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Michael Bower
Hi, gang,

We are in the process of downsizing for a future (not scheduled). Can
anyone give me suggestions for prices on the below rigs if I decide to sell
them instead of moving them?  I am the original owner and builder of all
three rigs. I am very careful in building but I have also had these rigs
checked by someone with a LOT more experience than me.

1) 2-band K1 with:

   Internal battery
   Internal antenna tuner
   stand.

2) 2-band KX1 with:

  unbuilt internal antenna tuner.

3) K2 with:

   SSB module
   Internal battery
   Unbuilt antenna tuner.

Thanks in advance.

Michael N4NMR
Ashburn VA
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Re: Suggested prices?

Don Wilhelm
Michael,

It all depends on a lot of things.

My personal "rule of thumb" is that I will pay up to 2/3 of the new
price for a used transceiver.
Since these are assembled kits, a lot has to do with how well it was
built and the level of any upgrades.
For instance on the K2, what is the serial number.  Those below SN 3000
which have not been upgraded with ALL the relevant A to B mod kits and
the IF crystal set upgraded will be worth less than a SN above 3000.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2019 3:09 PM, Michael Bower wrote:

> Hi, gang,
>
> We are in the process of downsizing for a future (not scheduled). Can
> anyone give me suggestions for prices on the below rigs if I decide to sell
> them instead of moving them?  I am the original owner and builder of all
> three rigs. I am very careful in building but I have also had these rigs
> checked by someone with a LOT more experience than me.
>
> 1) 2-band K1 with:
>
>     Internal battery
>     Internal antenna tuner
>     stand.
>
> 2) 2-band KX1 with:
>
>    unbuilt internal antenna tuner.
>
> 3) K2 with:
>
>     SSB module
>     Internal battery
>     Unbuilt antenna tuner.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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k2ud
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The K1 and KX1 are tough ones as they are unobtanium now, you may be surprised what they may bring.

I forgot what I paid for mine, but I wouldn't by shy asking 75% of the original price for the rig and tuner.  Now if you only had the paddle!

72

Howard Kraus, K2UD


---- Michael Bower <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi, gang,
>
> We are in the process of downsizing for a future (not scheduled). Can
> anyone give me suggestions for prices on the below rigs if I decide to sell
> them instead of moving them?  I am the original owner and builder of all
> three rigs. I am very careful in building but I have also had these rigs
> checked by someone with a LOT more experience than me.
>
> 1) 2-band K1 with:
>
>    Internal battery
>    Internal antenna tuner
>    stand.
>
> 2) 2-band KX1 with:
>
>   unbuilt internal antenna tuner.
>
> 3) K2 with:
>
>    SSB module
>    Internal battery
>    Unbuilt antenna tuner.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Michael N4NMR
> Ashburn VA
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Re: Suggested prices?

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Really, it’s whatever the market will bear. If you follow eBay for certain items you will get an idea of what they are going for there.

There are many sites you can just put a price on it with your description and if no one buys at that price you are out nothing. I think QRZ will work that way.

Or so you can just put a minimum price on it on eBay and if no one comes up to that price it doesn’t sell. There are costs to doing this but it does work.

Also if you were keeping the items but want your relatives to have a better way of selling them when the time comes  there are many companies that auction off ham radio equipment for a fee and they will buy the whole shack for one price or piece out things that are of higher value. Just start looking around. I know in some of the ham radio magazines there are estate sellers that advertise regularly and have a good reputation. There is one in Electric Radio Magazine that has been in business for many years. A query to them might even give you a good idea of a value since that is what they do.

In our area our local radio club (cherryland amateur radio club ) will sell items from an estate. We have a few gentlemen that do this and spend a lot of time researching the value of each item, and packaging and shipping it to the seller if necessary. We split it 50-50 with the heirs of the estate, usually the widow.  

