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I would like to propose a special list for the chosen "beta testers" to boast to each other about their "special connection" to the powers at elecraft and new software that the vast unwashed is not ready to receive. The beta testers should communicate but do the rest of us have to read what we are missing? I don't like the feeling that there are "classes" of elecraft customers, my money is as good as anyone else's. This is the good old USA not czarist russia.
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Richard I disagree with you comments to some degree. Elecraft is super responsive in getting software to beta status and selects alpha testers to help, this group is a smaller set of folks that have an interest in what ever is being developed and likely to have useful comments. These folks are fearless in trying new software that might render their radios mute.
I have alpha tested some of the firmware mods and have kept my comments private to Wayne and Eric. I feel that in testing an alpha version of anything it is usually a good idea to not share broadly your impressions, good or bad since everything is subject to modification at that point in time. I find the discussion currently underway to be fascinating but I am happy to see other alpha tester sloging through the iterations before I get a chance to see it as a beta release. 73 Dan
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Oh for crying out loud, what are you 6 years old? if you want the beta software just ask for it, and be ready to do real testing with it. There's no class of Elecraft users here... There are those that expressed an interest to Wayne and received code to TEST so that other wouldn't have to deal with any of the problems before it was released. Now use your keyboard for something more productive and email Wayne if you want it so bad. Jeasssss. Sorry, I just said what everyone else was thinking.. But I'm rude, and I know it. > From: [hidden email] > Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:57:12 -0700 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Special List > > I would like to propose a special list for the chosen "beta testers" to boast to each other about their "special connection" to the powers at elecraft and new software that the vast unwashed is not ready to receive. The beta testers should communicate but do the rest of us have to read what we are missing? I don't like the feeling that there are "classes" of elecraft customers, my money is as good as anyone else's. This is the good old USA not czarist russia. > > k6cg > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Just a WAG on my part, but I'd be willing to bet it wouldn't be impossible to join
the elite. An email to Wayne might do it... 73, Mike NF4L On 10/29/2010 1:35 PM, AB3EN wrote: > Richard I disagree with you comments to some degree. Elecraft is super > responsive in getting software to beta status and selects alpha testers to > help, this group is a smaller set of folks that have an interest in what > ever is being developed and likely to have useful comments. These folks are > fearless in trying new software that might render their radios mute. > > I have alpha tested some of the firmware mods and have kept my comments > private to Wayne and Eric. I feel that in testing an alpha version of > anything it is usually a good idea to not share broadly your impressions, > good or bad since everything is subject to modification at that point in > time. I find the discussion currently underway to be fascinating but I am > happy to see other alpha tester sloging through the iterations before I get > a chance to see it as a beta release. > > 73 > Dan > > > > Richard Thorpe wrote: >> I would like to propose a special list for the chosen "beta testers" to >> boast to each other about their "special connection" to the powers at >> elecraft and new software that the vast unwashed is not ready to receive. >> The beta testers should communicate but do the rest of us have to read >> what we are missing? I don't like the feeling that there are "classes" of >> elecraft customers, my money is as good as anyone else's. This is the >> good old USA not czarist russia. >> >> k6cg >> > > ----- > > Dan AB3EN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In fact, this was the first time I ever received an advance look at a
piece of K3 software, and that was because I expressed interest in an e-mail. I had understood that Wayne welcomed seeing our comments on the regular Elecraft list. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 10/29/2010 2:26 PM, Mike wrote: > Just a WAG on my part, but I'd be willing to bet it wouldn't be impossible to join > the elite. An email to Wayne might do it... > > 73, Mike NF4L > > On 10/29/2010 1:35 PM, AB3EN wrote: > >> Richard I disagree with you comments to some degree. Elecraft is super >> responsive in getting software to beta status and selects alpha testers to >> help, this group is a smaller set of folks that have an interest in what >> ever is being developed and likely to have useful comments. These folks are >> fearless in trying new software that might render their radios mute. >> >> I have alpha tested some of the firmware mods and have kept my comments >> private to Wayne and Eric. I feel that in testing an alpha version of >> anything it is usually a good idea to not share broadly your impressions, >> good or bad since everything is subject to modification at that point in >> time. I find the discussion currently underway to be fascinating but I am >> happy to see other alpha tester sloging through the iterations before I get >> a chance to see it as a beta release. >> >> 73 >> Dan >> >> >> >> Richard Thorpe wrote: >> >>> I would like to propose a special list for the chosen "beta testers" to >>> boast to each other about their "special connection" to the powers at >>> elecraft and new software that the vast unwashed is not ready to receive. >>> The beta testers should communicate but do the rest of us have to read >>> what we are missing? I don't like the feeling that there are "classes" of >>> elecraft customers, my money is as good as anyone else's. This is the >>> good old USA not czarist russia. >>> >>> k6cg >>> >>> >> ----- >> >> Dan AB3EN >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Richard,
