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Edward R Cole

Subject: Re: Clock chip

I shouldn't comment (but I will):

I don't use the K3 digital clock for logging as I have (too many)
other clocks set up in the shack. When I am doing eme I have JT65
running that tells me accurate time to 10ms from NIST sources via D4
running on the computer. In fact the time is always running under D4
on the computer, so any sw taking time from the computer clock is
likewise accurate.

When I think of it, I update the time using the K3 Utility.

There is much more important sw development for Elecraft to focus on
(in my opinion - which is never humble ;-))

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Rick WA6NHC

Re: Subject: Re: Clock chip

I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of
it. All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated
every 15 minutes by NTP.

Repeating myself: I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky
(repeatable without any user intervention).

I operate remotely. If the power fails, without added hardware (and
software) the K3 will not power on. An alarm can be used for this
function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when
the radio is already on too].

If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the
power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm
time(s). VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to
enter the shack while remote.

Can that be put on the list?

Rick wa6nhc

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Mike Reublin NF4L

Re: Subject: Re: Clock chip

I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that requires time is picked up from the computer.

73, Mike NF4L

> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it. All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 minutes by NTP.
>
> Repeating myself: I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky (repeatable without any user intervention).
>
> I operate remotely. If the power fails, without added hardware (and software) the K3 will not power on. An alarm can be used for this function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is already on too].
>
> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s). VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while remote.
>
> Can that be put on the list?
>
> Rick wa6nhc
>
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Nick Kemp

Re: Subject: Re: Clock chip

An Arduino with a GPS could be programmed to update the clock via the
serial port for those who need perfect time.

Nick
N1KMP

Walter Underwood wrote on 2/15/2015 6:05 PM:

> I rarely carry my computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.
>
> It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can read it and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it could set a drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.
>
> wunder
> Walter Underwood
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>
>
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that requires time is picked up from the computer.
> >
> > 73, Mike NF4L
> >
> >> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it. All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 minutes by NTP.
> >>
> >> Repeating myself: I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky (repeatable without any user intervention).
> >>
> >> I operate remotely. If the power fails, without added hardware (and software) the K3 will not power on. An alarm can be used for this function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is already on too].
> >>
> >> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s). VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while remote.
> >>
> >> Can that be put on the list?
> >>
> >> Rick wa6nhc
> >>
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GM4JJJ

Re: Subject: Re: Clock chip

What is the KX3 command to the time? I could not see it in the Programmers reference, I suppose I could port sniff the serial port when using the KX3 utility to set the time.

I do have an Arduino that is tied to a GPS and is the shack LED clock, it wouldn't be hard to hook it to the KX3 when I wanted to set the clock accurately without using a computer. Just a fun thing to do.

I am fairly lucky my KX3 clock keeps reasonable time, but I am a Time Nut and do like clocks to be accurate.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ

> On 16 Feb 2015, at 00:26, Nick Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> An Arduino with a GPS could be programmed to update the clock via the serial port for those who need perfect time.
>
> Nick
> N1KMP
>
>
> Walter Underwood wrote on 2/15/2015 6:05 PM:
>> I rarely carry my computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.
>>
>> It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can read it and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it could set a drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.
>>
>> wunder
>> Walter Underwood
>> [hidden email]
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>>
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do that requires time is picked up from the computer.
>> >
>> > 73, Mike NF4L
>> >
>> >> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think of it. All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated every 15 minutes by NTP.
>> >>
>> >> Repeating myself: I would like to see the ALARM function made sticky (repeatable without any user intervention).
>> >>
>> >> I operate remotely. If the power fails, without added hardware (and software) the K3 will not power on. An alarm can be used for this function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the radio is already on too].
>> >>
>> >> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when the power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm time(s). VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter the shack while remote.
>> >>
>> >> Can that be put on the list?
>> >>
>> >> Rick wa6nhc
>> >>
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Joshua Gould, K8WXA

Re: Subject: Re: Clock chip

The internal clock in my KX3 (Which I set a week ago when I received my
radio from the UPS man) is off by 9 seconds from the clock in my MacBook
Pro (Which I just checked and it is set to the time coming from time.gov.)
My wrist watch is off by some 30 or so second. Would I like for all of
them to agree on time, yes. is it a deal breaker, no.

If I need to check the time I'll just tune to WWV. As long as the time is
close, that's enough for me.

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3# 7465

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:16 AM, David Anderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What is the KX3 command to the time? I could not see it in the Programmers
> reference, I suppose I could port sniff the serial port when using the KX3
> utility to set the time.
>
> I do have an Arduino that is tied to a GPS and is the shack LED clock, it
> wouldn't be hard to hook it to the KX3 when I wanted to set the clock
> accurately without using a computer. Just a fun thing to do.
>
> I am fairly lucky my KX3 clock keeps reasonable time, but I am a Time Nut
> and do like clocks to be accurate.
>
> 73
>
> David Anderson GM4JJJ
>
> > On 16 Feb 2015, at 00:26, Nick Kemp <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > An Arduino with a GPS could be programmed to update the clock via the
> serial port for those who need perfect time.
> >
> > Nick
> > N1KMP
> >
> >
> > Walter Underwood wrote on 2/15/2015 6:05 PM:
> >> I rarely carry my computer on the trail, but I do carry my KX3.
> >>
> >> It would be nice if the KX3 Utility could trim the clock rate. It can
> read it and set it. If it recorded the last time the clock was set, it
> could set a drift correction, assuming that the clock chip supports that.
> >>
> >> wunder
> >> Walter Underwood
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm still puzzled as to why there's a clock at all. Everything I do
> that requires time is picked up from the computer.
> >> >
> >> > 73, Mike NF4L
> >> >
> >> >> On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Rick WA6NHC <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't care about seeing the clock and also reset it when I think
> of it. All required timely functions are met with the managing PC, updated
> every 15 minutes by NTP.
> >> >>
> >> >> Repeating myself: I would like to see the ALARM function made
> sticky (repeatable without any user intervention).
> >> >>
> >> >> I operate remotely. If the power fails, without added hardware (and
> software) the K3 will not power on. An alarm can be used for this
> function, but only if someone sets it prior to the power failure [when the
> radio is already on too].
> >> >>
> >> >> If the alarm were sticky (and optionally hits once an hour?) when
> the power comes back to the station, the K3 would power on at the alarm
> time(s). VERY useful function, less down time or needing someone to enter
> the shack while remote.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can that be put on the list?
> >> >>
> >> >> Rick wa6nhc
> >> >>
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Nick Kemp

Re: Subject: Re: Clock chip

In reply to this post by GM4JJJ

"What is the KX3 command to the time? " ...I think it is MN073/MP073. I
looked at this briefly a while back but did not pursue farther.

Nick
N1KMP

David Anderson wrote on 2/16/2015 10:16 AM:
> What is the KX3 command to the time? I could not see it in the Programmers reference, I suppose I could port sniff the serial port when using the KX3 utility to set the time.
>
> I do have an Arduino that is tied to a GPS and is the shack LED clock, it wouldn't be hard to hook it to the KX3 when I wanted to set the clock accurately without using a computer. Just a fun thing to do.
>
> I am fairly lucky my KX3 clock keeps reasonable time, but I am a Time Nut and do like clocks to be accurate.
>
> 73
>

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