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Brian F. Wruble-2

Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

Hi All:

The symptom I am describing persists despite changing routers, internet
systems, and cities. In a QSO this morning, the other parties reported a
ticking sound on my transmitted signal --- faint but noticeable --- and I
could also hear it in XMIT Monitor. I was operating my remote gear as a
test --- in the same room as the K3, and on the same LAN.

I have now set myself up 110 miles away, and the sound persists. I am able
to work others, get good signal reports, but I can hear the tick tick tick,
about 2 per second.

In testing, I find the sound is there even if I power down the gear --- the
radio and the control end. It persists if I remove 12VDC from the K3/0
mini. Also if I remove the wifi module from the RemoteRig control box.

If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the RR,
the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
line from the RemoteRig to my PC.

This symptom appeared after a good period of time when everything worked.
And all functionality is still there --- just this maddening tick tick tick
--- like something from Edgar Allan Poe.

All ideas gratefully accepted.

73 de Brian W3BW

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

Brian,

If it goes away when you unplug the line from the RR box to the K3/0,
then --
That sounds suspiciously like a Remote Rig problem. I would recommend
contacting the support folks at Remote Rig for ideas on the cause and
solution.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/5/2014 5:36 PM, Brian F. Wruble wrote:
> If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the RR,
> the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
> Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
> if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
> connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
> line from the RemoteRig to my PC.
>
>

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Oliver Dröse

Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

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Hi Brian,

I have never heard anybody complaining about my signal having a ticking
noise. But, when I power down the K3/0 mini I hear it, too, and quite
loud. It goes away as soon as I disconnect my mic from the mini! No
matter if using the front socket or the 3,5 mm socket. As soon as a mic
is plugged in and the mini is turned off there's ticking. Must be
something in the mini itself (or the mini in conjunction the the RR
controller) as I did not have it when I still had the old PCBs inside
(before the swap against the new ones with a display readable when tilted).

Can you confirm the ticking goes away in your setup when you un-plug the
mic? That might give Elecraft a hint for trouble shooting.

Tnx & 73, Olli - DH8BQA

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Am 05.10.2014 23:36, schrieb Brian F. Wruble:

> Hi All:
>
> The symptom I am describing persists despite changing routers, internet
> systems, and cities. In a QSO this morning, the other parties reported a
> ticking sound on my transmitted signal --- faint but noticeable --- and I
> could also hear it in XMIT Monitor. I was operating my remote gear as a
> test --- in the same room as the K3, and on the same LAN.
>
> I have now set myself up 110 miles away, and the sound persists. I am able
> to work others, get good signal reports, but I can hear the tick tick tick,
> about 2 per second.
>
> In testing, I find the sound is there even if I power down the gear --- the
> radio and the control end. It persists if I remove 12VDC from the K3/0
> mini. Also if I remove the wifi module from the RemoteRig control box.
>
> If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the RR,
> the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
> Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
> if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
> connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
> line from the RemoteRig to my PC.
>
> This symptom appeared after a good period of time when everything worked.
> And all functionality is still there --- just this maddening tick tick tick
> --- like something from Edgar Allan Poe.
>
> All ideas gratefully accepted.
>
> 73 de Brian W3BW
>
> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

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USB or serial port polling? Try a different adapter or one that uses an optoisolater

Craig Buck

> On Oct 5, 2014, at 5:36 PM, "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
> The symptom I am describing persists despite changing routers, internet
> systems, and cities. In a QSO this morning, the other parties reported a
> ticking sound on my transmitted signal --- faint but noticeable --- and I
> could also hear it in XMIT Monitor. I was operating my remote gear as a
> test --- in the same room as the K3, and on the same LAN.
>
> I have now set myself up 110 miles away, and the sound persists. I am able
> to work others, get good signal reports, but I can hear the tick tick tick,
> about 2 per second.
>
> In testing, I find the sound is there even if I power down the gear --- the
> radio and the control end. It persists if I remove 12VDC from the K3/0
> mini. Also if I remove the wifi module from the RemoteRig control box.
>
> If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the RR,
> the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
> Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
> if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
> connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
> line from the RemoteRig to my PC.
>
> This symptom appeared after a good period of time when everything worked.
> And all functionality is still there --- just this maddening tick tick tick
> --- like something from Edgar Allan Poe.
>
> All ideas gratefully accepted.
>
> 73 de Brian W3BW
>
> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

It's the K3 Clock - 73 Ken K5DNL

On Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:19 PM, K4ia via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:

USB or serial port polling? Try a different adapter or one that uses an optoisolater

Craig Buck

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Oliver Dröse

Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

I doubt there's a clock in the K3/0 mini ...

