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Jeremiah McCarthy
Once again I read about having to change the tip in the Weller WTCP soldering station in order to change the temperature...This is just not so and makes me wonder if I am listening to someone who has never used the Weller...I have both the Weller WTCP and the Hakko 936 and the Weller wins, hands down...In my working days, over 40 years of soldering, I used Wellers, Paces, Edsyns, you name it, the Weller WTCP is my first choice...And, it is MADE IN THE USA!!!...

The temperature controlling element in the Weller is the tip..If the tip is not hot enough, the heater will come on and STAY on until it is hot enough...The Hakko's temperature is controlled by a thermostat that is mounted on the heater  up inside the handle...It is controlling the temperature of the heater, not the tip, and is at the top of the heater, as far away from the tip as you can get...I have had instances with my Hakko where the solder wire welded itself to the tip and would not come loose until the tip heated more, yet the idiot light on the control unit was flashing merrily on and off, indicating it was hot enough...

I use a PTB7 tip in the Weller for 99% of my work, including soldering the ground pins on the BNC connectors in the KX1 and the binocular cores in the KPA100...I have been using the same tip for years and it never discolors...The only time I have ever had to change a tip is when working room was the problem...We would have to change the tip in any iron under those circumstances, wouldn't we?...

My Hakko 936 is for sale...It has been used once, is effectively new, is still in original wraps in the original box, and comes with 2 extra tips and a brass-wool tip cleaner, and I will guarantee it...The first $65 dollar check takes it...

Jerry, wa2dkg
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Re: Soldering stations

John   [K7SVV]-2
My favorite iron is also a WTCP but it is probably older than some of the
folks on this reflector.  The only way to change its temperature is to
replace the tip.  I have four different tips but they are all set for 700
degress.  They are different only in their shape and size.  I only use my
Hakko 936 when I am working with surface mount devices.  I will be using the
WTCP next week when the K2 I ordered this morning arrives.  I just can't be
without a K2.

John   [K7SVV]

On 4/15/06, Jeremiah McCarthy <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Once again I read about having to change the tip in the Weller WTCP
> soldering station in order to change the temperature...This is just not so
> and makes me wonder if I am listening to someone who has never used the
> Weller...I have both the Weller WTCP and the Hakko 936 and the Weller wins,
> hands down...In my working days, over 40 years of soldering, I used Wellers,
> Paces, Edsyns, you name it, the Weller WTCP is my first choice...And, it is
> MADE IN THE USA!!!...
>
> The temperature controlling element in the Weller is the tip..If the tip
> is not hot enough, the heater will come on and STAY on until it is hot
> enough...The Hakko's temperature is controlled by a thermostat that is
> mounted on the heater  up inside the handle...It is controlling the
> temperature of the heater, not the tip, and is at the top of the heater, as
> far away from the tip as you can get...I have had instances with my Hakko
> where the solder wire welded itself to the tip and would not come loose
> until the tip heated more, yet the idiot light on the control unit was
> flashing merrily on and off, indicating it was hot enough...
>
> I use a PTB7 tip in the Weller for 99% of my work, including soldering the
> ground pins on the BNC connectors in the KX1 and the binocular cores in the
> KPA100...I have been using the same tip for years and it never
> discolors...The only time I have ever had to change a tip is when working
> room was the problem...We would have to change the tip in any iron under
> those circumstances, wouldn't we?...
>
> My Hakko 936 is for sale...It has been used once, is effectively new, is
> still in original wraps in the original box, and comes with 2 extra tips and
> a brass-wool tip cleaner, and I will guarantee it...The first $65 dollar
> check takes it...
>
> Jerry, wa2dkg
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RE: Soldering stations

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
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Jerry WA2DKG wrote:
Once again I read about having to change the tip in the Weller WTCP
soldering station in order to change the temperature...This is just not so
and makes me wonder if I am listening to someone who has never used the
Weller...I have both the Weller WTCP and the Hakko 936 and the Weller wins,
hands down...In my working days, over 40 years of soldering, I used Wellers,
Paces, Edsyns, you name it, the Weller WTCP is my first choice...And, it is
MADE IN THE USA!!!...

