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Single or dual paddle??

gwwhatley@juno.com
I'm looking at Begali paddles.  I'm used to dual paddles (Bencher, etc), but never use the iambic feature, and don't intend to in the future.    I have never used a single paddle, and wonder if it would be very different from a dual??  Is the single more conducive to making sending errors?  (I make too many with a dual)
 
One guy on eham said it was hard to get the Simplex tuned in just right. He said it was  because he uses very close contact spacing.   Anyone out there who has used a Simplex single and care to comment?
 
Tnx, George, n4ym
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Re: Single or dual paddle??

Joe-aa4nn
There is nothing hard about adjusting close contact spacing
on the Simplex Mono.  I have one and it is a joy to use.
I also use dual lever paddles but not for squeeze, so anyone
who uses a dual paddle and doesn't squeeze will have no trouble
using a single lever paddle.  Less errors, too, probably.
de Joe, aa4nn
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I'm looking at Begali paddles.  I'm used to dual paddles (Bencher, etc), but
never use the iambic feature, and don't intend to in the future.    I have
never used a single paddle, and wonder if it would be very different from a
dual??  Is the single more conducive to making sending errors?  (I make too
many with a dual)

One guy on eham said it was hard to get the Simplex tuned in just right. He
said it was  because he uses very close contact spacing.   Anyone out there
who has used a Simplex single and care to comment?

Tnx, George, n4ym

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Re: Single or dual paddle??

Bob Nielsen
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On Jul 11, 2006, at 8:58 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> I'm looking at Begali paddles.  I'm used to dual paddles (Bencher,  
> etc), but never use the iambic feature, and don't intend to in the  
> future.    I have never used a single paddle, and wonder if it  
> would be very different from a dual??  Is the single more conducive  
> to making sending errors?  (I make too many with a dual)
>
> One guy on eham said it was hard to get the Simplex tuned in just  
> right. He said it was  because he uses very close contact  
> spacing.   Anyone out there who has used a Simplex single and care  
> to comment?
>

I have been using a Bengali Simplex (dual paddles) for about 3 years  
(I never got comfortable with iambic operation either).  I like the  
feel much better than my Bencher.  Although the construction is quite  
different, the feel is quite similar to a Brown Brothers paddle.  I  
use fairly close spacing.  The single paddle Simplex wasn't available  
when I bought mine, but that looks like a good paddle also.

73 - Bob, N7XY
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Re: Single or dual paddle??

k7nhb
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The problem is NOT the dual paddle. It's the keyer! There is another
mode besides iambic A/B that works just fine with a dual paddle. A
while back there was a lament in the brasspounders newsgroup about
the plethera of great quality dual paddles but no one liked the dit
dah dit dah dit dah iambic squeeze response. Most of use had come
from straight keys, bugs, cooties and we wanted a dit when we pushed
the dit paddle and a dah when we pushed the dah paddle no matter what
- squeeze or single push.

Someone mentioned an older ultramatic (various spellings) mode where
the last paddle pushed wins. So if you are pushing the dits paddle
and you squeeze so the dah paddle come into play, it the keyer will
switch to dahs. Releasing the dah paddle brings back the dits when
the dit paddle is still pushed.  We all rejoiced. That's the kind of
predictability we wanted.

At this time the Jackson harbor PK4 chip supports that mode so I
think all their keyer kits do. Also, that chip is used in the new
Palm Cube keyer. Several older Ten Tec keyers use that mode. It's too
bad it is not offered in Elecrafts built in keyers.

If you find a keyer that supports Ultamatic (various spellings) I
think you will find your dual paddle much more fun to use - unless
you have always been on iambic and have kung fu like reflexes.
73,
Paul
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Re: Single or dual paddle??

Joe-aa4nn
Winkey and Winkey2 also support Ultramatic mode which with
either of these keyers controlled by your logging or contesting
program you will be sending perfect morse in lieu of Windows
erratic timing of dits and dahs.  
de Joe, aa4nn
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> At this time the Jackson harbor PK4 chip supports that mode so I
> think all their keyer kits do. Also, that chip is used in the new
> Palm Cube keyer. Several older Ten Tec keyers use that mode. It's too
> bad it is not offered in Elecrafts built in keyers.
>
> If you find a keyer that supports Ultamatic (various spellings) I
> think you will find your dual paddle much more fun to use - unless
> you have always been on iambic and have kung fu like reflexes.
> 73,
> Paul

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RE: Single or dual paddle??

Don Wilhelm-3
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Folks,

Most (if not all) the K1EL keyers support Ultimatic mode - at least my K12
and K40 include it.
BTW, the K12 board is small enough to tuck inside the K2 for those who are
adventursome or creative (I have not done it, mine is external for use on
several rigs).

73,
Don W3FPR

> -----Original Message-----
>
> The problem is NOT the dual paddle. It's the keyer! There is another
> mode besides iambic A/B that works just fine with a dual paddle. <snip>
>
> Someone mentioned an older ultramatic (various spellings) mode where
> the last paddle pushed wins. So if you are pushing the dits paddle
> and you squeeze so the dah paddle come into play, it the keyer will
> switch to dahs. Releasing the dah paddle brings back the dits when
> the dit paddle is still pushed.  We all rejoiced. That's the kind of
> predictability we wanted.
>
> At this time the Jackson harbor PK4 chip supports that mode so I
> think all their keyer kits do. Also, that chip is used in the new
> Palm Cube keyer. Several older Ten Tec keyers use that mode. It's too
> bad it is not offered in Elecrafts built in keyers.
>

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