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 5:11 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The K1 and KX1 are tough ones as they are unobtanium now, you may be surprised what they may bring.
>
> I forgot what I paid for mine, but I wouldn't by shy asking 75% of the original price for the rig and tuner.  Now if you only had the paddle!
>
> 72
>
> Howard Kraus, K2UD
>
>
> ---- Michael Bower <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi, gang,
>>
>> We are in the process of downsizing for a future (not scheduled). Can
>> anyone give me suggestions for prices on the below rigs if I decide to sell
>> them instead of moving them?  I am the original owner and builder of all
>> three rigs. I am very careful in building but I have also had these rigs
>> checked by someone with a LOT more experience than me.
>>
>> 1) 2-band K1 with:
>>
>>   Internal battery
>>   Internal antenna tuner
>>   stand.
>>
>> 2) 2-band KX1 with:
>>
>>  unbuilt internal antenna tuner.
>>
>> 3) K2 with:
>>
>>   SSB module
>>   Internal battery
>>   Unbuilt antenna tuner.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Michael N4NMR
>> Ashburn VA
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Re: Suggested prices?

Don Wilhelm
David,

While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams will
do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the
expenses incurred to the survivors.

Yes, it is a lot of work, but "hams helping hams" predominates, and as
long as expenses are covered, many hams are willing to give their time
and effort to the family of an SK for no profit.

I trust the ham who has volunteered to evaluate my ham gear at my demise
will not want a 50-50 deal.

However, if there is no personal relationship between the SK's family
and the person or group setting the value and selling the gear is a fair
equation.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/3/2019 5:41 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Really, it’s whatever the market will bear. If you follow eBay for certain items you will get an idea of what they are going for there.
>
> There are many sites you can just put a price on it with your description and if no one buys at that price you are out nothing. I think QRZ will work that way.
>
> Or so you can just put a minimum price on it on eBay and if no one comes up to that price it doesn’t sell. There are costs to doing this but it does work.
>
> Also if you were keeping the items but want your relatives to have a better way of selling them when the time comes  there are many companies that auction off ham radio equipment for a fee and they will buy the whole shack for one price or piece out things that are of higher value. Just start looking around. I know in some of the ham radio magazines there are estate sellers that advertise regularly and have a good reputation. There is one in Electric Radio Magazine that has been in business for many years. A query to them might even give you a good idea of a value since that is what they do.
>
> In our area our local radio club (cherryland amateur radio club ) will sell items from an estate. We have a few gentlemen that do this and spend a lot of time researching the value of each item, and packaging and shipping it to the seller if necessary. We split it 50-50 with the heirs of the estate, usually the widow.
>
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPhone
>
>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 5:11 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The K1 and KX1 are tough ones as they are unobtanium now, you may be surprised what they may bring.
>>
>> I forgot what I paid for mine, but I wouldn't by shy asking 75% of the original price for the rig and tuner.  Now if you only had the paddle!
>>
>> 72
>>
>> Howard Kraus, K2UD
>>
>>
>> ---- Michael Bower <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi, gang,
>>>
>>> We are in the process of downsizing for a future (not scheduled). Can
>>> anyone give me suggestions for prices on the below rigs if I decide to sell
>>> them instead of moving them?  I am the original owner and builder of all
>>> three rigs. I am very careful in building but I have also had these rigs
>>> checked by someone with a LOT more experience than me.
>>>
>>> 1) 2-band K1 with:
>>>
>>>    Internal battery
>>>    Internal antenna tuner
>>>    stand.
>>>
>>> 2) 2-band KX1 with:
>>>
>>>   unbuilt internal antenna tuner.
>>>
>>> 3) K2 with:
>>>
>>>    SSB module
>>>    Internal battery
>>>    Unbuilt antenna tuner.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Michael N4NMR
>>> Ashburn VA
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K9MA
On 1/3/2019 18:25, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams
> will do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the
> expenses incurred to the survivors.
>
> Yes, it is a lot of work, but "hams helping hams" predominates, and as
> long as expenses are covered, many hams are willing to give their time
> and effort to the family of an SK for no profit.

I've been doing just that lately for the widow of a SK friend. It's a
lot of work, but it's what we do. He would have done the same for me.

73,

Scott K9MA

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I am sure he would have. No doubt whatsoever.

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On 1/3/2019 18:25, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams
> will do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the
> expenses incurred to the survivors.
>
> Yes, it is a lot of work, but "hams helping hams" predominates, and as
> long as expenses are covered, many hams are willing to give their time
> and effort to the family of an SK for no profit.

