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Edward A. Dauer
Looks great, Dave, and the running narrative on your website is helpful.
Inspires me to do the same.

A question for anyone who might have suggestions about the furniture part
of a ham shack:  I am pretty much restricted to a tabletop 60 inches by 24
inches, with a rolling file cabinet underneath, which isn¹t much space as
the collection grows.  I need to build a second deck, something like a
hutch that sits on the desk, has room for the K-line underneath and a
shelf where all the other stuff can go.  My somewhat casual Internet
research hasn¹t turned up anything useful.  I may have to bite the bullet
and hire a cabinetmaker (years ago I bought a power saw and immediately
cut through its own cord, so I don¹t do woodworking or other dangerous
sports), but thought I¹d ask if anyone knows a source for high-quality
items that might be adapted to the purpose.

Ted, KN1CBR

>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 21
>Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 22:44:00 -0700
>From: David Cole <[hidden email]>
>To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [Elecraft] Shack rebuild thanks to new K3
>Message-ID: <1399268640.19083.53.camel@nostromo.NK7Z>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>Hello all,
>If anyone is interested, here is a sort of running "stream of
>conciseness", description of the shack rebuild which my new K3
>necessitated.
>http://nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/
>
>--
>Thanks and 73's,
>For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
>www.nk7z.net
>for MixW support see;
>http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
>for Dopplergram information see:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
>for MM-SSTV see:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 22
>Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 22:46:47 -0700
>From: Pete Barth <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [Elecraft] Subject: Re:  Could this operate on a motorcycle?
>Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>1) The fellows at MARC have years ago optimized ham radio on cruising
>bikes. Please take their hints to heart.
>
>I have not made long rides on my BMW K1200LT for years but when I did I
>had
>a 742 with modules on 2 mtrs, 220, and 450 with separate antennas up on
>the
>top of the baggage trunk on a huge metal plate.
>There was a bike am/fm antenna on the rear left.
>I fabricated a similar mount on the rear right for a short screwdriver
>antenna with a trailing counterpoise wire held up in the air with a short
>length of fabric on the end to make it fly.
>I ran a 2 inch copper strap (folded over to one inch) from the trunk in
>the
>back all through the chassis up into the front fork for a valid
>counterpoise.
>I used my Elecraft K3 on a plate above my speedo.
>I used a Palm paddle on the right handlebar. A miniature straight key too,
>with a changeover switch to do morse on the horn.
>A second electret mike in the helmet.
>Cruse control and cw on the highway! Slow cw for me though.
>
>I had a second 17AH battery (diode isolated) buffering the cycle battery
>for the radios. That way the bike battery never ran down.
>I was never lonely on the road with the radios. The Iron Butt rides get
>lonely!
>I miss the fellows in the MARC club. They were dedicated riding and ham
>fanatics!
>Just writing this note makes me want to put the antennas back on and get
>out on the road.
>I always feared the 100 watts would interfere with the BMW engine/brake
>computers, but it never did.
>
>--
>Pete / ??? / W6LAW
>323 460-7018    Hollywood home
>323 461-7018    Pete cell
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 23
>Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 23:33:13 -0700
>From: Chuck Smallhouse <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Could this operate on a motorcycle?
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>A KX3 or any of the K line is not suitable for use on a vehicle that
>requires so much concentration, coordination and attention to all
>aspects of its operation.  Especially a road bike where all of the
>fore mentioned is of upmost importance for safety and staying
>uninjured and alive.
>
>As others have pointed out, a much more appropriate communication
>device would be either a handle bar mounted, or even  a belt mounted
>hand held transceiver, for either 2 meters or 440 MHz, or one with a
>dual band capability.   They operate in the FM mode, thus are more
>immune to man made noise and ignition noise interference.  Once set
>to a desired (mutual with all operators) channel, they don't require
>further rider attention, other than maybe an occasional adjustment of
>the audio volume.  They can be used with helmet mounted hearing
>pieces and microphones.  A conveniently located, handle bar mounted,
>Push To Talk (PTT) switch coupled with a low profile(19") quarter
>wave whip, mounted on the rear of the bike, will be
>required.  Depending on the terrain, the bike to bike range, can be
>as much as 15 miles, more than enough for the leader to be alerted to
>a problem by the "tail gunner".
>
>I'm a long time dirt bike, dual sport, quad and side x side rider and
>have organized and participated in many group rides and  events. We
>have often used similar equipment for event control.  In fact I have
>a permanently mounted, mobile, dual band (2M/440 MHz) transceiver in
>my competitive grade Polaris RZR side x side.
>
>Chuck,  W7CS
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 24
>Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 23:35:29 -0700
>From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
>To: Chuck Smallhouse <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Could this operate on a motorcycle?
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Folks,
>
>We closed this thread earlier this evening.
>
>73,
>
>Eric
>List Moderator
>elecraft.com
>
>On 5/4/2014 11:33 PM, Chuck Smallhouse wrote:
>> A KX3 or any of the K line is not suitable for use on a vehicle that
>>requires
>> so much concentration, coordination and attention to all aspects of its
>>operatio
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 25
>Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 10:32:53 -0700
>From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
>To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [Elecraft] test
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Just checking the reflector server. (Mighty quiet!)
>
>73,
>Eric
>elecraft.com
>
>
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Re: OT Shack rebuild

