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Would anyone care to suggest a brief spec for a new PC to run all the
wonderful applications we have available to us? I have a K3 and do some fun contesting, with computer logging etc. I want to build the LP-Pan and maybe play with CW Skimmer and whatever else comes along. I'm no PC expert and I'm overdue due an upgrade so I would appreciate some advice on a typical machine that would serve me well for maybe a couple of years or more. Soundcard seems to be the E-MU 0202, what about video card, (running two monitors) RAM etc? CPU speed, dual /quad core? Operating system???? At present using Win XP Pro and I'd like to keep this. Will Vista ever be OK? Advice from you PC Gurus would be most welcome, what say? Is the answer just more of everything, I wonder... 73, Deni F5VJC |
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Deni
One thing to consider is how the new computer will communicate with all those wonderful external things you want/need to control. Many newer computers, particularly laptops, seem to lack serial ports. So, if the computer only has USB ports, the devices you want to use with it will need USB ports. If you try a USB to serial converter, some are better than others, meaning some external serial boxes will accept the serial data from the converter and some won't. You may have to try several to find a happy solution. Good luck and 73 Bob N6WG ----- Original Message ----- From: "F5VJC" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:02 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Shack PC? > > Would anyone care to suggest a brief spec for a new PC to run all the > wonderful applications we have available to us? > > I have a K3 and do some fun contesting, with computer logging etc. > I want to build the LP-Pan and maybe play with CW Skimmer and whatever > else comes along. I'm no PC expert and I'm overdue due an upgrade so I > would appreciate some advice on a typical machine that would serve me > well for maybe a couple of years or more. > > Soundcard seems to be the E-MU 0202, what about video card, (running two > monitors) RAM etc? > > CPU speed, dual /quad core? > > Operating system???? At present using Win XP Pro and I'd like to keep this. > > Will Vista ever be OK? > > Advice from you PC Gurus would be most welcome, what say? > > Is the answer just more of everything, I wonder... > > 73, Deni > F5VJC > > > ----- > 73, Deni F5VJC > > K2 1188 K3 325 > > For a Ham Radio friendly holiday in France... > Visit www.mycottageinbrittany.com > -- > View this message in context: > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Be careful of the need for serial ports. Very few new laptops have them. The Dell Latitudes (or at least several of them) still do. Desktops may or may not come with them, but be sure to get one with at least one empty expansion slot so that you can add a serial card with at least a couple of ports.
-- 73, de Mike, KC0KBC -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: F5VJC <[hidden email]> > > Would anyone care to suggest a brief spec for a new PC to run all the > wonderful applications we have available to us? > > I have a K3 and do some fun contesting, with computer logging etc. > I want to build the LP-Pan and maybe play with CW Skimmer and whatever > else comes along. I'm no PC expert and I'm overdue due an upgrade so I > would appreciate some advice on a typical machine that would serve me > well for maybe a couple of years or more. > > Soundcard seems to be the E-MU 0202, what about video card, (running two > monitors) RAM etc? > > CPU speed, dual /quad core? > > Operating system???? At present using Win XP Pro and I'd like to keep this. > > Will Vista ever be OK? > > Advice from you PC Gurus would be most welcome, what say? > > Is the answer just more of everything, I wonder... > > 73, Deni > F5VJC > > > ----- > 73, Deni F5VJC > > K2 1188 K3 325 > > For a Ham Radio friendly holiday in France... > Visit www.mycottageinbrittany.com > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Shack-PC--tp15890493p15890493.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have just purchased a quantity of computers for my classroom use because of
there very compact size, high performance and low cost - worth looking at and they come in many configurations. They were originally called Acer Power1000 and Power2000. They are now branded as Veriton. these come in many packages but the VM460 line is the ultra compact. Has all the builtin features - video and audio with many USB ports. They come in many configurations all dual core Intel or AMD fast processors, large HDD and built-in DVD writeable drive and Wi-Fi. Negatives - no expansion slots, or RS232 but with half a dozen USB 2 ports that can be handled. I don't have a report on soundcard performance a'la Ham Radio, but everything else works great. Can be bought in many configurations for prices from upper $300s to mid $800s with choice of XP or Vista for the O/S. _http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description= veriton_ (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=veriton) for example. Al WA6VNN **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Two suggestions:
1) USInterface.com Navigator - everything in one box and an extra COM port for your use - look at http://USInterface.com. I have a Navigator and can vouch for it. 2) MicroHAM's external interfaces - take a good look at http://www.microham-usa.com - I think Joe W4TV is on this list (I do get confused at times). I don't have any MicroHAM products simply because I don't have all the toys available in the market, there will be many satisfied MicroHAM users on this list :-) 3) Audio only - Tigertronics SignaLinkUSB. There are some very good *powered* SUB => COM port adapters, for example one I have provides 4 COM ports. The key word here is *powered*, if you use a USB hub make sure it's full-spec and *powered* via external mains PSU. Don't buy cheap junk on eBay! --- Were I starting from scratch I would use external USB => Serial such as Navigator / MicroHAM as it really solves the cable salad problem. I actually took my PCI COM port card out of my radio PC and replaced it with a satellite TV card as the Navigator had made it redundant. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike" <[hidden email]> > Be careful of the need for serial ports. Very few new laptops have them. > The Dell Latitudes (or at least several of them) still do. Desktops may > or may not come with them, but be sure to get one with at least one empty > expansion slot so that you can add a serial card with at least a couple of > ports. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Would anyone believe I have a 1st class degree in Maths ?
Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]> > Two suggestions: > > 1) ... > 2) ... > 3) ... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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If you can explain why, then you do have a 1st class...
vy 73 de toby > Would anyone believe I have a 1st class degree in Maths ? > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]> > >> Two suggestions: >> >> 1) ... >> 2) ... >> 3) ... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>> Would anyone believe I have a 1st class degree in Maths ? >> >> Simon Brown, HB9DRV Our main weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear.... Our main weapons are.... etc :-) Nooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Mike F.
Not that it´s an Elecraft issue but since nobody seems to care. Yes the Dell Latituden D630 has a serial port, actually the only Dell laptop I could find with a serial port. I just did buy this D630 and went through the market, it was just about the only one with a serial port I could find. 73 Jim SM2EKM --------------------------- Mike wrote: > Be careful of the need for serial ports. Very few new laptops have them. The Dell Latitudes (or at least several of them) still do. Desktops may or may not come with them, but be sure to get one with at least one empty expansion slot so that you can add a serial card with at least a couple of ports. > > -- > 73, > de Mike, KC0KBC > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At least I can remember that I got a degree, I have no idea what I studied
apart from something to do with Fortran IV and punched cards and a computer in Manchester and a nice girl from York. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ian J Maude" <[hidden email]> > Our main weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear.... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Deni F5VJC
Different strokes for different folks. I would avoid USB/COM adapters like the plague - too many driver problems.
I bought a $10 PCI I/O card (2 serial, 1 parallel port) on ebay and it works a hell of a lot better than my expensive USB/COM adapter, which after 4 years suddenly exhibits the "sporadically vanishing port" disease. 73, Barry N1EU
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The only computers I use in the shack are ones that are too clapped out to do anything else. I still have one 10 year old Dell Pentium II 400MHz doing weather satellite reception. Most ham radio software is not particularly demanding though the controversial CW Skimmer needs quite a powerful CPU, apparently. I now use Linux, and it just seems appropriate to me to be using an OS largely developed by amateur enthusiasts for amateur radio. (In fact, I have now converted all our home and office computers to Linux, as I loathe Vista and have no desire ever to use it.) However the choice of ham radio software available under Linux is quite limited compared to Windows, and it helps to be a bit of a computer techie to be able to overcome the various hurdles one usually encounters with Linux.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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I fancy using the K3 on field days and mini-dxpeditions. I also fancy the
new line of small Asus computers which come with Linux installed. They have no hard drive therefore run longer on a standard battery. It has a set of drivers for Windoze applications should I wish to install at a later date, but someone once said there is an emulator for running Windoze applications which therefore does not require a licence from Bill; someone might be able to comment on that. They come with Connectors: 3 USB 2.0 ports, MMC/SD (HC) card reader, Ethernet port, Here are some links Asus Eee PC, the 4GB version. 1024MB of Ram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=veriton In answer to Doug KR2Q appeal for more info on the same subject, he was advised that a dual core cpu was a better investment over Pentium but the software has to be able to take advantage of the dual power. Then, again I like what Julian says about using old computers. David G3UNA Julian, G4ILO said > The only computers I use in the shack are ones that are too clapped out to > do anything else. I still have one 10 year old Dell Pentium II 400MHz > doing > weather satellite reception. Most ham radio software is not particularly > demanding though the controversial CW Skimmer needs quite a powerful CPU, > apparently. > > I now use Linux, and it just seems appropriate to me to be using an OS > largely developed by amateur enthusiasts for amateur radio. (In fact, I > have > now converted all our home and office computers to Linux, as I loathe > Vista > and have no desire ever to use it.) > > However the choice of ham radio software available under Linux is quite > limited compared to Windows, and it helps to be a bit of a computer techie > to be able to overcome the various hurdles one usually encounters with > Linux. > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > -- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hash: SHA1 The days of the single core processor