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Serious foot switches

Ken Kopp-3
Footswitches that are -very- durable can be found
in the machine tool industry.  I have one fitted to
my drill press, for example.  I have a friend who has
one on a grinder.

GE two-way radio catalogs may still list them.  They
are/were "serious", and are found in Forest Service,
FBI and law enforcement dispatch centers.
 
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: Serious foot switches

Ed Muns, W0YK
> Footswitches that are -very- durable can be found in the
> machine tool industry.  I have one fitted to my drill press,
> for example.  I have a friend who has one on a grinder.
>
> GE two-way radio catalogs may still list them.  They are/were
> "serious", and are found in Forest Service, FBI and law
> enforcement dispatch centers.

These Linemaster footswitches are continually listed on eBay, both with the
foot guards and without.  Many are ones taken out of service, but some are
new-in-the-box.  They can be had for under $10 plus shipping.  While they
will probably last indefinitely in a Ham environment, I find them more
tiring than the footswitch distributed by Heil.  I've used the Heil
footswitches for over three decades now, at home and on contest expeditions,
with no failures.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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Re: Serious foot switches

Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
Ed Muns wrote:
> environment, I find them more tiring than the footswitch distributed
> by Heil.  I've used the Heil footswitches for over three decades now,
> at home and on contest expeditions, with no failures.

Two "secrets" (?) I've learned through trial and error when using the Heil
footswitch:

(1) Attach the foot switch to the floor and route the cable safely away so it
isn't being kicked and flexed all the time. The cable will break internally,
eventually, if continually thus abused.

(2) Place your foot on the switch such that the center of your heel is
directly over the pivot point. This maximizes mechanical efficiency and, for
me at least, allows me to hold my foot in either the activated or unactivated
position without tiring.

Having said all this, I've had to repair my Heil foot switch numerous times.
The little "e" ring that holds the pivot axle in has a habit of coming off
spontaneously (I completely lost it a while back), and I've had to cut off,
restrip, and reinstall the cable a couple times as well due to internal wire
breakage. It's far from bulletproof, but for the price, it's been an
acceptable product, I guess. Could be better. :-)

Bill W5WVO

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Re: Serious foot switches

Barry N1EU

Bill W5WVO wrote
 I've had to repair my Heil foot switch numerous times.
The little "e" ring that holds the pivot axle in has a habit of coming off
spontaneously (I completely lost it a while back)
Your description does not match the pivot hardware in my two Heil foot switches.  So it seems that Heil has gone through a few designs of the pivot mechanism.

The pivot mechanism in my foot switches consists entirely of a single pivot screw that is threaded on the end with an unthreaded shoulder up toward the screw head.  So the pivot screw becomes fixed with the inner half of the (threaded) clamshell and rotates freely around the outer half of the (unthreaded) clamshell.  The threads eventually fail and the pivot screws keeps loosening and falling out.  The kludge fix is to discard the pivot screws, drill out the holes, and use a single long machine screw as the pivot axis and secure it on the far end with a nylock nut.

Evidently other Heil designs may be more reliable.  Mine were purchased 5-7 years ago and started to fail about two years later.  Lots of use during ssb contests.

73,
Barry N1EU
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Re: Serious foot switches

WILLIS COOKE
My foot switch that I bought around 1990 at a ham fest
and had stood up to thousands of contacts in many
phone contests has only the identifying sticker "Made
in Taiwan"

Cookie, K5EWJ

--- Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Bill W5WVO wrote:
> >
> >  I've had to repair my Heil foot switch numerous
> times.
> > The little "e" ring that holds the pivot axle in
> has a habit of coming off
> > spontaneously (I completely lost it a while back)
> >
> Your description does not match the pivot hardware
> in my two Heil foot
> switches.  So it seems that Heil has gone through a
> few designs of the pivot
> mechanism.
>
> The pivot mechanism in my foot switches consists
> entirely of a single pivot
> screw that is threaded on the end with an unthreaded
> shoulder up toward the
> screw head.  So the pivot screw becomes fixed with
> the inner half of the
> (threaded) clamshell and rotates freely around the
> outer half of the
> (unthreaded) clamshell.  The threads eventually fail
> and the pivot screws
> keeps loosening and falling out.  The kludge fix is
> to discard the pivot
> screws, drill out the holes, and use a single long
> machine screw as the
> pivot axis and secure it on the far end with a
> nylock nut.
>
> Evidently other Heil designs may be more reliable.
> Mine were purchased 5-7
> years ago and started to fail about two years later.
>  Lots of use during ssb
> contests.
>
> 73,
> Barry N1EU
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>
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Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ
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Re: Serious foot switches

ai2n
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Get a Yamaha sustain pedal designed for use with an electronic keyboard.  STURDY, switches from NO to NC contacts as needed.  I screwed mine to a piece of plywood so my heel holds it in place.

