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David Fleming-2

So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?

Here you go...

http:/sight.net/K3Meter

And there's a Windows version too! :)

Enjoy!

David, W4SMT
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Joe Subich, W4TV-3

RE: So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?

David,

I'd suggest some averaging ... perhaps five or 10 sample
log weighted moving average ... and recommend converting
from BG; to SM; polling since the BG; scale is truncated
if CWT is selected in CW or data modes.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

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>
> Here you go...
>
> http:/sight.net/K3Meter
>
> And there's a Windows version too! :)
>
> Enjoy!
>
> David, W4SMT
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Julian, G4ILO

RE: So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?

Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote

David,

I'd suggest some averaging ... perhaps five or 10 sample
log weighted moving average ... and recommend converting
from BG; to SM; polling since the BG; scale is truncated
if CWT is selected in CW or data modes.

This is new information that I don't even see in the K3 Prog Ref, which says that the SM command is only provided for support of legacy (presumably Kenwood) apps, and that new software should use the BG command.

Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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David Fleming-2

RE: So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?

The BG command does indeed truncate to S9 when CWT is selected. SM does not. I chose BG because it reports during TX. I'll be switching to SM because the BG data currently being reported during transmit is either SWR or CMP, depending on the RF/ALC selection; although the programmer's reference says it reports RF or ALC levels.. This may change.

David, W4SMT

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Julian, G4ILO <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Julian, G4ILO <[hidden email]>
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
> Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote:
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I'd suggest some averaging ... perhaps five or 10
> sample
> > log weighted moving average ... and recommend
> converting
> > from BG; to SM; polling since the BG; scale is
> truncated
> > if CWT is selected in CW or data modes.
> >
> >
> This is new information that I don't even see in the K3
> Prog Ref, which says
> that the SM command is only provided for support of legacy
> (presumably
> Kenwood) apps, and that new software should use the BG
> command.
>
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David Fleming-2

K3 Meter - MUCH improved

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-3

I've implemented a moving average algorithm that adds a tremendous amount of realism to the meter. HUGE difference. Also converted to the SM; command to avoid truncation with CWT enabled.

Big thanks to Joe Subich for his help with the moving average code.

http://sight.net/K3Meter

Where did the weekend go?

David, W4SMT

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]>
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?
> To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:52 AM
> David,
>
> I'd suggest some averaging ... perhaps five or 10
> sample
> log weighted moving average ... and recommend converting
> from BG; to SM; polling since the BG; scale is truncated
> if CWT is selected in CW or data modes.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> David Fleming
> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:10 AM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] So you want an analog s-meter for
> the K3?
> >
> >
> > Here you go...
> >
> > http:/sight.net/K3Meter
> >
> > And there's a Windows version too! :)
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > David, W4SMT
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Doug Alspaugh

Re: K3 Meter - MUCH improved

Now your cookin.

73 Doug N3QW

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Fleming" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Meter - MUCH improved

>
> I've implemented a moving average algorithm that adds a tremendous amount
> of realism to the meter. HUGE difference. Also converted to the SM;
> command to avoid truncation with CWT enabled.
>
> Big thanks to Joe Subich for his help with the moving average code.
>
> http://sight.net/K3Meter
>
> Where did the weekend go?
>
> David, W4SMT
>
> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] So you want an analog s-meter for the K3?
>> To: [hidden email], [hidden email]
>> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:52 AM
>> David,
>>
>> I'd suggest some averaging ... perhaps five or 10
>> sample
>> log weighted moving average ... and recommend converting
>> from BG; to SM; polling since the BG; scale is truncated
>> if CWT is selected in CW or data modes.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [hidden email]
>> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> David Fleming
>> > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:10 AM
>> > To: [hidden email]
>> > Subject: [Elecraft] So you want an analog s-meter for
>> the K3?
>> >
>> >
>> > Here you go...
>> >
>> > http:/sight.net/K3Meter
>> >
>> > And there's a Windows version too! :)
>> >
>> > Enjoy!
>> >
>> > David, W4SMT
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Ian Maude

Re: K3 Meter - MUCH improved

In reply to this post by David Fleming-2

David Fleming wrote:
> I've implemented a moving average algorithm that adds a tremendous amount of realism to the meter. HUGE difference. Also converted to the SM; command to avoid truncation with CWT enabled.
>
> Big thanks to Joe Subich for his help with the moving average code.
>
> http://sight.net/K3Meter
>
> Where did the weekend go?
>
Works really well under wine too. Nice one David :)

73 Ian

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Grant Youngman

Q re Missing K3 Kit part

In reply to this post by David Fleming-2

I'm missing one lousy part -- a 5/8" nylon standoff that gets mounted
on the DSP board (assembly errata E-7, item 3) to provide some spacing
from the front panel board.

While I wait for Elecraft to see my email on Monday and send the part,
anyone know if this is a show stopper, or if I can proceed and come
back around and install this after the fact?

Thanks ... Grant/NQ5T

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Jeff Wandling W7BRS

Re: Q re Missing K3 Kit part

It's not a show stopper.

It just helps you provide a little extra pressure as you push the FP to
the RF board. It's nylon, it doesn't make a connection so there's no
apparent impact to the circuit.

I didn't have the stand off either in my kit SN 2105. I managed to use my
finger to push the DSP board (tight squeeze) as I sandwiched the FP+DSP
onto the RF board. You have to be careful not to flex the boards.

It'll go. The connectors on the RF board to the FP will mate easier than
you think.

Be careful, but it's not a show stopper.

Of course, Elecraft may have a different answer...

-jeff

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Grant Youngman wrote:

>
> I'm missing one lousy part -- a 5/8" nylon standoff that gets mounted on the
> DSP board (assembly errata E-7, item 3) to provide some spacing from the
> front panel board.
>
> While I wait for Elecraft to see my email on Monday and send the part, anyone
> know if this is a show stopper, or if I can proceed and come back around and
> install this after the fact?
>
> Thanks ... Grant/NQ5T
>
>
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Grant Youngman

Re: Q re Missing K3 Kit part

Thanks.

After looking more closely, I realized that the standoff just provides
extra stiffening at the connector. I found a hex nylon standoff in my
junk box, that works perfectly. It's was threaded 6-32, but it's a
snug enough fit without being screwed in place once the DSP board is
mounted.

Onward and upward .. :)

Grant/NQ5T

On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote:

> It's not a show stopper.
>
> It just helps you provide a little extra pressure as you push the FP
> to the RF board. It's nylon, it doesn't make a connection so
> there's no apparent impact to the circuit.
>
>>
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Grant Youngman

Re: Q re Missing K3 Kit part

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>> I'm missing one lousy part -- a 5/8" nylon standoff that gets
>> mounted on the DSP board (assembly errata E-7, item 3) to provide
>> some spacing from the front panel board.

Thanks to everyone who responded to this query. The issue is resolved.

Just got the covers installed, and I'm about to power up and start
setup and calibration :)

Grant/NQ5T

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