73, Olli

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Am 06.10.2014 00:26, schrieb Ken Roberson via Elecraft:

> It's the K3 Clock - 73 Ken K5DNL
>
>
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 5:19 PM, K4ia via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> USB or serial port polling? Try a different adapter or one that uses an optoisolater
>
> Craig Buck
>
>> On Oct 5, 2014, at 5:36 PM, "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> The symptom I am describing persists despite changing routers, internet
>> systems, and cities. In a QSO this morning, the other parties reported a
>> ticking sound on my transmitted signal --- faint but noticeable --- and I
>> could also hear it in XMIT Monitor. I was operating my remote gear as a
>> test --- in the same room as the K3, and on the same LAN.
>>
>> I have now set myself up 110 miles away, and the sound persists. I am able
>> to work others, get good signal reports, but I can hear the tick tick tick,
>> about 2 per second.
>>
>> In testing, I find the sound is there even if I power down the gear --- the
>> radio and the control end. It persists if I remove 12VDC from the K3/0
>> mini. Also if I remove the wifi module from the RemoteRig control box.
>>
>> If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the RR,
>> the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
>> Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
>> if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
>> connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
>> line from the RemoteRig to my PC.
>>
>> This symptom appeared after a good period of time when everything worked.
>> And all functionality is still there --- just this maddening tick tick tick
>> --- like something from Edgar Allan Poe.
>>
>> All ideas gratefully accepted.
>>
>> 73 de Brian W3BW
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Brian F. Wruble-2

Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

In reply to this post by Oliver Dröse

No, mine persists with mike unplugged. The only thing that kills it is unplugging the "TTL" plug on the front of the Remote Rig.

Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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> On Oct 5, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Oliver Dröse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> I have never heard anybody complaining about my signal having a ticking noise. But, when I power down the K3/0 mini I hear it, too, and quite loud. It goes away as soon as I disconnect my mic from the mini! No matter if using the front socket or the 3,5 mm socket. As soon as a mic is plugged in and the mini is turned off there's ticking. Must be something in the mini itself (or the mini in conjunction the the RR controller) as I did not have it when I still had the old PCBs inside (before the swap against the new ones with a display readable when tilted).
>
> Can you confirm the ticking goes away in your setup when you un-plug the mic? That might give Elecraft a hint for trouble shooting.
>
> Tnx & 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
> Contest, DX & radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
>
>
> Am 05.10.2014 23:36, schrieb Brian F. Wruble:
>> Hi All:
>>
>> The symptom I am describing persists despite changing routers, internet
>> systems, and cities. In a QSO this morning, the other parties reported a
>> ticking sound on my transmitted signal --- faint but noticeable --- and I
>> could also hear it in XMIT Monitor. I was operating my remote gear as a
>> test --- in the same room as the K3, and on the same LAN.
>>
>> I have now set myself up 110 miles away, and the sound persists. I am able
>> to work others, get good signal reports, but I can hear the tick tick tick,
>> about 2 per second.
>>
>> In testing, I find the sound is there even if I power down the gear --- the
>> radio and the control end. It persists if I remove 12VDC from the K3/0
>> mini. Also if I remove the wifi module from the RemoteRig control box.
>>
>> If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the RR,
>> the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
>> Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
>> if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
>> connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
>> line from the RemoteRig to my PC.
>>
>> This symptom appeared after a good period of time when everything worked.
>> And all functionality is still there --- just this maddening tick tick tick
>> --- like something from Edgar Allan Poe.
>>
>> All ideas gratefully accepted.
>>
>> 73 de Brian W3BW
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Igor Sokolov-2

Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRigfor remotely controlling K3.

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Exactly. This is computer polling. Put as much ferrite on the USB (serial
port) cable as you can.

73, Igor UA9CDC

----- Original Message -----
From: "K4ia via Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to
RemoteRigfor remotely controlling K3.

> USB or serial port polling? Try a different adapter or one that uses an
> optoisolater
>
> Craig Buck
>
>> On Oct 5, 2014, at 5:36 PM, "Brian F. Wruble" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> The symptom I am describing persists despite changing routers, internet
>> systems, and cities. In a QSO this morning, the other parties reported a
>> ticking sound on my transmitted signal --- faint but noticeable --- and I
>> could also hear it in XMIT Monitor. I was operating my remote gear as a
>> test --- in the same room as the K3, and on the same LAN.
>>
>> I have now set myself up 110 miles away, and the sound persists. I am
>> able
>> to work others, get good signal reports, but I can hear the tick tick
>> tick,
>> about 2 per second.
>>
>> In testing, I find the sound is there even if I power down the gear ---
>> the
>> radio and the control end. It persists if I remove 12VDC from the K3/0
>> mini. Also if I remove the wifi module from the RemoteRig control box.
>>
>> If I remove power from the RemoteRig, it goes away. With power to the
>> RR,
>> the ticking goes away if I unplug the "TTL" line from the K3/0 mini.
>> Unplugging the other lines makes no difference, though it becomes fainter
>> if I unplug "Aux/Mic." It persists if I remove the ethernet cable
>> connecting the RemoteRig to my router. It persists if I unplug the USB
>> line from the RemoteRig to my PC.
>>
>> This symptom appeared after a good period of time when everything worked.
>> And all functionality is still there --- just this maddening tick tick
>> tick
>> --- like something from Edgar Allan Poe.
>>
>> All ideas gratefully accepted.
>>
>> 73 de Brian W3BW
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
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Re: Strange "Ticking" sound with K3/0 Mini to RemoteRig for remotely controlling K3.

I do not have K3/0 remote rig , however I have the ticking sound.
While using homebrew 630 meter transverter and the band noise is low.
I always thought it was the K3 clock. I could be wrong because I was once before.

73 Ken K5DNL / WG2XXM

On Saturday, October 25, 2014 11:02 AM, n6ee <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have same ticking sound in K3/0 Mini EXACTLY as described by Brian - Mic in
or out makes no difference. Only thing that stops it is removing TTL cable.
Puzzling and annoying.

73,
Ron N6EE

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