Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3
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Isn't there a way to send sequential serial numbers with the K3, or is that my imagination? I could have sworn I came across that feature while exploring the K3...
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I send sequential numbers on CW and RTTY using N1MM and the K3. I do
not know of a way to do this without a computer. I have not heard of a simple way to do this on voice. It would help if we knew what mode you were asking about. Dave Wilburn NM4M Tom-N2YTF wrote: > Isn't there a way to send sequential serial numbers with the K3, or is that > my imagination? I could have sworn I came across that feature while > exploring the K3... > > 73, > Tom-N2YTF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3
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This is a feature of my Idiom Press CMOS keyer; it's part of the published
WinKey command set, but to my knowledge serial numbers are not supported by the K3 internal keyer. For most users transmitting the serial number (and other repetitive parts of the exchange) is accomplished with an external logging program running on a computer, e.g., N1MM, Win-Test, WriteLog, CT, TRLOG, etc. If you're doing more than a really casual entry in a contest, you'd probably be using a computer program for logging, and the logging programs all offer some mechanism to key the radio. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Wilburn Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3 I send sequential numbers on CW and RTTY using N1MM and the K3. I do not know of a way to do this without a computer. I have not heard of a simple way to do this on voice. It would help if we knew what mode you were asking about. Dave Wilburn NM4M Tom-N2YTF wrote: > Isn't there a way to send sequential serial numbers with the K3, or is that > my imagination? I could have sworn I came across that feature while > exploring the K3... > > 73, > Tom-N2YTF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I really wanted a way to do this with the built in CW memory keyer without a computer on CW. I could have sworn I saw a way to do it.
It would be great if there was a macro you could insert into a cw memory that sent incremental numbers....for example, store
XXX 5NN TU de N2YTF
In M4 and have the K3 automatically send
001 5NN TU de N2YTF
and the next time M4 is sent-
002 5NN TU de N2YTF
73 and thanks for the response,
Tom
From: David Wilburn (via Nabble) <[hidden email]> To: Tom-N2YTF <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:23:29 PM Subject: Re: Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3 I send sequential numbers on CW and RTTY using N1MM and the K3. I do not know of a way to do this without a computer. I have not heard of a simple way to do this on voice. It would help if we knew what mode you were asking about. Dave Wilburn NM4M Tom-N2YTF wrote: > Isn't there a way to send sequential serial numbers with the K3, or is that > my imagination? I could have sworn I came across that feature while > exploring the K3... > > 73, > Tom-N2YTF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@... This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/Sending-sequential-serial-numbers-with-the-K3-tp2998760p2999059.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. |
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In a recent message, Tom-N2YTF <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>It would be great if there was a macro you could insert into a cw >memory that sent incremental numbers....for example, store >XXX 5NN TU de N2YTF >In M4 and have the K3 automatically send >001 5NN TU de N2YTF and the next time M4 is sent- 002 5NN TU de N2YTF This is not 'great' at all, Tom. What if the station is not 5NN? Not all signals are RST599 at my QTH. What you really need is a means for the K3 to decode the readability, signal strength (from the S-meter) and tone of the signal and be able to send those, together with a sequential serial number, either in full numerals or shortened numerals. Surely that is not beyond the capabilities of the Aptos developers? 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Everyone is 59(9) in a contest. There are keyers out there that
handle serial numbers. As one example; http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html I am sure there are more. Signal reports only have relative value, especially in a contest. The fact that a contest station down the street with stacked beams and multiple towers can pick you up 599 +20dB, is no indicator that my low dipole can pick you up. It is as they say, all relative. 73 es gud DX Dave Wilburn NM4M David Pratt wrote: > In a recent message, Tom-N2YTF <[hidden email]> wrote ... >> It would be great if there was a macro you could insert into a cw >> memory that sent incremental numbers....for example, store > >> XXX 5NN TU de N2YTF > >> In M4 and have the K3 automatically send > >> 001 5NN TU de N2YTF > > and the next time M4 is sent- > > 002 5NN TU de N2YTF > > This is not 'great' at all, Tom. What if the station is not 5NN? Not all > signals are RST599 at my QTH. What you really need is a means for the > K3 to decode the readability, signal strength (from the S-meter) and > tone of the signal and be able to send those, together with a sequential > serial number, either in full numerals or shortened numerals. Surely > that is not beyond the capabilities of the Aptos developers? > > 73 Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Don't all the mainstream contest logging software packages support
sequential serial number generation that precludes the need to generate them in a keyer either outboard or in a radio? 73 Phil NA4M David Wilburn wrote: > Everyone is 59(9) in a contest. There are keyers out there that > handle serial numbers. As one example; > http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html > > I am sure there are more. > > Signal reports only have relative value, especially in a contest. The > fact that a contest station down the street with stacked beams and > multiple towers can pick you up 599 +20dB, is no indicator that my low > dipole can pick you up. > > It is as they say, all relative. > > 73 es gud DX > > Dave Wilburn > NM4M > > David Pratt wrote: >> In a recent message, Tom-N2YTF <[hidden email]> wrote ... >>> It would be great if there was a macro you could insert into a cw >>> memory that sent incremental numbers....for example, store >>> XXX 5NN TU de N2YTF >>> In M4 and have the K3 automatically send >>> 001 5NN TU de N2YTF >> and the next time M4 is sent- >> >> 002 5NN TU de N2YTF >> >> This is not 'great' at all, Tom. What if the station is not 5NN? Not all >> signals are RST599 at my QTH. What you really need is a means for the >> K3 to decode the readability, signal strength (from the S-meter) and >> tone of the signal and be able to send those, together with a sequential >> serial number, either in full numerals or shortened numerals. Surely >> that is not beyond the capabilities of the Aptos developers? >> >> 73 > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- -. .- ....- -- -. .- ....- -- -. .- ....- -- Phil Duff NA4M & Ann Duff Georgetown, Texas http://priceless.apduff.com http://stockphoto.apduff.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Phil Duff NA4M & Ann Duff wrote:
