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https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

I've brought my KX2 with internal battery numerous times within CONUS. not sure if Hawaii is any different. Don't have batteries for my KX3, but I did travel to Europe several times as carry on in pelican case without incident.

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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[Nicklas Johnson]

The only trouble I had was TSA in Hawaii confiscating my cheap wire
strippers, because they have a rule against tools greater than 8 inches in
length.  Because of course that's how terrorists are going to hijack a
plane-- with a pair of Home Depot wire strippers.  Funnily enough, TSA at
SFO on the way out didn't notice or care.  I had my Buddistick in my
checked luggage.

You definitely want anything with batteries in your carry-on, but you knew
that.

I brought along a photocopy of my license in my carry-on just in case I
needed it, but I didn't.

   Nick

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[Michael Murphy]

I traveled to St. Lucia with my KX3, matching amplifier and power supply. The only thing TSA was interested in was my bencher paddle.

I had a copy of my license in my carrying case, just in case they were interested. They were not.

Mike - KI8R

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> https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf
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> I've brought my KX2 with internal battery numerous times within CONUS. not sure if Hawaii is any different. Don't have batteries for my KX3, but I did travel to Europe several times as carry on in pelican case without incident.
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Dear OMs and YLs,
     I have travelled across Europe and from USA to Europe with a KX2 and
had no problems - no one commented except the TSA man in JFK seemed to have
been an SWL and commented on how small they were making radios these days.
Surprisingly they did not want me to turn the radio on though I did have it
out of the carryon and on display.   Go for it and do not worry.  

     Take the battery in the radio and remove them when you get to KH6 a
charge only takes two hours so there is no big deal in this; a big advantage
over my KX3.  I had a second batter stored in the LowPro carry case and this
caused no concern - I would have given them the battery if it was a problem.
Enjoy your trip.

                         73 Doug EI2CN

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https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/h
azmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

I've brought my KX2 with internal battery numerous times within CONUS. not
sure if Hawaii is any different. Don't have batteries for my KX3, but I did
travel to Europe several times as carry on in pelican case without incident.

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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[Buck]

I took a KX3, coax and coil of wire in carryon through Reagan to JFK and to
Israel on El AL.  That is the toughest security route in the world.  No one
said a thing or asked about it.  Brought it back in checked and Xrayed
luggage.  Again not a peep.

I was prepared with a copy of an ad showing what it was but never had to
show it.

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> Taking KX3 on Airlines -Any issues/hassles with TSA/etc  here days - with
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Mike,

I've flown with the Bioenno Power 12Ah LiFePO4 batteries several times,
carrying two at a time in my carry-on baggage.  I've flown mostly in and out
of Japan (Narita and Naha, Okinawa) with them.  I usually end up having to
pull the batteries out so that I can show them that they're under the
appropriate limit.  Once I've done that, it has been smooth sailing from
there.  My main fear is that screeners won't know what the exact limit is.
While I've never gone this far, you could try printing out the regulations
for your particular airline or country and carrying them with you as a
reference to show screeners if they have questions.

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/h
azmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

I've heard some countries, like Hong Kong, might want to charge you an
import tax for whatever radio gear you're bringing in.  And then an export
tax when you leave.  (Which is why I never paid for the Hong Kong license
when I visited there!)  You might want to ask this question if you're
applying for a reciprocal license in a foreign country.

Hope this helps, and happy travels.

73!

-Brad Butler
W6BJB/JS6TQS

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I've carried my FT897 on many airplanes with zero issues. I just carry it be the handle.

I doubt you'll have any issues with your KX3.   Just pull the batteries.

Mike va3mw

> On May 15, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Brad J. Butler via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Mike,
>
> I've flown with the Bioenno Power 12Ah LiFePO4 batteries several times,
> carrying two at a time in my carry-on baggage.  I've flown mostly in and out
> of Japan (Narita and Naha, Okinawa) with them.  I usually end up having to
> pull the batteries out so that I can show them that they're under the
> appropriate limit.  Once I've done that, it has been smooth sailing from
> there.  My main fear is that screeners won't know what the exact limit is.
> While I've never gone this far, you could try printing out the regulations
> for your particular airline or country and carrying them with you as a
> reference to show screeners if they have questions.
>
> https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/h
> azmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf
>
> I've heard some countries, like Hong Kong, might want to charge you an
> import tax for whatever radio gear you're bringing in.  And then an export
> tax when you leave.  (Which is why I never paid for the Hong Kong license
> when I visited there!)  You might want to ask this question if you're
> applying for a reciprocal license in a foreign country.
>
> Hope this helps, and happy travels.
>
> 73!
>
> -Brad Butler
> W6BJB/JS6TQS
>
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> Taking KX3 on Airlines -Any issues/hassles with TSA/etc  here days - with
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>
>
> USA to Hawaii
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Refer to this for US carriers:

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

tl;dr: Li+ packs need to be 100 WHr or less.   Larger is up to the
airline.  Li+ batteries *in* equipment is fine for carry on or checked
luggage.   Spare Li+ batteries can *only* be carried on, up to two, at the
discretion of the airline.


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