are over. Developers are writing applications which take advantage of the second core and fast memory buss. As has always been the case, it's the PC gamers and developers who drive the performance side. As has always been the case, the single best "upgrade" you can do for a PC, or Mac for that matter, is to fill the memory slots, up to the OS limit. Julian is correct about Windows having an advantage in Ham Radio software. You can thank Visual Basic and MS Access for that. In my experience if there is an Linux app and a comparable Windows app, the Linux app seems to run better, maybe without all the gee-whiz eye candy, but better. Linux for Ham Radio is still missing that one killer app like HRD/DM780 on the windows side. FLDigi is VERY good, better than MixW on the windows side, but it doesn't have the rig control and log integration that HRD does. David Cutter wrote: | I fancy using the K3 on field days and mini-dxpeditions. I also fancy | the new line of small Asus computers which come with Linux installed. | They have no hard drive therefore run longer on a standard battery. It | has a set of drivers for Windoze applications should I wish to install | at a later date, but someone once said there is an emulator for running | Windoze applications which therefore does not require a licence from | Bill; someone might be able to comment on that. | | They come with Connectors: 3 USB 2.0 ports, MMC/SD (HC) card reader, | Ethernet port, | | Here are some links | | Asus Eee PC, the 4GB version. 1024MB of Ram | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC | | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=veriton | | | In answer to Doug KR2Q appeal for more info on the same subject, he was | advised that a dual core cpu was a better investment over Pentium but | the software has to be able to take advantage of the dual power. | | Then, again I like what Julian says about using old computers. - -- R. Kevin Stover, ACØH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0Tp/11jxjloa2wsRAuIwAJ4izR3vkL8uqNDXK/WHSaDjSJ0FtgCdE25M GgfygxETkwerJmYH6pfrC9Y= =QhoW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have an Eee PC too. In fact, it's what convinced me I could live
with Linux on my other computers. I didn't buy it specifically for radio use but I played around with it while waiting for my K3 to arrive. I even started an Asus Eee PC Ham Radio Users board at http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?board=24.0 for people to swap tips and tricks. It runs Fldigi nicely for digimodes. There is also a small logging program from the same author that works with it. As for the "emulator for running Windoze applications which therefore does not require a licence from Bill" that David mentioned, that's called wine, and it does run some Windows programs OK, including most of mine, such as VOAProp. Others, such as MixW, crash. Perhaps it would be better to continue this thread in the forum mentioned above, since it's a bit off-topic for this list? -- Julian, G4ILO Member: RSGB, ARRL QRP Station: Elecraft K3 #222, K2 #392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com On 07/03/2008, Brendan Minish <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have an asus EEEPC and I love it, it's replaced my Thinkpad for most > of my portable computing needs and as a sysadmin it's great to have a > machine that is small enough and cheap enough to go anywhere > > the Built in Linux distro (Xandros) is a relative of debian and with > some care it's possible to add the debian repositories, this gives you > access to all the ham radio apps that are available for debian,Ubunto > etc. Some apps may have issues with the small screen size though almost > all are usable by holding down alt and dragging the application around > the virtual desktop > http://www.eeeuser.com/ > > > EMCpup is a usb stick distribution that comes ready to go for ham radio > use. this works ok on the eeePC and is a good way to try out some of the > Linux ham radio software on any machine without doing an actual > install > http://www.w1hkj.com/emcpup.html > > In my case I am not really a debian fan so moved the Default Xandros to > a 4G flash card and installed eeedora (A fedora linux spin) this also > works perfectly on the eeePC > http://code.google.com/p/eeedora/ > > > Personally I would not install windows on it as linux is very capable > theses days. Linux is an ideal platform for ham radio and we need to > encourage more ham radio software development under open source > licences. > For rig control pretty much any USB to serial converter will 'just work' > under linux > > The other thing that 'just works' is my USB 3G data modem. > > the only downside is that the eeePC is back-ordered by many weeks most > places, My Wife has been waiting for her eeePC for a number of weeks > now.. > > 73 > Brendan EI6IZ > > > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 12:28 +0000, David Cutter wrote: > > I fancy using the K3 on field days and mini-dxpeditions. I also fancy the > > new line of small Asus computers which come with Linux installed. They have > > no hard drive therefore run longer on a standard battery. It has a set of > > drivers for Windoze applications should I wish to install at a later date, > > but someone once said there is an emulator for running Windoze applications > > which therefore does not require a licence from Bill; someone might be able > > to comment on that. > > > > They come with Connectors: 3 USB 2.0 ports, MMC/SD (HC) card reader, > > Ethernet port, > > > > Here are some links > > > > Asus Eee PC, the 4GB version. 