Slow-scan TV (SSTV) display on the P3 and PX3?

[wayne burdick]

Hi all,

Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one who's interested.

If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given limited engineering time.

73,
Wayne
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Perhaps it's different people involved in programming, but I would like to see
instead of this, some effort put into making the K3 memories actually remember
and recall what was input to them.

Wes  N7WS



On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one who's interested.
>
> If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given limited engineering time.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
> wish-list for our panadapters?


hi Wayne - If you were to do decoding/processing like that, I'd much rather
see an extended form of RTTY decode. The decode on the K3 front panel is
cool for computer-less work, but as soon as you have a computer it becomes
less useful.

This is from a serious contesting perspective. When I'm running I'm using
several screens to pull out marginal signals. Those screens buffer the
decoded text long enough for me to look at all of them and make a decision
about what is correct. By this time the small display on the K3 has
scrolled away.

If on the other hand you had an overlay of text** on the P3 display I now
have it buffered long enough to add it to my decision path as another set
of data from a decoder that has different characteristics than my other
decoders (MMTTY, 2Tone, hardware modems, etc.)

A feature like this would seem to have a broader audience than for SSTV,
but perhaps I'm partial...;)

** I would overlay the display with white text over the color waterfall so
that I can still see waterfall history behind the text. I want it all.

thanks and 73 jeff wk6i


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[KV5J]

I would like to see the NB added to the P3SVGA first.


Keith

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On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
> SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
> eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
> idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
> who's interested.

You might try MMSSTV or MixW and just monitor 14230 for awhile before
putting any engineering effort into it.  I let MixW run on 14230 all one
weekend and then went back and looked at some of the images [MixW saves
all received images].  A surprising number [like half] were unanswered
CQ's with pictures of scantily clad women.  I haven't checked it in a
number of years.

There are some digital SSTV signals starting around 14233 or so ... I
don't know anything about them.
>
> If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV
> format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably
> universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given
> limited engineering time.

There's a half dozen or more analog modes, most of what I decoded was
one of the Scottie's [there are several].  I suspect that, to be
attractive, your software would need to decode the digital burst at the
beginning and auto-select the mode like MixW does.

We all get to use whatever modes we want ... personally, I was bored by
SSTV and haven't looked at it in years.  YMMV however.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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[KV5J]

How about being one of the first to implement FreeDV?


Keith

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Whatever happened to the RF Sensor?

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The capability to see my transmitted signal would be really great, much
more useful than SSTV, at least for me.  Probably very hard to do with
the PX3.  Probably also harder than many think with a K-Line because you
want to see what's heading up the coax, not something from inside the
K3.  But it would be a cool addition for me.

73,

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On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
> SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
> eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
> idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
> who's interested.

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I'd rather see the long ago promised enhancement to separate VOX in SSB from VOX in Data modes.

73, Mike NF4L
 
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> The capability to see my transmitted signal would be really great, much more useful than SSTV, at least for me.  Probably very hard to do with the PX3.  Probably also harder than many think with a K-Line because you want to see what's heading up the coax, not something from inside the K3.  But it would be a cool addition for me.
>
> 73,
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> On 8/15/2014 2:56 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
>> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter
>> SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to
>> eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced
>> idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one
>> who's interested.
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[Nr4c]

Is like to see this, but....
I'd rather not have work on other updates like something to put in the "Sensor" hole in my P3 and others.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Aug 15, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter SSB segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to eavesdrop on the visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced idiosyncrasies. But we won't bother with this if I'm the only one who's interested.
>
> If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV format(s) to support. If there's just one that's reasonably universal, great. I'm pretty sure we'd start with just one, given limited engineering time.
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> 73,
> Wayne
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In the works as we speak.

Wayne


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> Whatever happened to the RF Sensor?
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Wayne,

Whew, hope it's not too far away.

Thanks for the news.

Gary


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I'm with you Wayne although it looks like we are very much the minority at this
time. I would really like to have SSTV added to the P3.
Tx monitoring would good too.
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In 58 years on the air,  I've never known anyone who was/is active on SSTV,
and I have no interest ... FWIW. (;-)

73

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> Hi all,
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> Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
> wish-list for our panadapters? I hear SSTV signals in the 20-meter SSB
> segment pretty regularly, and I think it would be nice to eavesdrop on the
> visuals, in living color, with all the HF-induced idiosyncrasies. But we
> won't bother with this if I'm the only one who's interested.
>
> If we did consider adding SSTV, we'd need to decide which SSTV format(s)
> to support. If there's just one that's reasonably universal, great. I'm
> pretty sure we'd start with just one, given limited engineering time.
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> 73,
> Wayne
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In a recent message, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> writes
>Is SSTV demodulation/display something we should add to the long term
>wish-list for our panadapters?

Oo, yes please, Wayne, I like the idea of using a K3/KX3 without having
to rely on a computer being used and hence adding to the ever increasing
ambient noise level.  But I thought SSTV was already on the long term
wish list as it was discussed several years ago?  I would be pleased to
alpha test this when you're ready.

In anticipation, 73

David G4DMP

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That is really good news :-)

73 de David G4DMP

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Back before MIR went kerplunk, there were a lot of interesting SSTV images coming down from aboard. Haven't seen anything of much interest since then, but haven't looked in a while.

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[Wes (N7WS)]

56 year here.  Same level of interest.

On 8/15/2014 9:19 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
> In 58 years on the air,  I've never known anyone who was/is active on SSTV,
> and I have no interest ... FWIW. (;-)
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58 years here and not interested in SSTV.
73,
Troy

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56 year here.  Same level of interest.

On 8/15/2014 9:19 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
> In 58 years on the air,  I've never known anyone who was/is active on
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I would love to see this

as a Long time SSTV Fan this is a very nice feature






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That is really good news :-)

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