k6dgw
Try the shelving kits in the Big Box stores.  I got mine at Target,
they're about a foot deep, and have two shelves [one in the middle and
one on top] separated by just under 5 inches.  For the radio, the KPA500
goes underneath on the desk because of the weight, K3 above it, KAT500
on top, and P3 on top of KAT500.  My FT-847 is also on top next to the
KAT500.  The other set are on the back of what I use for a work bench.

They're made from particle board with wood-grain plastic covering.  I
cut a couple of small boards exactly the height of the spaces between
the shelves and just put them in at the back to keep the weight from
bending the shelves.  KPA500 and K3 have about 1 1/2" of clearance above
them.  I'll send you a photo if you want.

A LOT cheaper than having something custom made.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 5/5/2014 3:52 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:

> A question for anyone who might have suggestions about the furniture part
> of a ham shack:  I am pretty much restricted to a tabletop 60 inches by 24
> inches, with a rolling file cabinet underneath, which isn¹t much space as
> the collection grows.  I need to build a second deck, something like a
> hutch that sits on the desk, has room for the K-line underneath and a
> shelf where all the other stuff can go.  My somewhat casual Internet
> research hasn¹t turned up anything useful.  I may have to bite the bullet
> and hire a cabinetmaker (years ago I bought a power saw and immediately
> cut through its own cord, so I don¹t do woodworking or other dangerous
> sports), but thought I¹d ask if anyone knows a source for high-quality
> items that might be adapted to the purpose.


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Re: Shack rebuild

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Ed and Ted,


Try going to google images and see the images for “hutch for elecraft k line”.  There are some neat ideas there.


Tom






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From: Dauer, Edward
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎May‎ ‎5‎, ‎2014 ‎5‎:‎52‎ ‎PM
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Looks great, Dave, and the running narrative on your website is helpful.
Inspires me to do the same.

A question for anyone who might have suggestions about the furniture part
of a ham shack:  I am pretty much restricted to a tabletop 60 inches by 24
inches, with a rolling file cabinet underneath, which isn¹t much space as
the collection grows.  I need to build a second deck, something like a
hutch that sits on the desk, has room for the K-line underneath and a
shelf where all the other stuff can go.  My somewhat casual Internet
research hasn¹t turned up anything useful.  I may have to bite the bullet
and hire a cabinetmaker (years ago I bought a power saw and immediately
cut through its own cord, so I don¹t do woodworking or other dangerous
sports), but thought I¹d ask if anyone knows a source for high-quality
items that might be adapted to the purpose.