> Don't all the mainstream contest logging software packages support > sequential serial number generation that precludes the need to generate > them in a keyer either outboard or in a radio? > > 73 Phil NA4M > > > Yes. I've got the Logikey K3 and it'll do everything but cook you're breakfast. Never used it in a contest as the computer/K1EL winkeyer/software combo does the keying. -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless,
Dave? I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified. Those were the good old days. Since then the world has gone mad. If everyone is 599, why not just "NR 001" etc ? I have to admit that on the rare occasions I work contest stations my reports are not always 5NN. They could be 5DN or even 5BN. 73 David In a recent message, David Wilburn <[hidden email]> writes > >Everyone is 59(9) in a contest. There are keyers out there that >handle serial numbers. As one example; >http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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David Pratt wrote: > So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, > Dave? It serves as a marker in the exchange - when you hear that "..... -. -." or "fi-ni", you know that what's coming next is the stuff you need to copy and log. Also, isn't an exchange of signal reports traditionally considered a qualifier of a valid contact? Why do DXpeditions do it? Everyone's 59[9] then too... > I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work > in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of > the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting > tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified. Those were the good old > days. Since then the world has gone mad. I'm too young to remember the sane world :) ~Iain / N6ML ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ah, yes, the days of the surplus tank radios! Doug W6JD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain MacDonnell - N6ML" <[hidden email]> To: "David Pratt" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 3:11:40 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3 David Pratt wrote: > So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, > Dave? It serves as a marker in the exchange - when you hear that "..... -. -." or "fi-ni", you know that what's coming next is the stuff you need to copy and log. Also, isn't an exchange of signal reports traditionally considered a qualifier of a valid contact? Why do DXpeditions do it? Everyone's 59[9] then too... > I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work > in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of > the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting > tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified. Those were the good old > days. Since then the world has gone mad. I'm too young to remember the sane world :) ~Iain / N6ML ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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As a less experienced CW operator, the various portions of the
exchange (especially during the more complicated exchanges) act as "markers" so I know what to listen for next. In that sense it is more important than a signal report. The signal report is a standard, a tradition. That being said, there are variations that of propagation, local noise, QRN and QRM that limit its value. But this is the fun that is ham radio. If you want to contest, there are contests. If you want to chase DX, you can do that. If you want to rag chew, there is plenty of that going on. Ham radio means different things to different people, and even different things to the same people, at different times in their life. It is a pretty impressive hobby. 73, did not mean to stir things up. Stay well, stay safe. Dave Wilburn NM4M David Pratt wrote: > So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, > Dave? I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work > in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of > the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting > tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified. Those were the good old > days. Since then the world has gone mad. > > If everyone is 599, why not just "NR 001" etc ? I have to admit that on > the rare occasions I work contest stations my reports are not always > 5NN. They could be 5DN or even 5BN. > > 73 > > David > > In a recent message, David Wilburn <[hidden email]> writes >> Everyone is 59(9) in a contest. There are keyers out there that >> handle serial numbers. As one example; >> http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I bother with a signal report because the contest rules often require "a
signal report" as part of the contest exchange (as distinct from a "meaningful" or "accurate" signal report). If the contest rules didn't require a signal report (such as ARRL Sweepstakes rules), no signal report is sent. Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:31 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Sending sequential serial numbers with the K3 So why bother with sending reports in contests if they are meaningless, Dave? I remember as a new young licensee in the 1950s we used to work in contests to get reports to see how well we were getting out. One of the contest rules of the day was that any station consistently getting tone reports less that 9 could be disqualified. Those were the good old days. Since then the world has gone mad. If everyone is 599, why not just "NR 001" etc ? I have to admit that on the rare occasions I work contest stations my reports are not always 5NN. They could be 5DN or even 5BN. 73 David In a recent message, David Wilburn <[hidden email]> writes > >Everyone is 59(9) in a contest. There are keyers out there that >handle serial numbers. As one example; >http://www.idiompress.com/K5.html -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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