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%25253D392%252526CTID%25253D204600,00.html

73, Redd - AI2N

---- WILLIS COOKE <[hidden email]> wrote:

> My foot switch that I bought around 1990 at a ham fest
> and had stood up to thousands of contacts in many
> phone contests has only the identifying sticker "Made
> in Taiwan"
>
> Cookie, K5EWJ
>
> --- Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill W5WVO wrote:
> > >
> > >  I've had to repair my Heil foot switch numerous
> > times.
> > > The little "e" ring that holds the pivot axle in
> > has a habit of coming off
> > > spontaneously (I completely lost it a while back)
> > >
> > Your description does not match the pivot hardware
> > in my two Heil foot
> > switches.  So it seems that Heil has gone through a
> > few designs of the pivot
> > mechanism.
> >
> > The pivot mechanism in my foot switches consists
> > entirely of a single pivot
> > screw that is threaded on the end with an unthreaded
> > shoulder up toward the
> > screw head.  So the pivot screw becomes fixed with
> > the inner half of the
> > (threaded) clamshell and rotates freely around the
> > outer half of the
> > (unthreaded) clamshell.  The threads eventually fail
> > and the pivot screws
> > keeps loosening and falling out.  The kludge fix is
> > to discard the pivot
> > screws, drill out the holes, and use a single long
> > machine screw as the
> > pivot axis and secure it on the far end with a
> > nylock nut.
> >
> > Evidently other Heil designs may be more reliable.
> > Mine were purchased 5-7
> > years ago and started to fail about two years later.
> >  Lots of use during ssb
> > contests.
> >
> > 73,
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://www.nabble.com/Serious-foot-switches-tp16200556p16205616.html
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> > Nabble.com.
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> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ
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Re: Serious foot switches

Jim Wiley-2
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How about a home-brew foot switch.  Costs less, lasts forever, easy to
repair


I built mine from 2 plunger type micro-switches (contacts in parallel),
a couple triangular shaped 1" pine-wood blocks about 10" long and 3" at
the wide end, 2 each 10" X 18" pieces of 1/4" plywood or Masonite, a
couple of hinges, and some screws.   The plunger springs are nearly
strong enough to hold up the foot-treadle, and the 18" length means it
is a large target - I don't have to search for the darn thing with my
foot!  I did have to add a couple of small "helper" springs to keep the
treadle "up" - it would try to close the switches of it's own weight.


When searching for switches, you may be able to find some that are
"stiffer", thus removing the need for the helper springs.  So far, it
has lasted more than  30 years,  no failures.  Since the switches were
the only things I actually had to buy, the whole thing came to about
$10.00,but even if you have to buy everything brand new, I can't imagine
it costing more than $30.00. The switch connects to my station controls
via a length of lamp cord and a 1/4" phone plug.    


The only problem turned out to be that it was too quiet!  I ended up
using a relay (activated by the foot-switch) that cave a little "clunk"
when the switch closed, which reminds me that the station has switched
to transmit mode.  (I used to wonder why the receiver would go
occasionally quiet until I figured out what was happening. HI!)          


- Jim, KL7CC

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RE: Serious foot switches

Bruce Rattray
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...or get a foot switch from surplus dictation equipment - easily wired,
heavy duty and a good size - 73 Bruce VE5RC

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serious foot switches

Get a Yamaha sustain pedal designed for use with an electronic keyboard.
STURDY, switches from NO to NC contacts as needed.  I screwed mine to a
piece of plywood so my heel holds it in place.

http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID
%25253D392%252526CTID%25253D204600,00.html

73, Redd - AI2N

---- WILLIS COOKE <[hidden email]> wrote:

> My foot switch that I bought around 1990 at a ham fest
> and had stood up to thousands of contacts in many
> phone contests has only the identifying sticker "Made
> in Taiwan"
>
> Cookie, K5EWJ
>
> --- Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill W5WVO wrote:
> > >
> > >  I've had to repair my Heil foot switch numerous
> > times.
> > > The little "e" ring that holds the pivot axle in
> > has a habit of coming off
> > > spontaneously (I completely lost it a while back)
> > >
> > Your description does not match the pivot hardware
> > in my two Heil foot
> > switches.  So it seems that Heil has gone through a
> > few designs of the pivot
> > mechanism.
> >
> > The pivot mechanism in my foot switches consists
> > entirely of a single pivot
> > screw that is threaded on the end with an unthreaded
> > shoulder up toward the
> > screw head.  So the pivot screw becomes fixed with
> > the inner half of the
> > (threaded) clamshell and rotates freely around the
> > outer half of the
> > (unthreaded) clamshell.  The threads eventually fail
> > and the pivot screws
> > keeps loosening and falling out.  The kludge fix is
> > to discard the pivot
> > screws, drill out the holes, and use a single long
> > machine screw as the
> > pivot axis and secure it on the far end with a
> > nylock nut.
> >
> > Evidently other Heil designs may be more reliable.
> > Mine were purchased 5-7
> > years ago and started to fail about two years later.
> >  Lots of use during ssb
> > contests.
> >
> > 73,
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://www.nabble.com/Serious-foot-switches-tp16200556p16205616.html
> > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at
> > Nabble.com.
> >
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