I've been doing just that lately for the widow of a SK friend. It's a
lot of work, but it's what we do. He would have done the same for me.

73,

Scott K9MA

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On 1/3/2019 4:25 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams
> will do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the
> expenses incurred to the survivors.

When I helped a neighbor ham's widow dispose of his stuff about ten
years ago, she got EVERYTHING except what I had to pay for shipping. I
did all the packing. Buyers picked up the antennas and power amps. I
bought all of the hard line. Ditto for a few years ago when a neighbor
ham moved out of his house and moved onto a sailboat! In fact, with the
widow, I categorized his huge junkbox, coax, hardline, and antennas. I
coordinated more than dozen or so of his friends to take down his
antennas and his towers. At least three guys did the climbing, with lots
of help on the ground. And when we had sold as much as we could, several
of us helped her drag what was left to several ham swap meets.

I took a bunch of the stuff I wanted, and paid her what anyone else
would have paid for it.

This is the ham radio that I grew up in, and I hope my XYL be treated
that way too.

73, Jim K9YC


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Dave wo2x
Jim

I am sure the widows of the hams you helped appreciate the effort.  Great job!

Dave wo2x

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> On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 1/3/2019 4:25 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams will do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the expenses incurred to the survivors.
>
> When I helped a neighbor ham's widow dispose of his stuff about ten years ago, she got EVERYTHING except what I had to pay for shipping. I did all the packing. Buyers picked up the antennas and power amps. I bought all of the hard line. Ditto for a few years ago when a neighbor ham moved out of his house and moved onto a sailboat! In fact, with the widow, I categorized his huge junkbox, coax, hardline, and antennas. I coordinated more than dozen or so of his friends to take down his antennas and his towers. At least three guys did the climbing, with lots of help on the ground. And when we had sold as much as we could, several of us helped her drag what was left to several ham swap meets.
>
> I took a bunch of the stuff I wanted, and paid her what anyone else would have paid for it.
>
> This is the ham radio that I grew up in, and I hope my XYL be treated that way too.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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I think I should have NOT mentioned the 50:50 sale agreement out club had
with a recent widow, but I thought it had bearing on the method of
disposing a deceased hams equipment.  I listed it as one of the options so
the ham in question could recommend to his heirs the ways to dispose of his
equipment.

The facts are that hams widow wanted the club to have ALL the proceeds from
the sale.  She just wanted the stuff out of the house.  The person in
charge talked her into accepting 50% and the club did subtract the shipping
costs from the club's profit.  Have you ever shipped an Alpha amp across
the company..... our group had UPS do it and they did the packing too, thus
having a guarantee and insurance on the amp.  In the past our club had a
few men who took on small estate sales for nothing and one of my friends
used to charge 15%.  He felt that covered hauling it to many swaps across
Michigan until the goods were finally sold.  We are not selfish or mean
spirited in situations like this.     These were the facts as told to me.
The most recent ones in my memory were donations to the club of a single
rig and that was the wish of the decedent himself.  We are still using
those rigs in our club station and field day.

Dave K8WPE

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On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 8:42 PM Dave <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jim
>
> I am sure the widows of the hams you helped appreciate the effort.  Great
> job!
>
> Dave wo2x
>
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.
>
> > On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/3/2019 4:25 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >> While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams
> will do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the
> expenses incurred to the survivors.
> >
> > When I helped a neighbor ham's widow dispose of his stuff about ten
> years ago, she got EVERYTHING except what I had to pay for shipping. I did
> all the packing. Buyers picked up the antennas and power amps. I bought all
> of the hard line. Ditto for a few years ago when a neighbor ham moved out
> of his house and moved onto a sailboat! In fact, with the widow, I
> categorized his huge junkbox, coax, hardline, and antennas. I coordinated
> more than dozen or so of his friends to take down his antennas and his
> towers. At least three guys did the climbing, with lots of help on the
> ground. And when we had sold as much as we could, several of us helped her
> drag what was left to several ham swap meets.
> >
> > I took a bunch of the stuff I wanted, and paid her what anyone else
> would have paid for it.
> >
> > This is the ham radio that I grew up in, and I hope my XYL be treated
> that way too.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> >
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K9MA
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About 15 years ago I was standing on a roof with my now SK friend
helping take down an antenna for an elderly ham, now surely a SK, and I
said to him, "Don, there won't be any young hams around when our time
comes!"