1024MB of Ram > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=veriton > > > > In answer to Doug KR2Q appeal for more info on the same subject, he was > > advised that a dual core cpu was a better investment over Pentium but the > > software has to be able to take advantage of the dual power. > > > > Then, again I like what Julian says about using old computers. > > > > > > David > > G3UNA > > > > > > Julian, G4ILO said > > > > > The only computers I use in the shack are ones that are too clapped out to > > > do anything else. I still have one 10 year old Dell Pentium II 400MHz > > > doing > > > weather satellite reception. Most ham radio software is not particularly > > > demanding though the controversial CW Skimmer needs quite a powerful CPU, > > > apparently. > > > > > > I now use Linux, and it just seems appropriate to me to be using an OS > > > largely developed by amateur enthusiasts for amateur radio. (In fact, I > > > have > > > now converted all our home and office computers to Linux, as I loathe > > > Vista > > > and have no desire ever to use it.) > > > > > > However the choice of ham radio software available under Linux is quite > > > limited compared to Windows, and it helps to be a bit of a computer techie > > > to be able to overcome the various hurdles one usually encounters with > > > Linux. > > > > > > ----- > > > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > > > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > > > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > > > -- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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>Deni >One thing to consider is how the new computer will communicate with >all those wonderful external things you want/need to control. >Many newer computers, particularly laptops, seem to lack serial ports. >So, if the computer only has USB ports, the devices you want to >use with it will need USB ports. >If you try a USB to serial converter, some are better than others, >meaning >some external serial boxes will accept the serial data from the >converter >and some won't. You may have to try several to find a happy solution. >Good luck and 73 >Bob N6WG If you get a desktop computer (recommended), then you can buy serial port boards relatively inexpensively, so it's really not an issue. Paul N4LCD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Simon and All,
Reminds me of the night my dad made his favorite declaration in response to a conversations about what a good eater he was and how he seemed to like everything. He said, "There's only One thing I don't like! Coconut! .................and raisins! Now, he had partaken of a couple of vodka tonics at the time, but not sure you want to claim the same excuse! Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shack PC? > Would anyone believe I have a 1st class degree in Maths ? > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Simon Brown (HB9DRV)" <[hidden email]> > >> Two suggestions: >> >> 1) ... >> 2) ... >> 3) ... > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Deni,
It wouldn't be right if I didn't chime in a few comments about the MacIntosh. One of the wonderful things about the Apple OS X (the "X" is the roman numeral for 10) Operating system is it's BSD Unix based. That means any of the linux programs should compile. Personally, I use a mac mini in the shack. I got this one new in '05 back when they used the Power PC procesors. If you want a fresh start with a completely new system, I would recommend an iMac. The idea behind the mac mini is to use your existing PC peripherals and maybe switch to macs a little cheaper. I got my mini and then bought all new peripherals. In hind sight, I should have just got the imac as it comes with a new keyboard and mouse and the monitor and computer are built together. Macs hold onto their usefullness and value MUCH longer that any PC on the market. Just look at ebay, an ibook laptop from around 2002 will sell for about $350. Still worth every penny and with an OS upgrade, just as useful as the day it rolled off the assembly line. Switching to mac was the best thing I ever did regarding computers. I no longer have to "work" on my computer just to get it to work. I simply just use it and it does what I want it to. For digital modes Kok Chen W7AY, has a wonderful program called: cocoaModem. In reality, I haven't had ANY trouble finding software for the mac that has a "PC" equivalent. The new macs are intel based and can even run windows (yuk) if needed. I just wish my K2 worked like my mac! I must have messed up somewhere in the build... 73, Damon KC5CQW
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