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Nr4c

Re: Signing "/QRP"

It's not your job to verify there power setting. If he signs /QRP while running he's 1.5 KW amp, that's between him and his conscience.

If you don't record the /QRP you don't have his call correct.

When's the last time you asked for a copy of abcontacts license before sending a QSL card?

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> On Jul 26, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Dave Heil <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> During my operations from Africa, I had a number of folks send duplicate QSLs stating that we'd not marked their QSLs with /QRP. My view was that I couldn't certify that they were QRP as I wasn't in their shack. Only they could do that. I didn't, however, object to any signing /QRP although it likely lessens their chances in a pileup.
>
> Dave K8MN
>
>> On 26-Jul-17 18:33, Ken G Kopp wrote:
>> I view it as a "I'm special ... Please take pitty on me - I -never- respond.
>> 73
>> K0PP
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Nr4c

Re: Signing "/QRP"

In reply to this post by Dave Heil

BTW how do we know you're in Africa.

Yes, you tweaked a button!

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Nr4c

Re: Signing "/QRP"

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Like signing emails with list of clubs they belong to, awards and all the Elecraft equipment with serial numbers.

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> On Jul 26, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Nicklas Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> On 26 July 2017 at 15:40, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>
>> Signing "/QRP" is just another manifestation of entitlement. It is a
>> way of saying "I'm different and I demand special treatment."
>>
>>
> I think you are reading waaaaaay more into it than what is actually
> there. Different, sure, but it's equally plausible to interpret it as a
> pre-emptive explanation for having a weaker signal (or an inability to
> transmit with any more power) or even just as a throwaway "gee whiz"
> factoid about what they're doing. I'm unwilling to assume what someone
> else's motives must be when I can immediately imagine multiple different
> reasons why someone might do a thing. When I see a call sign coming across
> from someone I don't know, I can't ascribe some special meaning to their
> indicator without more information; all QRP tells me is that they're
> (probably) using low power, not WHY they're using low power or WHY they're
> telling me about it.
>
> For me to assume what their motivation might be would require my making
> assumptions about them and their reasoning process, which is information I
> absolutely do not have.
>
> Maybe I'll start signing N6OL/PIE when I'm having pizza. There's just as
> much reason to get mad about that.
>
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> Message delivered to [hidden email] 26 July 2017 at 15:40, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>
>> Signing "/QRP" is just another manifestation of entitlement. It is a
>> way of saying "I'm different and I demand special treatment."
>>
>>
> I think you are reading waaaaaay more into it than what is actually
> there. Different, sure, but it's equally plausible to interpret it as a
> pre-emptive explanation for having a weaker signal (or an inability to
> transmit with any more power) or even just as a throwaway "gee whiz"
> factoid about what they're doing. I'm unwilling to assume what someone
> else's motives must be when I can immediately imagine multiple different
> reasons why someone might do a thing. When I see a call sign coming across
> from someone I don't know, I can't ascribe some special meaning to their
> indicator without more information; all QRP tells me is that they're
> (probably) using low power, not WHY they're using low power or WHY they're
> telling me about it.
>
> For me to assume what their motivation might be would require my making
> assumptions about them and their reasoning process, which is information I
> absolutely do not have.
>
> Maybe I'll start signing N6OL/PIE when I'm having pizza. There's just as
> much reason to get mad about that.
>
> Nick
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Drew AF2Z

Re: Signing "/QRP"

In reply to this post by Ken G Kopp

Since QRP means "reduce your power" I figure it's an invitation to crank
my output down to 5 watts and reply. If I can hear him at 5 watts he'll
probably hear me and we'll both be using the minimum power required to
make the contact.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

On 07/26/17 14:33, Ken G Kopp wrote:

> I view it as a "I'm special ... Please take pitty on me - I -never- respond.
>
> 73
>
> K0PP
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N2TK

Re: Signing "/QRP"

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

Don,
You are so correct about affecting the rhythm. One other issue happens when
signals are very weak. "/QRP" ads four characters more you need to copy. If
after several tries I don't feel like I got the entire call correct I don't
log it and I move on. If the QRPer is running and wants to use "/QRP", that
is fine. When the QRPer is answering a CQ, especially in a contest, don't
hang the "/QRP" on the call. The running station may not have good copy on
you. The "/" may mean something else other than QRP. I have nothing against
QRP. Each to their own as to what they are trying to accomplish. That is
cool. I am just saying, try to help so the QSO is valid and you are in the
log.

73,
N2TK, Tony

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

I recall my first contact after getting my KX3. It was on SSB. I did not
indicate my power level until well into the contact, and the other operator
said "I cannot believe you are running only 10 watts."

So much for the /QRP signing, you can make contacts, and that is what
counts.

It all depends on the attitude of the operator on the far end of the QSO.
There are several who will ignore any operator who signs /QRP, so in
general, I would discourage doing so.

OTOH, if you are looking for only other QRP stations, then by all means use
it.

For brevity of exchanges, I would discourage it in contests and operations
like Field Day - the added suffix will only interfere with the receiving
operator's 'rhythm".

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/26/2017 8:10 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> Ultimately, what is the real purpose of signing /QRP ???
>
> The only answer I can think of translates to "give me a break, I want
> special treatment".
>
> I've operated many times with a barefoot KX3 and now a KX2 and NEVER
> signed /QRP, or even mentioned the power level unless the contact
> asked what I was running.
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