Ted, KN1CBR

>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 21
>Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 22:44:00 -0700
>From: David Cole <[hidden email]>
>To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [Elecraft] Shack rebuild thanks to new K3
>Message-ID: <1399268640.19083.53.camel@nostromo.NK7Z>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>Hello all,
>If anyone is interested, here is a sort of running "stream of
>conciseness", description of the shack rebuild which my new K3
>necessitated.
>http://nk7z.net/rebuilding-the-shack/
>
>--
>Thanks and 73's,
>For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
>www.nk7z.net
>for MixW support see;
>http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
>for Dopplergram information see:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
>for MM-SSTV see:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 22
>Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 22:46:47 -0700
>From: Pete Barth <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: [Elecraft] Subject: Re:  Could this operate on a motorcycle?
>Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>1) The fellows at MARC have years ago optimized ham radio on cruising
>bikes. Please take their hints to heart.
>
>I have not made long rides on my BMW K1200LT for years but when I did I
>had
>a 742 with modules on 2 mtrs, 220, and 450 with separate antennas up on
>the
>top of the baggage trunk on a huge metal plate.
>There was a bike am/fm antenna on the rear left.
>I fabricated a similar mount on the rear right for a short screwdriver
>antenna with a trailing counterpoise wire held up in the air with a short
>length of fabric on the end to make it fly.
>I ran a 2 inch copper strap (folded over to one inch) from the trunk in
>the
>back all through the chassis up into the front fork for a valid
>counterpoise.
>I used my Elecraft K3 on a plate above my speedo.
>I used a Palm paddle on the right handlebar. A miniature straight key too,
>with a changeover switch to do morse on the horn.
>A second electret mike in the helmet.
>Cruse control and cw on the highway! Slow cw for me though.
>
>I had a second 17AH battery (diode isolated) buffering the cycle battery
>for the radios. That way the bike battery never ran down.
>I was never lonely on the road with the radios. The Iron Butt rides get
>lonely!
>I miss the fellows in the MARC club. They were dedicated riding and ham
>fanatics!
>Just writing this note makes me want to put the antennas back on and get
>out on the road.
>I always feared the 100 watts would interfere with the BMW engine/brake
>computers, but it never did.
>
>--
>Pete / ??? / W6LAW
>323 460-7018    Hollywood home
>323 461-7018    Pete cell
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 23
>Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 23:33:13 -0700
>From: Chuck Smallhouse <[hidden email]>
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Could this operate on a motorcycle?
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>A KX3 or any of the K line is not suitable for use on a vehicle that
>requires so much concentration, coordination and attention to all
>aspects of its operation.  Especially a road bike where all of the
>fore mentioned is of upmost importance for safety and staying
>uninjured and alive.
>
>As others have pointed out, a much more appropriate communication
>device would be either a handle bar mounted, or even  a belt mounted
>hand held transceiver, for either 2 meters or 440 MHz, or one with a
>dual band capability.   They operate in the FM mode, thus are more
>immune to man made noise and ignition noise interference.  Once set
>to a desired (mutual with all operators) channel, they don't require
>further rider attention, other than maybe an occasional adjustment of
>the audio volume.  They can be used with helmet mounted hearing
>pieces and microphones.  A conveniently located, handle bar mounted,
>Push To Talk (PTT) switch coupled with a low profile(19") quarter
>wave whip, mounted on the rear of the bike, will be
>required.  Depending on the terrain, the bike to bike range, can be
>as much as 15 miles, more than enough for the leader to be alerted to
>a problem by the "tail gunner".
>
>I'm a long time dirt bike, dual sport, quad and side x side rider and
>have organized and participated in many group rides and  events. We
>have often used similar equipment for event control.  In fact I have
>a permanently mounted, mobile, dual band (2M/440 MHz) transceiver in
>my competitive grade Polaris RZR side x side.
>
>Chuck,  W7CS
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 24
>Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 23:35:29 -0700
>From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
>To: Chuck Smallhouse <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Could this operate on a motorcycle?
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Folks,
>
>We closed this thread earlier this evening.
>
>73,
>
>Eric
>List Moderator
>elecraft.com
>
>On 5/4/2014 11:33 PM, Chuck Smallhouse wrote:
>> A KX3 or any of the K line is not suitable for use on a vehicle that
>>requires
>> so much concentration, coordination and attention to all aspects of its
>>operatio
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 25
>Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 10:32:53 -0700
>From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
>To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [Elecraft] test
>Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>Just checking the reflector server. (Mighty quiet!)
>
>73,
>Eric
>elecraft.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
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>
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>*****************************************

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Re: OT Shack rebuild

NK7Z
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Also, reinforce them if at all possible...  Think having them sit for 3
or 4 years with weight on them...  They WILL sag.  I add a 2X4 to every
one of them I get.  It keeps the shelf straight, and keeps it from
sliding off sideways.
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
for Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
for MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info


On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 16:19 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote:

> Try the shelving kits in the Big Box stores.  I got mine at Target,
> they're about a foot deep, and have two shelves [one in the middle and
> one on top] separated by just under 5 inches.  For the radio, the KPA500
> goes underneath on the desk because of the weight, K3 above it, KAT500
> on top, and P3 on top of KAT500.  My FT-847 is also on top next to the
> KAT500.  The other set are on the back of what I use for a work bench.
>
> They're made from particle board with wood-grain plastic covering.  I
> cut a couple of small boards exactly the height of the spaces between
> the shelves and just put them in at the back to keep the weight from
> bending the shelves.  KPA500 and K3 have about 1 1/2" of clearance above
> them.  I'll send you a photo if you want.
>
> A LOT cheaper than having something custom made.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 5/5/2014 3:52 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>
> > A question for anyone who might have suggestions about the furniture part
> > of a ham shack:  I am pretty much restricted to a tabletop 60 inches by 24
> > inches, with a rolling file cabinet underneath, which isn¹t much space as
> > the collection grows.  I need to build a second deck, something like a
> > hutch that sits on the desk, has room for the K-line underneath and a
> > shelf where all the other stuff can go.  My somewhat casual Internet
> > research hasn¹t turned up anything useful.  I may have to bite the bullet
> > and hire a cabinetmaker (years ago I bought a power saw and immediately
> > cut through its own cord, so I don¹t do woodworking or other dangerous
> > sports), but thought I¹d ask if anyone knows a source for high-quality
> > items that might be adapted to the purpose.
>
>
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