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Georges Ringotte F6DFZ

TR : Down or Up conversions designs

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Objet : Re: [Elecraft] Down or Up conversions designs
De : Georges Ringotte F6DFZ <[hidden email]>
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Hi Alan,

Happy to meet the Elecraft firmware guru!

Many thanks for your fine comments.
I perfectly understand the Elecraft policy, I don't critic it
In fact, from the beginning with the K2, it's very coherent.
What I don't agree with is using the down conversion hip to market transceivers very expensive like the new Yaesu FT3K, and seeing people on its reflector waiting for it like a miracle.

Thanks again and best regards!

Georges

Georges Ringotte F6DFZ
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180, rue du Château
07120 Saint Alban - Auriolles
France
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N0AZZ

Re: TR : Down or Up conversions designs

George

I have all 3 of the radios you speak of or I should 4 now sold the TS-590s after 2 weeks. All of these radios even the 5000 and the 3000/K3/K2 can do some things better than the others it's just a fact. I had the second FTDX-5000MP deleivered in the US a 5 mo pre-order for it before release. There are features it has that are superior to the K3 and in my opnion should be a standard for all high end radios a fact. Another fact the 5000 has better receive on the high bands, whereas the K3 excels on the low ones JMHO there.

I could go on but I see that I can ad nothing new as I have sold my FTDX-5000MP last week and kept my 2 K3's in a SO2R setup "Downsized" somewhat. I am hoping that Wayne, Eric and the group can find a little better receive on the high bands but I'm getting by for now. The TFDX-3000 comes in at a price point where it's very close to a K3 in cost for the same features and the published numbers aren't looking all that bad either.

There are no perfect radios nor will there ever be I guess in my life time.

One thing I really miss from the Yaesu line is the keypad for the voice keyer an option I wish would that Elecraft would have for the K3. Much easier than using the pad on the radio distracting in a contest or for timing in a pileup.

&3,
Fred/N0AZZ

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From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Georges Ringotte F6DFZ
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:45 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] TR : Down or Up conversions designs

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Objet : Re: [Elecraft] Down or Up conversions designs De : Georges Ringotte F6DFZ <[hidden email]> À : [hidden email] Cc :

Hi Alan,

Happy to meet the Elecraft firmware guru!

Many thanks for your fine comments.
I perfectly understand the Elecraft policy, I don't critic it In fact, from the beginning with the K2, it's very coherent.
What I don't agree with is using the down conversion hip to market transceivers very expensive like the new Yaesu FT3K, and seeing people on its reflector waiting for it like a miracle.

Thanks again and best regards!

Georges

Georges Ringotte F6DFZ
Colonel de Sapeurs - Pompiers (er)
180, rue du Château
07120 Saint Alban - Auriolles
France
06.12.51.88.15
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Bill W4ZV

Re: TR : Down or Up conversions designs

Fred Smith wrote

One thing I really miss from the Yaesu line is the keypad for the voice keyer an option I wish would that Elecraft would have for the K3. Much easier than using the pad on the radio distracting in a contest or for timing in a pileup.

With CQ WW SSB approaching, perhaps you and others may be interested in using N1MM to control the K3DVR. Iain N6ML has written instructions for this on this page:

http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3

This is extremely useful in contests and allows you to use the normal F-keys to send voice messages, just like on CW. I imagine with a little work that Iain's approach could be adapted other loggers besides N1MM. This eliminates the need to press the K3 buttons and I prefer the simplicity of using the K3DVR versus hassling with computer soundcards.

73, Bill W4ZV

Win Kriegl DK9IP/KH7CD

Re: TR : Down or Up conversions designs

Hi,

Bob, N6TV has written LUA script "Plug-ins" to control the K3 DVK (and other functions)
via the F-keys from within Win-Test contest logging software. There are some other scripts
for use with YAESU transceivers and Microham devices as well.

http://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/wtscripts/Readme.txt
http://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/wtscripts/

73, Win DK9IP

schrieb Bill W4ZV:

> Fred Smith wrote
>> One thing I really miss from the Yaesu line is the keypad for the voice
>> keyer an option I wish would that Elecraft would have for the K3. Much
>> easier than using the pad on the radio distracting in a contest or for
>> timing in a pileup.
>
> With CQ WW SSB approaching, perhaps you and others may be interested in
> using N1MM to control the K3DVR. Iain N6ML has written instructions for
> this on this page:
>
> http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3
>
> This is extremely useful in contests and allows you to use the normal F-keys
> to send voice messages, just like on CW. I imagine with a little work that
> Iain's approach could be adapted other loggers besides N1MM. This
> eliminates the need to press the K3 buttons and I prefer the simplicity of
> using the K3DVR versus hassling with computer soundcards.
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
>
>
>
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N0AZZ

Re: TR : Down or Up conversions designs

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Bill

I will have a look at that I do run N1MM and WriteLOG for different contests
thanks. I also don't care for the computer sound cards, the FTDX-5000 came
with a keypad a switch for them usually an add-on in there line.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TR : Down or Up conversions designs

Fred Smith wrote
> One thing I really miss from the Yaesu line is the keypad for the
> voice keyer an option I wish would that Elecraft would have for the
> K3. Much easier than using the pad on the radio distracting in a
> contest or for timing in a pileup.

With CQ WW SSB approaching, perhaps you and others may be interested in
using N1MM to control the K3DVR. Iain N6ML has written instructions for
this on this page:

http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3

This is extremely useful in contests and allows you to use the normal F-keys
to send voice messages, just like on CW. I imagine with a little work that
Iain's approach could be adapted other loggers besides N1MM. This
eliminates the need to press the K3 buttons and I prefer the simplicity of
using the K3DVR versus hassling with computer soundcards.

73, Bill W4ZV

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N0AZZ

Re: TR : Down or Up conversions designs

In reply to this post by Win Kriegl DK9IP/KH7CD

Hi Win

This just keeps getting better I run microHAM u2R & microKEYER II thanks a
lot for the links. Just another reason I kept my Elecraft radios this board
and factory support!

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TR : Down or Up conversions designs

Hi,

Bob, N6TV has written LUA script "Plug-ins" to control the K3 DVK (and other
functions) via the F-keys from within Win-Test contest logging software.
There are some other scripts for use with YAESU transceivers and Microham
devices as well.

http://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/wtscripts/Readme.txt
http://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/wtscripts/

73, Win DK9IP

schrieb Bill W4ZV:

> Fred Smith wrote
>> One thing I really miss from the Yaesu line is the keypad for the
>> voice keyer an option I wish would that Elecraft would have for the
>> K3. Much easier than using the pad on the radio distracting in a
>> contest or for timing in a pileup.
>
> With CQ WW SSB approaching, perhaps you and others may be interested
> in using N1MM to control the K3DVR. Iain N6ML has written
> instructions for this on this page:
>
> http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3
>
> This is extremely useful in contests and allows you to use the normal
> F-keys to send voice messages, just like on CW. I imagine with a
> little work that Iain's approach could be adapted other loggers
> besides N1MM. This eliminates the need to press the K3 buttons and I
> prefer the simplicity of using the K3DVR versus hassling with computer

soundcards.

>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>
>
>
>
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Alan Bloom

Re: TR : Down or Up conversions designs

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On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 09:44 +0200, Georges Ringotte F6DFZ wrote:

> Happy to meet the Elecraft firmware guru!

Actually Wayne is the firmware guru, for the K3 at least. And Lyle for
the DSP. I did the firmware for the P3. Interesting that we three all
live in different places, none of which is Aptos or Watsonville. :=)
The magic of the Internet allows engineering collaboration anywhere in
the world.

Alan N1AL

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