Like most high-tech companies, we perform a lot of internal testing of our products before we release them using very small groups of 'alpha tester' customers. It certainly is not a privileged group. :-) In this case, we are testing the APF function in a -partially- completed version of K3 firmware that is not quite ready for wider release. (All of the matching menu entries are not completed) This gives us early and fast feedback on any issues. Its also agreed by participants that testing at this stage runs the risk of unforeseen problems, which is why we do this first at a very small scale before the next stage of release. The last thing we want to do is to unleash extremely early K3 code on a broad swath customers. Once it passes the alpha test level we then release it on the web site as -beta- software for those that wish to try out early releases. At that stage it is usually very stable and most feedback relates to minor changes in operation etc. Once we see good response from that group, we then go to final release on the web site. In this case the feedback from the testers was so positive that we allowed them to go public with their comments. We will be releasing the code as beta on the web as soon as we add the additional menu features. Overall our goal is top provide the highest level of quality possible. this process really helps us get there quickly. 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com --- On 10/29/2010 9:57 AM, Richard Thorpe wrote: > I would like to propose a special list for the chosen "beta testers" to boast to each other about their "special connection" to the powers at elecraft and new software that the vast unwashed is not ready to receive. The beta testers should communicate but do the rest of us have to read what we are missing? I don't like the feeling that there are "classes" of elecraft customers, my money is as good as anyone else's. This is the good old USA not czarist russia. > k6cg > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Actually, I think "this" is Russia, Poland, Japan, Korea, South Africa, Namibia, Canary Islands, Argentina, Mexico, New Zealand, Thailand, and a whole bunch of spots in between.
Why would you think that this list is "good old USA"? It's Elecraft, and that is everywhere, and proud of it, I believe. Viva Elecraft! Rich NU6T -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Thorpe <[hidden email]> >Sent: Oct 29, 2010 9:57 AM >To: [hidden email] >Subject: [Elecraft] Special List > >I would like to propose a special list for the chosen "beta testers" to boast to each other about their "special connection" to the powers at elecraft and new software that the vast unwashed is not ready to receive. The beta testers should communicate but do the rest of us have to read what we are missing? I don't like the feeling that there are "classes" of elecraft customers, my money is as good as anyone else's. This is the good old USA not czarist russia. > >k6cg >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Dear Friends,
Surely one can understand a small group of people being used as Alpha not Beta testers. The problems for Elecraft could become excessive if every partially developed change was released onto the rest of us. The testers are not limited to W land, I know that Brendan Minish in EI land is also a tester. Let us live with this system which works well and be happy that our radio is still improving! I can hardly believe the service we receive from Elecraft. I second the Viva Elecraft comment! Life is indeed good. 73 Doug EI2CN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Folks - Let's end this thread. Its way OT and outside of the list
guidelines in both tone and content. 73, Eric On 10/29/2010 12:29 PM, Richard Hill wrote: > Actually, I think "this" is Russia, Poland, Japan, Korea, South Africa, Namibia, Canary Islands, Argentina, Mexico, New Zealand, Thailand, and a whole bunch of spots in between. > > Why would you think that this list is "good old USA"? It's Elecraft, and that is everywhere, and proud of it, I believe. Viva Elecraft! > > Rich > NU6T ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Elecraft owners have listened to the wishes of some owners who were able to define a feature that would improve the fantastic K3 transceivers. I am willing to bet Elecraft guys have developed this enhancement to the K3 rigs and will be GIVING IT AWAY to current owners as well as to new buyers. Not only that, they have arranged to have some other small group of guys to help debug it and enhance it so when it is GIVEN to us it will work exactly as promised. Not only that they will add this new feature to the very long list of features that they fully support, 100%. I am amazed, and grateful for the responsiveness of these guys. You see, I owned an FT-1000MP bought in 1997. It had horrible key clicks. I understand many guys asked Yaesu for a fix - no answer, they continued to build rigs. Then a couple US guys developed fixes of their own, and still Yaesu continued to build those rigs that clicked 5 kHz up and down the band. It has only been in the last few years that they got their act together. Thousands of high end rigs are on the bands QRMing like crazy. Just listen next month when the CW DX contest is on to all the key clicks on 160 and 80 meters, those are the unmodified FT1000MPs. I tore into mine, took out a couple layers of boards, added the components, and then tested it on a spectrum analyzer to verify the improvement. Very few hams can or are willing to do that, what the manufacturer should do. Remember, Yaesu never even acknowledged the problem! Oh yeah, we have friends right at the very top in Elecraft, who listen , and who act, and who are extremely generous. Un-friggin-believable. But then, nearly everyone on this reflector already knows this! Rick K2XT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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