone else who has responded so far, I enjoyed Eric's demo
> of the K4. I am eagerly awaiting the availability of the K4 kits so
> I can order and build mine. I'm even getting my work area prepared
> already, for something I know is still probably 6-8 months out.
> * I really liked Wayne's presentation on the architecture of the KX3.
> It was really neat to have the chief designer of the product show
> us, component-by-component, how it was designed.
> * The gamification of the door prizes needs to go away. As has been
> said here before, and I'm sure to Eric G., ad nauseum - it penalizes
> those who actually want to enjoy the presentations and those who
> can't spend all 48 hours of the Expo going to the vendors' booths
> and the on-line lounge. And, it only encourages bad behavior, as the
> Expo organizers quickly discovered.
> * Users should be able to enter the presentations a few minutes early.
> By only allowing us to enter at the exact moment the forum started,
> it was possible to miss part of the presentation due to latency or
> other technical issues.
> * Since all the initial presentations were prerecorded, they should be
> available for viewing any time after the initial presentation is
> given. Nobody is good enough to be in multiple places at once, even
> virtually. And, some very good presentations overlapped with each other.
> * Check the videos for quality well before the Expo begins. I attended
> the Carole Perry Youth Forum, because two of the presenters belong
> to my radio club. Carole's intro was well worth the time, but she
> was so animated in her speaking style that her web cam kept trying
> to refocus. I was getting motion sick from it.
> * The vendor area should be more than just links to the vendors' web
> sites. If that's all you're giving me, aside from the chat, why
> should I bother using the vendor area? I can just go to the web
> sites myself.
> * The vendor area needs to be easier to navigate. The button to exit
> each booth to the "hallway" outside the booth was not prominent
> enough. I didn't even know it was there until the end of the day
> Saturday. I kept ending up back at the "front door" to the vendor arena.
>
> All this being said, I think it was a good first run for a new concept in hamfests. The presentations I did attend were informative, even if some of the videos weren't of the highest quality. This may be a good option to add to traditional hamfests, when the pandemic clears and we can go back to doing things in person. I don't see this as a replacement for traditional hamfests, but it would be nice if I could see one or two forums from Dayton, say, even if I don't have the money or time to go to Ohio for the fun and games myself.
>
> 73 de,
>
> Ian, NV4C
>
>
>> On 8/21/20 7:47 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to write up a summary of the recent [virtual] Ham Expo, especially for the benefit of those who weren't able to make it. Perhaps they'll get a chance later this year or next March -- both likely, as the Expo was quite a success overall.
>>
>> It was, shall we say, unique...I'd love to hear about your experiences, good, bad, or in-between. Ideas for future expos are also welcome, whether Elecraft-specific or applicable to the event as a whole.
>>
>> This feedback will also be invaluable for the team that put on the expo, including my good friend Eric Guth, 4Z1UG. (Don't let my acquaintance with Eric inhibit your free expression...he's pure teflon.)
>>
>> Thanks again to all who dropped by our booth.
>>
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>>
>>
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