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T1 at 35W?

Kurt Loken
Hello All,

So I am getting a little 35W amp for the Softrock 6.2 I have on order.  

Will I have problems if I use my 20W T1 at 35W?  I plan to do CW, SSB, and digitial modes.

Anyone else tempting the fates on the T1?

Thanks,

Kurt - ae6uj


       
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Re: T1 at 35W?

Don Wilhelm-3
Kurt,

The real answer is that it all depends on the RF voltage maximum that
the T1 will see - and that depends on the band, your antenna and the
feedline.  There can be no positive or negative answers unless all the
parameters are known - Antenna impedance at each operating frequency and
length and type of feedline at are critical to how much RF voltage the
T1 must handle.  What will work for one set of conditions may not work
for another.

I doubt that the T1 will handle 35 watts in the general case (that is
why it is rated for 20 watts) - you may be able to use it at 35 watts
under carefully controlled conditions, but if one must go to all that
trouble, why not just switch to resonant antennas with a 50 ohm feedline
and no tuner required?

73,
Don W3FPR

Kurt Loken wrote:
> Hello All,
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> So I am getting a little 35W amp for the Softrock 6.2 I have on order.  
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> Will I have problems if I use my 20W T1 at 35W?  I plan to do CW, SSB, and digitial modes.
>
> Anyone else tempting the fates on the T1?
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Re: T1 at 35W?

Sandy W5TVW
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I just got a T1 a few days ago.  Tried it at 35 watts (an HF Packer
amplifier) and so far no ill results.  This is driving the amp. with a K1 at
about 2 watts on CW only.  The T1 has far greater range than the KAT1
internal coupler.

73,

Sandy W5TVW
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> Hello All,
>
> So I am getting a little 35W amp for the Softrock 6.2 I have on order.
>
> Will I have problems if I use my 20W T1 at 35W?  I plan to do CW, SSB, and
> digitial modes.
>
> Anyone else tempting the fates on the T1?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kurt - ae6uj
>
>
>
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RE: T1 at 35W?

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
I just got a T1 a few days ago.  Tried it at 35 watts (an HF Packer
amplifier) and so far no ill results.  This is driving the amp. with a K1 at

about 2 watts on CW only.  The T1 has far greater range than the KAT1
internal coupler.

73,

Sandy W5TVW

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The reason the bridge circuit in there has a double-stacked toroid on one
side was that Tom, N0SS, tried something like 40 watts into his original
beta-test unit and it worked except for that core getting hot enough to
blister a finger. Two cores help avoid saturation at all power levels.

So, if you're pushing the power limit, checking the temperature to the
bridge circuit toroids (near the connectors - the ones with a single turn
wire primary) will tell you if the smoke is about to escape <G>. Obviously
the danger is in overheating and fracturing a core.

That can happen among the other cores too, depending upon the impedance the
antenna presents. If it's showing a low impedance (current loop), enough
current may flow to saturate a core in the L-network. The symptom of that
happening is that the tuner will find a nice match at low power then, as the
power is increased, the SWR jumps up high when the current increases enough
to saturate the core (or the core heats enough to reach its curie
temperature). That causes the inductance of that coil to change, throwing
the system out of tune.

Of course, over time, one might also experience damaged relay contacts from
excessive current when feeding low impedances or arcing due to high RF
voltages when feeding high impedances. Since that all depends upon the
impedance the antenna presents and the actual RF power, individual
experiences will vary a great deal.

As usual, Elecraft is pretty conservative in their ratings, but that's done
for a reason. At 20 watts, any impedance the T1 will match won't do any
damage to the tuner no matter how long it's used.  

Ron AC7AC


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