----------------

Sorry, that was probably me. In a post a few days ago I mentioned needing to
change the tip on the Weller being a disincentive when compared to a
comparably-priced Hakko 936. I was referring to the popular,
moderately-priced WTCPT line that does require tip changes to change
temperatures, but I didn't list it by model.

I'm a Weller fan from way back. I still own a Weller soldering gun that
works as well today as when I opened the box in 1952.

I've been around Weller soldering stations much as we know them today since
the 1960's when I worked at Motorola Research Labs. So, in spite of my
owning a Hakko that gets heavy use and works FB, I have no bad comments to
make about Weller. I chose the Hakko on the basis of features vs. price and
discovered that I like the lighter pencil iron even better than the Wellers
I've used, but I'd not suggest to anyone they forsake a good working Weller.


My comments were in response to a post by someone asking about Hakkos in
particular.

Ron AC7AC

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Re: Soldering stations

Alexandra Carter
WRONG. You do have to change the tip on the Magnetrol type Weller
stations, of which the WTCPT is one, that's the beauty of it - no
nimrod technicians cranking a variable control up to 900 degrees and
lifting pads. I was just in fry's today buying two tips for my own
beloved WTCPT, a 700 degree fine point tip and an 800 degree flat tip.
73 de Alex NS6Y (whose KX1 LED turns out to be white after all).


On Apr 15, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> Jerry WA2DKG wrote:
> Once again I read about having to change the tip in the Weller WTCP
> soldering station in order to change the temperature...This is just
> not so
> and makes me wonder if I am listening to someone who has never used the
> Weller...I have both the Weller WTCP and the Hakko 936 and the Weller
> wins,
> hands down...In my working days, over 40 years of soldering, I used
> Wellers,
> Paces, Edsyns, you name it, the Weller WTCP is my first choice...And,
> it is
> MADE IN THE USA!!!...
>

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Mark Bayern-2
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You do change the tip to change the temperature -- from your message
'the temerature controlling element in the Weller is the tip', and 'I
use a PTB7 tip'.  The 7 in the part number is the temperature of the
tip. It is a 700 deg F tip.

Mark  AD5SS

On 4/15/06, Jeremiah McCarthy <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Once again I read about having to change the tip in the Weller WTCP soldering station in order to change the temperature...This is just not so and makes me wonder if I am listening to someone who has never used the Weller...I have both the Weller WTCP and the Hakko 936 and the Weller wins, hands down...In my working days, over 40 years of soldering, I used Wellers, Paces, Edsyns, you name it, the Weller WTCP is my first choice...And, it is MADE IN THE USA!!!...
>
> The temperature controlling element in the Weller is the tip..If the tip is not hot enough, the heater will come on and STAY on until it is hot enough...The Hakko's temperature is controlled by a thermostat that is mounted on the heater  up inside the handle...It is controlling the temperature of the heater, not the tip, and is at the top of the heater, as far away from the tip as you can get...I have had instances with my Hakko where the solder wire welded itself to the tip and would not come loose until the tip heated more, yet the idiot light on the control unit was flashing merrily on and off, indicating it was hot enough...
>
> I use a PTB7 tip in the Weller for 99% of my work, including soldering the ground pins on the BNC connectors in the KX1 and the binocular cores in the KPA100...I have been using the same tip for years and it never discolors...The only time I have ever had to change a tip is when working room was the problem...We would have to change the tip in any iron under those circumstances, wouldn't we?...
>
> My Hakko 936 is for sale...It has been used once, is effectively new, is still in original wraps in the original box, and comes with 2 extra tips and a brass-wool tip cleaner, and I will guarantee it...The first $65 dollar check takes it...
>
> Jerry, wa2dkg
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