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W1KSZ
Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was
manufactured
and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?

If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
helpful in determining a price.

Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: Serial Number Update Status

Mike Reublin
Dick -

IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.

73, Mike NF4L

On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
> and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
>
> If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
> helpful in determining a price.
>
> Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: Serial Number Update Status

Gary Smith-2
That is true. My K3 I assembled in 08 was brought up to today's K3
standards when it was cared for by Elecraft 2 months ago. I asked for
and had all the upgrades/updates done to it and it was very
reasonable and yes, I definitely hear a difference in cw reception
thanks to these changes.


73,

Gary
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> Dick -
>
> IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
> > and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
> >
> > If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
> > helpful in determining a price.
> >
> > Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: Serial Number Update Status

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Just for information, I ordered a K3 at the end of January 2014 and my serial number was within 10 units of 8000. I love it!!!  73s.  Len Nagorski. WA0OQW

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> On Feb 28, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Gary Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That is true. My K3 I assembled in 08 was brought up to today's K3
> standards when it was cared for by Elecraft 2 months ago. I asked for
> and had all the upgrades/updates done to it and it was very
> reasonable and yes, I definitely hear a difference in cw reception
> thanks to these changes.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>
>> Dick -
>>
>> IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
>>> and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
>>>
>>> If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
>>> helpful in determining a price.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: Serial Number Update Status

Gary Gregory-2
January, 2008, serial number 679 and it aint going anywhere soon...:-)

Gary


On 1 March 2014 09:33, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Just for information, I ordered a K3 at the end of January 2014 and my
> serial number was within 10 units of 8000. I love it!!!  73s.  Len
> Nagorski. WA0OQW
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 28, 2014, at 5:12 PM, "Gary Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > That is true. My K3 I assembled in 08 was brought up to today's K3
> > standards when it was cared for by Elecraft 2 months ago. I asked for
> > and had all the upgrades/updates done to it and it was very
> > reasonable and yes, I definitely hear a difference in cw reception
> > thanks to these changes.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Gary
> > KA1J
> >
> >
> >> Dick -
> >>
> >> IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial
> number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production
> standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
> >>
> >> 73, Mike NF4L
> >>
> >>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was
> manufactured
> >>> and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
> >>>
> >>> If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
> >>> helpful in determining a price.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: Serial Number Update Status

Matt Zilmer-3
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Just to back Mike up on his remark, I own K3 s/n 24 and have all the
mods installed as well as up to date firmware.  AFAIK, this K3 is
roughly equal to all others that are up to date.

73,
matt W6NIA


On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:03:36 -0500, you wrote:

>Dick -
>
>IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
>
>73, Mike NF4L
>
>On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
>> and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
>>
>> If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
>> helpful in determining a price.
>>
>> Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: Serial Number Update Status

Don Wilhelm-4
I can also add backup to that as well - I have K3 SN 20 fully upgraded.
It may not be relevant to the initial question, but the same thing
applies to the K2 - yes, there was a borad change at SN 3000, but
upgrade kits were available at modest cost to bring the older board up
to the same level except for minor and inconsequential differences.  The
K2 upgrades continued through about SN 4660 and after that no further
upgrades were made.  The result is that even the lowest K2 serial number
can perform just like a brand new K2 thanks to the way Elecraft has
handled upgrades.  If you would like to compare my SN 20 K2 against a
brand new K2, just come over to my workbench - I can show you that the
performance is equal.

No model number changes that require you to purchase a new transceiver
to get the benefits of the change - just get the upgrade kit and install
it and you have a new and improved transceiver.
It is just the way Elecraft does business.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2014 7:47 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

> Just to back Mike up on his remark, I own K3 s/n 24 and have all the
> mods installed as well as up to date firmware.  AFAIK, this K3 is
> roughly equal to all others that are up to date.
>
> 73,
> matt W6NIA
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:03:36 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> Dick -
>>
>> IMO, not as useful as you might expect being that an early serial number is fairly likely to have been brought up to current production standards. That's unique to Elecraft as far as I know.
>>
>> 73, Mike NF4L
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to tell from the Serial Number when the unit was manufactured
>>> and if there were any upgrades or mods made after that S/N ?
>>>
>>> If one is looking at buying a used K3 or KPA500 then that info would be
>>> helpful in determining a price.
>>>
>>>

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Re: Serial Number Update Status

Gary Smith-2
FWIW,

When I was choosing which rig to get, to upgrade from my TenTec Omni
V, I wanted a radio that was going to be on the top of its game as
long as there were parts available for it. I considered all the rigs
available at the time and it was a close draw between the Orion & the
K3. I eliminated the Asian rigs because of the extremely high cost
and because there were problems that were seemingly eternal that the
only fix was a new model and retiring the old one.

The Orion was and still is a really fine radio but there were a lack
of updates to the software that for whatever reason, left their
owners complaining and the solution never being made available. At
the same time the K3 was seeing updates seemingly every month if not
sooner and it was obvious Elecraft was trying to resolve every valid
issue that it could.

The Orion ran into issues with end of life components that could not
be obtained and an Orion II was released. I'd decided to go with
Elecraft, another US company and I felt badly not going with TenTec
but to my impression, Elecraft was delivering and TenTec was not.

As it is today, I made the right choice; The Orion is no longer in
production (which is a shame because it was a really nice radio) and
the K3 is in production and Elecraft will make all of them as-new for
a modest investment. No way I could afford to buy a new rig every
couple of years but in the K3 I have a rig I am familiar with and it
is newer and improved, just like buying a new & upgraded radio but
one I don't have to learn about or the location/functions of buttons
anew as a new rig would demand.

Would I like a newer serial #? Absolutely but only from the
standpoint that people equate a higher serial with a better radio.
With this upgraded/updated K3, it is exactly the same as a new one.
When Elecraft comes up with a new update/upgrade, I'll be right there
to buy that and keep my rig "brand new". What other manufacturer does
that other than Elecraft?

They have my business from now on.

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