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K5WA

Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

This might be a question for an HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe software) group, but
since I'm only interested in connecting my K3s, I thought I'd see if anyone
was on top of this. Does HRD allow some type of encoder input whereby I
could have a "real" VFO knob adjusting frequency rather than using a mouse?
If so, has anyone set it up over a remote link such as an internet
connection?

I would love to see Elecraft make a product that matches the K3's style of
VFO knob for such a purpose.

Bob K5WA

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Mike Reublin

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

Bob, what's the advantage of that over the knob ON the rig?

73, Mike NF4L

K5WA wrote:

> This might be a question for an HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe software) group, but
> since I'm only interested in connecting my K3s, I thought I'd see if anyone
> was on top of this. Does HRD allow some type of encoder input whereby I
> could have a "real" VFO knob adjusting frequency rather than using a mouse?
> If so, has anyone set it up over a remote link such as an internet
> connection?
>
>
>
> I would love to see Elecraft make a product that matches the K3's style of
> VFO knob for such a purpose.
>
>
>
> Bob K5WA
>
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M0XDF

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

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A Griffin PowerMate (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate) allows you to do this with some s/w - not sure about HRD, as Simon.

I use this with MacLoggerDx (and have been for about 10 years) - works a treat :-)
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On 20 Mar 2010, at 14:48, K5WA wrote:

M0XDF

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

In reply to this post by Mike Reublin

You can sit with the k/b under your fingertips and tune with your arm resting on the desk, so if your s&p or looking for that rare DX, its less tiring.
73 de M0XDF

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On 20 Mar 2010, at 15:01, Mike wrote:

> Bob, what's the advantage of that over the knob ON the rig?
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> K5WA wrote:
>> This might be a question for an HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe software) group, but
>> since I'm only interested in connecting my K3s, I thought I'd see if anyone
>> was on top of this. Does HRD allow some type of encoder input whereby I
>> could have a "real" VFO knob adjusting frequency rather than using a mouse?
>> If so, has anyone set it up over a remote link such as an internet
>> connection?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would love to see Elecraft make a product that matches the K3's style of
>> VFO knob for such a purpose.

Julian, G4ILO

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

In reply to this post by M0XDF

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote

A Griffin PowerMate (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate) allows you to do this with some s/w - not sure about HRD, as Simon.

I use this with MacLoggerDx (and have been for about 10 years) - works a treat :-)

There is a program on my website called KTune that allows you to use a Griffin PowerMate for this. However, you have to use some serial port sharing software because it needs to talk directly to the K3. I used VSPE, but I don't know if that works with HRD. LP-Bridge might work - haven't tried it.

If HRD supports keystrokes for tuning up and down then you could configure the PowerMate software to send those keystrokes straight to HRD, in nwhich case you wouldn't need KTune.

Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

K5WA

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

In reply to this post by Mike Reublin

The knob ON the rig is 60 miles away from my home so I'm looking for
something other than HRD's mouse control to augment the feel of a remote
station control system.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through
HRD?

Bob, what's the advantage of that over the knob ON the rig?

73, Mike NF4L

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K5WA

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

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David,

Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping someone in the K3 community had
already done this successfully but I guess an email to Simon is what I
should do next.

73,

Bob K5WA

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:02 AM
To: K5WA
Cc: 'Elecraft reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through
HRD?

A Griffin PowerMate (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate)
allows you to do this with some s/w - not sure about HRD, as Simon.

I use this with MacLoggerDx (and have been for about 10 years) - works a
treat :-)
--
There is no pillow so soft as a clear conscience. -French proverb

On 20 Mar 2010, at 14:48, K5WA wrote:

> This might be a question for an HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe software) group, but
> since I'm only interested in connecting my K3s, I thought I'd see if
anyone
> was on top of this. Does HRD allow some type of encoder input whereby I
> could have a "real" VFO knob adjusting frequency rather than using a
mouse?
> If so, has anyone set it up over a remote link such as an internet
> connection?
>
>
>
> I would love to see Elecraft make a product that matches the K3's style of
> VFO knob for such a purpose.

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Mike Reublin

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

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I missed that part in the original post. :-[

Mike

K5WA wrote:

> The knob ON the rig is 60 miles away from my home so I'm looking for
> something other than HRD's mouse control to augment the feel of a remote
> station control system.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:02 AM
> To: K5WA
> Cc: 'Elecraft reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through
> HRD?
>
> Bob, what's the advantage of that over the knob ON the rig?
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
>
>

Greg - AB7R

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

In reply to this post by K5WA

There's a probram out there called KTune that allows a Griffin Powermate
to stay connected to the K3 regardless of what window has focus on your
computer. It works nicely. Also...for an added touch, order a spare
rubber ring that goes on the K3 VFO-A knob and a finger dimple. The
ring fits perfectly over the powermate.

73
Greg

On 3/20/2010 12:14 PM, K5WA wrote:

> David,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping someone in the K3 community had
> already done this successfully but I guess an email to Simon is what I
> should do next.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob K5WA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:02 AM
> To: K5WA
> Cc: 'Elecraft reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through
> HRD?
>
> A Griffin PowerMate (http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/powermate)
> allows you to do this with some s/w - not sure about HRD, as Simon.
>
> I use this with MacLoggerDx (and have been for about 10 years) - works a
> treat :-)
>
>
>
>
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

Greg,

Thanks for that information. I have not tried it yet, but if KTune
works no matter what window has focus, then that is a big "selling point".
I plan to try it through LP-Bridge.

I am not certain this addresses the original question about use of a
Griffen PowerMate at a remote location, but it certainly does help those
who have a local K3. I would imagine that for use in a remote K3
situation, the PowerMate would have to emulate tuning to the application
being used for remote operation rather than directly to the K3. (Julian,
correct me if I am wrong on that assumption.)

73,
Don W3FPR

Greg wrote:

> There's a probram out there called KTune that allows a Griffin Powermate
> to stay connected to the K3 regardless of what window has focus on your
> computer. It works nicely. Also...for an added touch, order a spare
> rubber ring that goes on the K3 VFO-A knob and a finger dimple. The
> ring fits perfectly over the powermate.
>
> 73
> Greg
>
>

Julian, G4ILO

Re: Slightly OT: Physical tuning knob for K3 through HRD?

You are correct, Don. I too missed that the K3 was being operated remotely.

As I said earlier, if it is possible to change frequency using the keyboard with HRD then it should be possible to program the PowerMate driver to send the same keystrokes to HRD, so KTune would not be necessary. The only difference is that HRD would have to be in the foreground, whereas KTune captures global hotkeys so it continues to work whatever application you are currently using.

Don Wilhelm-4 wrote

Greg,

Thanks for that information. I have not tried it yet, but if KTune
works no matter what window has focus, then that is a big "selling point".
I plan to try it through LP-Bridge.

I am not certain this addresses the original question about use of a
Griffen PowerMate at a remote location, but it certainly does help those
who have a local K3. I would imagine that for use in a remote K3
situation, the PowerMate would have to emulate tuning to the application
being used for remote operation rather than directly to the K3. (Julian,
correct me if I am wrong on that assumption.)

Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html