I just hope there's someone left to help MY widow!


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/3/2019 19:40, Dave wrote:

> Jim
>
> I am sure the widows of the hams you helped appreciate the effort.  Great job!
>
> Dave wo2x
>
> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.
>
>> On Jan 3, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/3/2019 4:25 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> While you quote a 50-50 split with the estate, most individual hams will do that for a greater share to the survivors - giving all but the expenses incurred to the survivors.
>> When I helped a neighbor ham's widow dispose of his stuff about ten years ago, she got EVERYTHING except what I had to pay for shipping. I did all the packing. Buyers picked up the antennas and power amps. I bought all of the hard line. Ditto for a few years ago when a neighbor ham moved out of his house and moved onto a sailboat! In fact, with the widow, I categorized his huge junkbox, coax, hardline, and antennas. I coordinated more than dozen or so of his friends to take down his antennas and his towers. At least three guys did the climbing, with lots of help on the ground. And when we had sold as much as we could, several of us helped her drag what was left to several ham swap meets.
>>
>> I took a bunch of the stuff I wanted, and paid her what anyone else would have paid for it.
>>
>> This is the ham radio that I grew up in, and I hope my XYL be treated that way too.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>
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Re: Suggested prices?

Bill Frantz
In reply to this post by Jim Brown-10
A widow approached our club wanting help in disposing of her SK
husband's Collins and Drake equipment. I said I would test them
to see how well they worked. I brought them up using a Variac
and tried them into dummy loads and on the air. She handled the
sales via ebay etc.

Believe me, the chance to play with that equipment was more than
enough compensation. She insisted I take some of the pieces, so
I have a Schurr paddle connected to my K3 and a Collins phone
patch waiting to be connected.

I'm happy and would do it again. I think she is happy too.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/3/19 at 5:17 PM, [hidden email] (Jim Brown) wrote:

>When I helped a neighbor ham's widow dispose of his stuff about
>ten years ago, she got EVERYTHING except what I had to pay for
>shipping. I did all the packing. Buyers picked up the antennas
>and power amps. I bought all of the hard line. Ditto for a few
>years ago when a neighbor ham moved out of his house and moved
>onto a sailboat! In fact, with the widow, I categorized his
>huge junkbox, coax, hardline, and antennas. I coordinated more
>than dozen or so of his friends to take down his antennas and
>his towers. At least three guys did the climbing, with lots of
>help on the ground. And when we had sold as much as we could,
>several of us helped her drag what was left to several ham swap meets.
>
>I took a bunch of the stuff I wanted, and paid her what anyone
>else would have paid for it.
>
>This is the ham radio that I grew up in, and I hope my XYL be treated that way too.
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Re: Suggested prices?

Neil Zampella
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Michael,

If I were still living in Ashburn, I'd be down to your house with a
check for around $800.00 in about a half hour for the K2.  New it costs
about $1,000.00, the tuner an additional $220.   You didn't give the
Serial Number of the rig and I'm guessing its a KAT2 tuner?

As someone else said, a K1 and KX1 may bring close to original pricing
or more.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 1/3/2019 3:09 PM, Michael Bower wrote:

> Hi, gang,
>
> We are in the process of downsizing for a future (not scheduled). Can
> anyone give me suggestions for prices on the below rigs if I decide to sell
> them instead of moving them?  I am the original owner and builder of all
> three rigs. I am very careful in building but I have also had these rigs
> checked by someone with a LOT more experience than me.
>
> 1) 2-band K1 with:
>
>     Internal battery
>     Internal antenna tuner
>     stand.
>
> 2) 2-band KX1 with:
>
>    unbuilt internal antenna tuner.
>
> 3) K2 with:
>
>     SSB module
>     Internal battery
>     Unbuilt antenna tuner.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Michael N4NMR
> Ashburn VA
>

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